Everyone likes to belong to something. Whether it be for fun, a sense of belonging, or a need for attention, a group gives you a feeling of solidarity. Surrounding yourself with people that share common goals and ideas can be comforting. Sometimes however, you realize that you hate the people you've surrounded yourself with. Your religion doesn't allow you to read anything that has profanity or you've subscribed to Slashdot thinking you could learn more about hockey. This week's collection is composed of people who don't want to play, read, or be associated with us anymore. Read below to find out how bad they want out.
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 ****** wrote:
"I'm relly sick of the level of discrimination that goes on here. I thought it might be different with other people who maybe didn't win everything. But its no different people won't be nice when your nice first. I try to say what others are saying and they get marked up? Not me as well? How can that be? If I'm the same how can they not act the same to me. It's like you have to be around forever before they won't say bad things about your comments. I thought it was different but they are just as BIG COCSUCKERS!!!!! Take my account and throw it away I've had enough of the newbie bigotry and FUCKING UNFAIR LIES."
Being just like everyone else is harder than you think. This next guy at least isn't concerned about being accepted. He has a clear vision of what he wants out of life. His vision is a world without profanity.
On Tue, 13 May 2008 ******* wrote:
"I try to live a good clean life by learning all I can and nurturing my body and spirit. I'm afraid that I will not be able to become part of your community as I find it sick. Sick in mind body and soul. Why your people deem it necessary to use the language that they do I can never understand. Women, children and people of faith will never be able to learn what you have to impart because of the filth you are tending in this rank garden. Please stop sending me email."
This next guy had me puzzled. I'd never had a complaint from fans of Guns-N-Roses, horror movies or unsound logging practices about the confusing "Slash" part of Slashdot.
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 ******** wrote:
"I came here to learn about hockey and there is no hockey to be found. Your lucky that I didn't send you any money or we would have a big problem right now. If you don't want others to be confused to I suggest you think about changing your name to something that isn't obviously about hockey. I asked some coworkers and they agree, I'm not just some idiot. Come up with a name that means something."
So Many Questions About This Section (Score:3, Insightful)
Also, what is the expected result of our discussions of this stuff? Is it to pick it apart and analyze it? Is it to provide user generated retorts that you can't due to legal reasons? I shall try a little of both.
Is Slashdot trying to add an optional low brow element to satisfy users that have left for other sites dedicated to that? Because, you know that half of your users are going to tag this 'pleasestop' or some such negative approval tag.
Also, why does it look different than the rest of Slashdot? Isn't it just another section? Why do you need another CSS for it? I seem to think it would be better site design to have a thorough reused theme but maybe you want the reader to know it's Idle. Who knows? Sure seems to upset a lot of people.
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"I'm relly sick of the level of discrimination that goes on here."
This level of reverence for the moderation system never ceases to amaze me. Hell, I myself can have a sour day if I'm given a thrashing on a post. This person doesn't even seem to be a regular user and they are already upset.
A very peculiar amount of power, these mod points are. Enough for someone to call a negative moderation discrimination!
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"I try to live a good clean life by learning all I can and nurturing my body and spirit."
Despite being raised Roman Catholic for 18 years, this still baffles me. I know I'm not the first person to share this view (I think I read about it in Vonnegut's "Palm Sunday") but there is a reason I don't swear often. It's not so I can be 'clean' and 'pure' ... it's so that when I do swear, people know I'm not fucking around. Seriously, if you're dropping f-bombs left and right then where do you go when you're genuinely upset? I prefer to not raise my voice so those words are reserved for extreme moments. I feel bad for the people who incorporate them into everyday life ... how loud do you think an injured rapper would have to raise their voice before people gave them medical attention?
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"I came here to learn about hockey and there is no hockey to be found. Your lucky that I didn't send you any money or we would have a big problem right now."
Am I the only person that had the sudden urge to register hockeydot.org and have it redirect to Slashdot?
"If you don't want others to be confused to I suggest you think about changing your name to something that isn't obviously about hockey. I asked some coworkers and they agree ..."
Are these the same coworkers that face physical abuse or verbal ridicule if they don't agree with you?
