Posted by
CmdrTaco
on Sat May 24, 2008 11:33 AM from the well-now-isn't-that-nice dept.
Jamie stumbled upon a very choice video this morning called I Will Derive. To the tune of some song you've never heard before, singing about subjects you know nothing about... oh and a a TI-84 cameo. It features the dopiest dancing you'll see on YouTube today. I promise.
I love slashdot, been here for years, and defend it often against the 'slashdot sucks' trolls, but this is ricackulous. Please oh please slashdot powers-that-be, reconsider your decision to put idle stories on the frontpage.
Netcraft doesn't track site popularity AFAIK, but Alexa does. And alexa does in fact confirm: slashdot [alexa.com] is [alexa.com] dying [alexa.com].
I mean, what the fuck guys? This is such an awesome website. I know that stupid videos get a lot of click throughs in the short term, but you're driving away your regulars with that silly shit. News, fellas, post news.
Thanks to you and the GP for the inspiration:) And this is just to get rid of the "too few characters per line" complaint from the filter.
First I thought "Oh fuck, this is travesty". The Slashlords fin'ly lost their touch, this really cannot be. But the idle section stayed, and while I cried out "This is wrong", the trolls grew strong. And even Taco plays along! Yes, they are back from all the chans. They took the training for the flaming and are here to grab their chance. Oh, do you think you have seen bad, well then you're in for a surprise. Cause on the one hand there is fluff but now get ready for demise!
Go Taco go, give junk the floor. Ignore your readers. Nerds don't matter anymore. This idle style is hot, we are taking over Fark. Yet still I wonder... Did Slashdot really jump the shark? Don't link YouTube, just post a dupe! About cold fusion with hot grits greased by Piquepaille's lube. Even Katz stories are fine Even goatse seems divine when idle's stage is the frontpage.
While this may sound like I'm new, my ID confides that while I could not pay for lower ones I've seen the tides. It seems the terrorists have won. Breakouts of common sense are gone. I used to mod. Now I'm just one more old sod. And I say now, get off my lawn! I hope that in Korea's shelters I can still respawn. And you can stick your idle site, its sorry style like soylent green. I'd rather pony up for pink and I bet so does your Kathleen...
Go Taco go, give junk the floor....
(alternate part for "Yes, they are back...":
Slashdot cries out, The movie blares. Oh yes, on weekends they'll submit it till the firehose declares that the frontpage is their scene, the idle section is their heir, and if you don't vote for those films we've still got Jamie over there... )
So far, we're still unable to automatically filter the Idle section out of our front pages./.: Either let me blacklist the Idle section via my user preferences, or remove this shit, seriously
Well, this is what happens when you let the proletariat control the media. No I'm not a communist, I'm trying to be ironic while using a form of satire to criticize the shortcomings of the firehose. Yes I used "ironic" "criticize" and "satire" in the same sentence.
I know I could browse utube and all the other similar sites for interesting videos if I wanted, but I don't have time to look for stuff I may find amusing amongst all the other crap.
This is not that different from news. I could read all the news sites that are feature on slashdot, but I don't have time to so I quite like someone else picking stuff thats vaguely geek related and putting it in one place.
I always see some stuff on slashdot I am not interested in. My solution is simple: I don't click on the read more link and skip to the next article. Its not like there are so many stories on slashdot that you cant see all the previews easily yet and there is no need to read every single thing thats gets posted to the front page even if the summary indicates you won't like it.
In this case what were you all expecting when you clicked on a summary which told you that it linked to a utube video featuring maths and crap dancing?
I loved the video! What a coincidence - just spent the last couple of days with similar problems, trying to develop a curve for an audio compression algorithm. I began with logarithmic curves, but in the end, chose quadratic curves in place of the logarithmic curves because they provide a very smooth transition from linear slope to curved. Though the logarithmic curves did as well provide a nice smooth curve, they had an abrupt transition at the point where that curve joined the linear slope. In the end,
You can't hide from it, and that's OK. It's not so bad guys. You may be disgusted now, but if the past decade has taught us anything it's that people can tolerate a lot of shit before it actually motivates them to action.
In St. Louis, it took a 100% increase in gas prices to motivate people actually start carpooling, up ~30% recently. Every dime increase instigated vocal outrage, but little to no action. But when it starts eating into our beer budgets, then we call Ride-Finders.
Slashdot has jumped the shark about 30 times now, and we still read it, we still participate. Heck, this is the first post I've been motivated to comment on in quite some time.
All you youtube player haters best just chill. If you hate it so bad, it's a relatively free internet for the time being (legislation pending). Go start your own slashcode site with zero youtubes. We'll be right behind you in the other car. No seriously. We're not going to ditch you, honest.