" ... I'm not just some idiot. Come up with a name that means something."
Of course you're not an idiot, you're just a hockey fan. And if <insert object here> isn't bleeding with hockey (in this case the internet), you are angered with it. I understand. I'm from Minnesota where many of your kind roam around in large herds laying waste to beer and stadiums. I would suggest moving there for solace and the ability to experience all hockey all the time.
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:5, Interesting)
can't tell if you're trolling, but this is just the weekly crossover from idle.slashdot.org.
Its the /. topic section for totally random waste of time nonsensical sort of things. Its late on a Friday and they feel like sharing once a week some of the random, potentially humorous mail they get.
I actually find them fairly entertaining each week.
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:5, Insightful)
They are entertaining. For awhile, I wondered about moderation and how it works here, but figured it out finally. Now, When I get modded troll or flamebait, I like to think of it as a trophy... for having offended someone enough to waste their mod point that way :)
Seeing others get angry out of confusion or just tech illiteracy does my heart good.
Reading their comments, you just know this is the guy at your local watering hole wearing the nascar hat backwards and having a great time with some light beer. (with some luck, I've just offended a few more people :))) {it's humor people}
It's fun to see that /. gets its share of normal people who do not know rm -rf from a hole in their hard drive.
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:4, Insightful)
Maybe /. looks kind of like a hockey stick hitting a puck?
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:4, Funny)
I was befuddled as well. Trying to find out what the connection was, I googled "hockey slash". Oops. ... page after page of hockey player slash fiction.
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:5, Insightful)
For what it's worth, I look forward to these disagree mails. Low brow? That's one way to see it. But on another level, I find it a useful reminder, especially in a fairly-like-minded community like this, that much of the world thinks far differently than I do.
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:5, Funny)
"Am I the only person that had the sudden urge to register hockeydot.org and have it redirect to Slashdot?"
Registered. I'll have it redirecting to this story shortly.
-Chris
I think this is the reason for the confusion: (Score:4, Interesting)
Am I the only person that had the sudden urge to register hockeydot.org and have it redirect to Slashdot?
Check this out: Hockeydot.net. [hockeydot.net]
Yeah, I know, slashDOT, hockeyDOT...right. It's a weak connection, but the sender was a weak idiot. I would expect this kind of stupid logic from a person like him.
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:5, Funny)
I actually enjoyed that email, 'cause I can understand where the kid was coming from. Until you've got positive karma, you might as well be posting directly to /dev/null most of the time. I posted for months before I got a karma bonus, and then, all the sudden, I'm getting posts modded up on a regular basis.
I didn't find it quite as frustrating as this kid did, but that email really shows how I'm sure thousands of "outsiders" feel about slashdot. Slashdot's tendency to weed out all but the most dedicated keeps the signal-to-noise ratio extremely high, but it probably drives away many, many potential posters.
Seriously? You can't tell the difference between someone saying "Fucking thing sucks! We'll do it live!", and "HOLY FUCK THERE'S A HOLE IN MY ABDOMEN AND MY FUCKING SPLEEN IS ABOUT TO FALL OUT!"?
I seriously doubt that rappers really have trouble getting medical attention whenever they need it. Really, how do you imagine that scene working out in your world? "Oh, I'm sorry Mr. DMX. When you said 'Bitch, I got shot in the knee - I need a fucking ambulance', I thought you were just experimenting with some new lyrics"?
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Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:4, Funny)
Including the -1 you just got? ;)
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Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:4, Funny)
Really
No doubt about it.
Three times sure.
really.
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I've yet to see an argument that would prove you right.
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:4, Funny)
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Sadly some people get hung up on thinking that moderation systems are useless unless they are as good as professional level peer-reviewed scientific journals. That is an impossible standard. Enjoy being invisible to me 95% of the time--you deserve it.
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:5, Insightful)
The moderation system is not perfect, but the majority of the mods that I see are fair; those complaining about the system being broken are usually the most profane, offensive people.
Epimenides would be proud (Score:4, Insightful)
This is fantastic. Your comment disproves itself!