Well, Slashdot, I am ok with seeing this on the front page, because it is so nerdy that it makes up for being irrelevant. I mean, Ask Slashdot isn't news, but its ok to have occasionally on the main page. As a regular reader of Fark, I know that most of what passes for "news" isn't. So to the haters: Relax. Simmer down a bit. Some of us enjoy a little nerdy goofiness.
I know it has been said many times, but this is what makes slashdot great - the moderation system! When I first saw this video, I laughed. I enjoyed it. I thought it was funny and was glad that Slashdot had linked to it.
Then I read the comments and realized that the video wasn't funny or appropriate, and was in fact a harbinger of the Apocalypse. I shouldn't be smiling and happy - I should be ranting and outraged. I should be writing my elected officials and forming citizens action committees.
How dare slashdot trick people into a watching a silly youtube video buy disguising it as a story about a silly youtube video. Don't the slashdot editors realize that there is only a limited amount of webspace space on the internet, and they shouldn't be wasting it on stuff like this?
I am so glad I have seen the error of my ways. Now I just need to know where I can get one of these giant sticks to ram up my pigu, so I too can be a diligent defender of Slashdot integrity.
For those who don't know, Idle has been around for a few months now, though I know of no official announcement. This tells me that Slashdot is trying to throw it in under the radar, for whatever reason.
Please, Slashdot, drop this. This isn't Fark, this isn't Digg, this isn't StumbleUpon. While I don't hate those sites, this kind of stuff belongs there. Slashdot is about "hard" news (with an editorial bias) and science/tech industry, not "LOL THATS FUNNAYE". Not to say we can't have humor, but it should be the tongue-in-cheek or irony kind.
One good thing Idle does have-- the comment bar. Compared to the comment bar on regular Slashdot entries, this is light years ahead. It's much smoother, it doesn't take up a large amount of space on the left side (making some comments look longer than they really are), and overall is just cleaner.
Take that, go back o the old "Reply to This|Parent" stripe (instead of those unnecessarily large buttons), and you'll be doing Slashdot a great service.
But drop Idle first. Seriously, it's completely worthless. I'm really glad I'm not paying for this shit.
I love slashdot. I was a teen when I found it, and to this day I've told countless number of people that I've learned more from slashdot and its community than from all my 6 years and 2 so-called prestigious academic degrees combined.
I am hugely in debt to you for creating slashdot.
I understand the motivation behind this post, but thinking of the longer term, I'm sure you realise that this really will put a dent in./'s readership. We are not here to watch youtube videos. Slashdot is not, and should not bring itself down to the level of any jackass blog out there. After all, you existed long before the word 'blog' was conceived.
PLEASE do not ruin slashdot. Keep idle out of front page, and make it an opt-in option for anyone who wants to view it on their front page.
I trust you will act according to your instincts and convince your overlords to heed this advice.
Im not against little comedic stuff like this, or the Idle section itself, it was actually a good idea. But I think that the front page (or any of the main 'news' sections) should be for tech/science/economy/etc "stuff that matters"
This is rightly in the Idle section, and if you were just looking for something to pass a few minutes and maybe a giggle or two... "choose" to go to the Idle section... just like you would choose to wander around YouTube by itself without having Slashdot.
Weekend or not, I think most people expect Slashdot to provide informative "nerdy" things with a certain amount of dignity.
Wow... where the hell was this vitriol when I was one of the few who were crying out against the slashvertisements about Iron Man, Speed Racer, and whatever the fuck peripheral they tried to say roXzoR'd.
It's the same shit, so why does mindless news incite anger and "sheeple" references when being sold to doesn't?
It's the same shit, so why does mindless news incite anger and "sheeple" references when being sold to doesn't?
Well if there's one thing that's been constant about slashdot over the years, it's that people love to whine about the stories. They still read them and comment of course.
P.S. To SlashDot: if I want to Idle my time away I'll browse Fark thankyouverymuch, please for the love of his noodly appendage, keep the idle.slashdot posts off the front page.
I think the problem is that due to the way slashdot operates - and I think it is a good choice - stuff like this will already have been old news on at least 3 extremely high traffic sites before it shows up here. People don't want to come here and get the exact same stuff they've already seen at fark, reddit, digg, etc. An exception might be those topics that have some intrinsic value. Because I think one way slashdot sets itself apart (and I'll get torn up over this but I still think it is true.) is in the quality of the comments.
Or at the very least, as has already been mentioned a few times, they should make it possible to filter idle, like everything else.
The reaction does seem a bit strong, but I think it is a cumulative thing - and this post just produced a watershed of responses.