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I was just gonna leave the thread as it was because I thought it was funnier to let you have the last bewildered, headscratching word.
But since you're intent on dragging it on and on (I commend you for having the courage for a karma suicide of this magnitude), here is a point-by-point explanation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamebait [wikipedia.org]
I would characterize calling the admins retards as consistent with the above definition.
You said "Nearly every downmodding that occurs on Slashdot is 100% invalid."
But your fla
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Perhaps the fact that you are being flamed in the responses to your posts, indicates that your posts are, in fact, "flamebait"
Additionally, the abusive verbiage used in your original post indicates that you were posting clearly for incendiary value.
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A completely public mod system. If you downmod someone, and I don't approve of your moderation, then I can filter your moderations in the future. Also allow controls for recently created accounts to prevent advertisers from spamming new accounts, and you're done. Better moderation system achieved.
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You've been downmodded over 10 times because of your N posts, N of them are trolls and/or flamebait.
Your first post is clearly a troll by stating that /.'s mod system is broken, as a reply to a comment which is unrelated to /.'s mod system. That's the precise definition of troll; furthermore, it is not a fact (no matter how much anecdotal evidence you offer), but rather, your opinion. Your other N-1 posts (all but the first) are meta-troll and/or meta-flamebait posts; in each post, you argue that the fir
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All overblown hyperbole is actually factually correct. Every single sweeping statement is entirely wrong, however.
my impression of you (Score:5, Funny)
COME ON MODS, FIGHT ME YOU FAGGOTS
What? Trying to pick a fight? Moi? Clearly you have no idea what picking a fight means, YOU DAMN FAGGOTS
Re:my impression of you (Score:4, Funny)
The only sensible mod for this post would be -1 Troll, +6 Underrated. Thus achieving the holy grail of +5 troll.
Re: So Many Questions About This Section (Score:5, Insightful)
So let me see if I get this right. There's some vast conspiracy amongst the randomly selected slashdot modders to cover up the truth and promote a "self server corporate agenda" (which unless you're a CEO or a board member of a corporation doesn't seem to make sense to me but what do I know?). The answer to this problem is to get rid of it so I have to root through every post some 13 year old kid makes to find something interesting or to place the modding system into the hands of some enlightened elite group of people who know better than everyone else. Is that it?
If so, my only question is who would choose these enlightened souls and / or who would they be?
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I come to that conclusion by process of elimination because there is no other intelligent reason for this
Yeah, because nobody else in the geek community ever [thebestpag...iverse.net] posts their hate mail [thepiratebay.org].
It's funny, entertaining, and it's on idle. Get over it.
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All the internet should follow your shining example. The passion and fire within your breast that you hold for this website should be admired. Finally someone has stepped up to criticize the horrible travesty here.
Thank you for taking the time to read these idle posting that you hate so much and draft a comment letting everyone know how much you hate these posts you've read.
Your stirring rhetoric has compelled me to take action and block ads. We'll show the enemy we are not to be trifled with!
Re:So Many Questions About This Section (Score:5, Informative)
By definition "Theft of Music" is stealing. Copyright infringement isn't theft.
Don't like that? Argue with the U. S. Congress. They carefully put copyright law in Title 17 of the U.S. Legal code. The just as carefully put all theft related law in a different whole title. That title is the one reserved for ALL normally criminal violations, as it says right at the start of the code, so the U. S. congress thinks copyright infringement isn't theft AND isn't necessarily criminal at all.
Argue with the Supreme Court. They ruled that individual states can't enforce copyright, so if violations were theft, they would be taking away the right of the individual states to stop a type of theft happening in their own physical jurisdiction. The Supreme Court has already clarified that that is not what they did.
Argue with the Constitution. It uses the phrase "for a limited time". If violation equaled theft, then the law would be saying there is a type of theft where objects become too old to be protected under law, just from age and not from any loss of value.
Argue with the Berne treaty. If violation is theft, then what's all that bit in the treaty about non-criminal violation? Non-criminal theft? That's an oxymoron for sure.
If you really believe copyright violation is theft, then you need to get up impeachment proceedings against at least four of the current supreme court justices and over 40 still active congressmen who voted on these laws in the 80's and 90's. Depending on just which decisions you would rate as coddling thieves, that could be all the SCOTUS and over 250 active congress-members. You also need to impeach the President, Vice President, Secretary of State, and possibly several members of the cabinet for negotiating and signing various treaties and such. There are at least 10 currently serving ambassadors and their immediate staff that you need to get removed from office too, and various other functionaries. You probably should prosecute a large number of people now out of office, or at least support civil suits for denial of due process against many of them. You also need to get a constitutional amendment passed. If you aren't working for any of this, you don't really believe copyright violation is theft, or you lack the stones to speak truth to power. It's easy to harangue a bunch of rank and file people on slashdot - but if you really mean it, tell the big dogs off.
This Rank Garden (Score:4, Funny)
"Women, children and people of faith will never be able to learn what you have to impart because of the filth you are tending in this rank garden."
What? Hold the horses, here! There is something to be learned from Slashdot? And here I thought it was a place for over-opinionated (and often bored) tech folks committing the equivalent of mental masturbation.
Three frickin' emails!? (Score:4, Funny)
Am I seeing this right!? I don't have a problem with the idle section, but this isn't even worthy of an Idle thread.
I can answer one of your questions. (Score:5, Funny)
Why your people deem it necessary to use the language that they do I can never understand
We're a VB.Net shop. The language was forced upon us. We don't like it any more than you do. Sorry.
My prediction (Score:3, Interesting)
The Profanity Guy (Score:3, Insightful)
So, I totally sympathize with him, even though it's obvious his email is misdirected.
Weak faith (Score:5, Funny)
On that note: Cock!
visual relief (Score:3, Informative)
// ==UserScript==
// @name slashdot
// @namespace foo
// @description unscewup idle
// @include http://idle.slashdot.org/
// ==/UserScript==
var a, thisdomain, links;
links = document.getElementsByTagName('div');
for (var i = 0; i < links.length; i++) {
a = links[i];
if (a.getAttribute("class") == "head" ) {
a.style.backgroundColor = 'white';
a.style.color = 'black';
}
if (a.getAttribute("class") == "details" ) {
a.style.color = 'black';
}
if (a.getAttribute("class") == "body" ) {
a.style.color = 'black';
a.style.fontSize = "100%";
}
}
Seems to work for now.
YMMV.
No Hockey? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:idle (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:idle (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes, listen to your users.
I find idle to be an aptly named entertaining time-waster.
Please count me as a vote to keep it, in all its green-backgrounded, hate-mail-filled glory.
Re:idle (Score:5, Informative)
I likes it as well...All work and no play makes for a dull day. I wish all the goddamn whiners would learn to use the goddamn preferences if they don't want to see it.
HERE is the LINK [slashdot.org] you whiny bastards...Scroll down to "idle" and put the little dot in the little radio box under the universal circle/slash that means DO NOT WANT.
Re:idle (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe you should write slashdot an email to complain.
Re:Slashot? Hockey? (Score:5, Informative)
To slash someone in hockey means to strike them with the blade of your stick, usually the lower legs. If the ref sees you do it, it's a two minute minor penalty.
Re:Slashot? Hockey? (Score:5, Funny)
And The Onion. Don't even get him started on The Onion.
Re:Slashot? Hockey? (Score:5, Funny)
Perhaps he should try underscoreslashdot.org ( "_/." ).
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Oh yeah? Well I suggest you think about changing your name to something that isn't obviously about ninjas.
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There's another effect that's quite similar: People over-estimate mediocre skills in others when they don't possess that skill. For example, I am, at best, an average math student by most standards. However, some people think I'm mathematically gifted because I can explain a linear equation.
Then there's the effect where people assume someone is smart because they agree on some irrelevant point. For example, say I oppose the (current incarnation) of the death penalty. Others think I'm smart because they oppo
Re:The Dunning-Kruger Effect (Score:4, Interesting)
Not being a hockey fan, I guess I'm in need of some education. Just exactly how is the name slashdot "obviously about hockey"?
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/. looks like a hockey stick.