Slashdot linking to Youtube Videos (Score:5, Insightful)
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In breaking news... (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:In breaking news... (Score:5, Insightful)
Tubedot?
Growingincreasinglyirrelevant.org?
I love slashdot, been here for years, and defend it often against the 'slashdot sucks' trolls, but this is ricackulous. Please oh please slashdot powers-that-be, reconsider your decision to put idle stories on the frontpage.
Please (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Please (Score:4, Funny)
Right Idea, wrong website (Score:4, Informative)
I mean, what the fuck guys? This is such an awesome website. I know that stupid videos get a lot of click throughs in the short term, but you're driving away your regulars with that silly shit. News, fellas, post news.
Fuck you, Slashdot. (Score:4, Insightful)
Totally agree. (Score:2)
Don't get angry, get even (Score:5, Funny)
First I thought "Oh fuck,
this is travesty".
The Slashlords fin'ly lost their touch,
this really cannot be.
But the idle section stayed,
and while I cried out "This is wrong",
the trolls grew strong.
And even Taco plays along!
Yes, they are back
from all the chans.
They took the training for the flaming
and are here to grab their chance.
Oh, do you think you have seen bad,
well then you're in for a surprise.
Cause on the one hand there is fluff
but now get ready for demise!
Go Taco go, give junk the floor.
Ignore your readers.
Nerds don't matter anymore.
This idle style is hot, we are taking over Fark.
Yet still I wonder...
Did Slashdot really jump the shark?
Don't link YouTube,
just post a dupe!
About cold fusion with hot grits
greased by Piquepaille's lube.
Even Katz stories are fine
Even goatse seems divine
when idle's stage
is the frontpage.
While this may sound like I'm new,
my ID confides
that while I could not pay
for lower ones I've seen the tides.
It seems the terrorists have won.
Breakouts of common sense are gone.
I used to mod.
Now I'm just one more old sod.
And I say now,
get off my lawn!
I hope that in Korea's shelters
I can still respawn.
And you can stick your idle site,
its sorry style like soylent green.
I'd rather pony up for pink
and I bet so does your Kathleen...
Go Taco go, give junk the floor.
(alternate part for "Yes, they are back...":
Slashdot cries out,
The movie blares.
Oh yes, on weekends they'll submit
it till the firehose declares
that the frontpage is their scene,
the idle section is their heir,
and if you don't vote for those films
we've still got Jamie over there...
)
Re:Fuck you, Slashdot. (Score:5, Insightful)
So far, we're still unable to automatically filter the Idle section out of our front pages.
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Re:Fuck you, Slashdot. (Score:5, Insightful)
TODAY - slashdot jumped the shark. (Score:5, Insightful)
So many years of wonderful service.
d~y
Fitting captcha: crested
Is it me (Score:2)
Jumped the shark? (Score:5, Insightful)
(no dispespect to the video makers, but we can all browse youtube randomly if we want...)
--Q
Re:Jumped the shark? (Score:5, Insightful)
This is not that different from news. I could read all the news sites that are feature on slashdot, but I don't have time to so I quite like someone else picking stuff thats vaguely geek related and putting it in one place.
I always see some stuff on slashdot I am not interested in. My solution is simple: I don't click on the read more link and skip to the next article. Its not like there are so many stories on slashdot that you cant see all the previews easily yet and there is no need to read every single thing thats gets posted to the front page even if the summary indicates you won't like it.
In this case what were you all expecting when you clicked on a summary which told you that it linked to a utube video featuring maths and crap dancing?
Please Don't Become Another Digg (Score:5, Insightful)
My FF3.0b5 on F9 doesn't have sound on youtube??? (Score:2)
It works when I fire off mplayer against a flv pulled down from youtube... But not from the browser?
Slopes and curves (Score:2, Informative)
I loved the video! What a coincidence - just spent the last couple of days with similar problems, trying to develop a curve for an audio compression algorithm. I began with logarithmic curves, but in the end, chose quadratic curves in place of the logarithmic curves because they provide a very smooth transition from linear slope to curved. Though the logarithmic curves did as well provide a nice smooth curve, they had an abrupt transition at the point where that curve joined the linear slope. In the end,
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Just threw a graph up on my web site of the family of curves [tropicalcoder.com] the code generates
YouTube Happens (Score:5, Insightful)
In St. Louis, it took a 100% increase in gas prices to motivate people actually start carpooling, up ~30% recently. Every dime increase instigated vocal outrage, but little to no action. But when it starts eating into our beer budgets, then we call Ride-Finders.
Slashdot has jumped the shark about 30 times now, and we still read it, we still participate. Heck, this is the first post I've been motivated to comment on in quite some time.
All you youtube player haters best just chill. If you hate it so bad, it's a relatively free internet for the time being (legislation pending). Go start your own slashcode site with zero youtubes. We'll be right behind you in the other car. No seriously. We're not going to ditch you, honest.
News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters (Score:5, Insightful)
This is what makes /. great (Score:5, Insightful)
Then I read the comments and realized that the video wasn't funny or appropriate, and was in fact a harbinger of the Apocalypse. I shouldn't be smiling and happy - I should be ranting and outraged. I should be writing my elected officials and forming citizens action committees.
How dare slashdot trick people into a watching a silly youtube video buy disguising it as a story about a silly youtube video. Don't the slashdot editors realize that there is only a limited amount of webspace space on the internet, and they shouldn't be wasting it on stuff like this?
I am so glad I have seen the error of my ways. Now I just need to know where I can get one of these giant sticks to ram up my pigu, so I too can be a diligent defender of Slashdot integrity.
A lot of non-nerds must be reading /. these days (Score:4, Insightful)
Drop Idle, Keep Comment bar (Score:4, Insightful)
Please, Slashdot, drop this. This isn't Fark, this isn't Digg, this isn't StumbleUpon. While I don't hate those sites, this kind of stuff belongs there. Slashdot is about "hard" news (with an editorial bias) and science/tech industry, not "LOL THATS FUNNAYE". Not to say we can't have humor, but it should be the tongue-in-cheek or irony kind.
One good thing Idle does have-- the comment bar. Compared to the comment bar on regular Slashdot entries, this is light years ahead. It's much smoother, it doesn't take up a large amount of space on the left side (making some comments look longer than they really are), and overall is just cleaner.
Take that, go back o the old "Reply to This|Parent" stripe (instead of those unnecessarily large buttons), and you'll be doing Slashdot a great service.
But drop Idle first. Seriously, it's completely worthless. I'm really glad I'm not paying for this shit.
Friendly adivce to CmdrTaco (Score:3, Insightful)
I love slashdot. I was a teen when I found it, and to this day I've told countless number of people that I've learned more from slashdot and its community than from all my 6 years and 2 so-called prestigious academic degrees combined.
I am hugely in debt to you for creating slashdot.
I understand the motivation behind this post, but thinking of the longer term, I'm sure you realise that this really will put a dent in
PLEASE do not ruin slashdot. Keep idle out of front page, and make it an opt-in option for anyone who wants to view it on their front page.
I trust you will act according to your instincts and convince your overlords to heed this advice.
Re:Ugh (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Ugh (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Ugh (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Ugh (Score:5, Funny)
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This video on Slashtube was an awesome. One of the few where I could be a backup dancer.
Re:Excuse me while I gouge my eyes out with a spoo (Score:5, Insightful)
News For Nerds, Stuff That Matters.
Is now...
News For Sheeple, Stuff That Doesnt Matter.
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Hey guys, it's the weekend, lighten up!
Mind you, what I want to see is "I Wii Survive" - they're STILL out of stock on a regular basis.
Re:Excuse me while I gouge my eyes out with a spoo (Score:5, Informative)
This is rightly in the Idle section, and if you were just looking for something to pass a few minutes and maybe a giggle or two... "choose" to go to the Idle section... just like you would choose to wander around YouTube by itself without having Slashdot.
Weekend or not, I think most people expect Slashdot to provide informative "nerdy" things with a certain amount of dignity.
Idle section? That's *news* to me. (Score:5, Insightful)
If it has funny stuff like this, I'm there.
I think that, once in a blue moon, putting something on the front page from other sections that don't normally make it there is a good thing.
I get to say vitriol...and probably spell it wrong (Score:2)
It's the same shit, so why does mindless news incite anger and "sheeple" references when being sold to doesn't?
Re:I get to say vitriol...and probably spell it wr (Score:4, Insightful)
Well if there's one thing that's been constant about slashdot over the years, it's that people love to whine about the stories. They still read them and comment of course.
For Pete's Sake! (Score:4, Insightful)
Go outside and play or something!
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even for those who aren't going gay.
Fixed that for you :-)
P.S. To SlashDot: if I want to Idle my time away I'll browse Fark thankyouverymuch, please for the love of his noodly appendage, keep the idle.slashdot posts off the front page.
Sarcasm much (Score:2)
Re:News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. (Score:4, Insightful)
Or at the very least, as has already been mentioned a few times, they should make it possible to filter idle, like everything else.
The reaction does seem a bit strong, but I think it is a cumulative thing - and this post just produced a watershed of responses.
Mod parent insightful! (Score:2)
Please, Taco... no more idle videos in the frontpage!
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