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on Tuesday August 19, @01:10PM from the crazyboy dept.
German police have confiscated the world's fastest office chair and arrested its 17-year-old inventors. The duo added a lawnmower engine, brakes and a metal frame to the office chair and were reported to be driving it all over the streets of Gross-Zimmern. Police did not comment on the chair's handling or acceleration but I look forward to it being profiled on Top Gear.
I think the problem isn't that they invented something, it's that they were very irresponsible with it (driving a motor vehicle on the streets without proper training or safety measures).
And I wouldn't call a lawnmower-engine powered office chair "useful". Interesting, and amusing, but not useful.
"Good engineering accommodates the errors and omissions of users. Bad engineering relies on laws and conventions to overcome inherent systemic flaws. Laws and conventions are, therefore, indicative of bad engineering."
Good engineering accommodates errors and omissions INSOFAR as it is practical/cost effective. Your solutions all require significantly more capital investment than the ones in existence now.
There is also a similar hazard in that relying on engineering to make something idiot proof allows the idiots to have a false sense of security, inevitably leading them to strive to newer, previously unimaginable heights of stupidity that the engineers hadn't even thought possible.
You do realise that if there are no traffic regulations, then people are free to drive straight over the roundabout, go the wrong way around it, or use it as a meeting place for a pimped-out-bouncy-suspension car convention?
"I for one welcome our rocket chair creating overlords. "
In fairness, the picture is wholly unrelated to the story - unless they have started making Barcalounger shaped office chairs and 8 hp piston engines that shoot gigantic flames out the back. Both of which would be AWESOME!!
"In fairness, the picture is wholly unrelated to the story"
...and the picture isnt taken in August in Germany (note bare trees and winter driving gear) and the driver isnt 17 unless they've been taking East German steroids. Which would ALSO be AWESOME!
It's an office chair isn't it? I'd like to roll up to a departmental meeting in one of those.
Depends on which company we're talking about. If Microsoft, I shudder to think what Balmer could do with one of these. It'd be as if millions of programmers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
In Germany every motorized vehicle driven on public roads needs to pass a regular safety test*1 , has to have vehicle insurance and you'll need the right driving license.
Everything else is/very/ illegal.
The definition of "public roads" includes publicly assessible parking lots.
That's a set of laws that really makes me feel safer.
I bet Dean Kamen is wondering why he wasted his time messing with gyroscopes and other sophisticated electronics. These can probably be made for 1/10th the cost of a Segway and they could probably be made just as maneuverable.
Sure, you don't sit as highly as you stand but that's probably a good thing overall. Probably gets 200 MPG, too.
See, this is what/really/ should've been visualized in the Minority Report movie...Millions of office workers rolling to work in their powered office chairs, whisked up buildings and directly to their desks to toil...Silently sliding up to the bar at the end of the day...Ugh. I think I've just visualized the end of legs.
Is the picture misleading (i.e. not the chair referred to in the article) or did they do something significantly more than put a lawnmower engine on it?
I suppose this is probably one of those "happy-days" fantasies, but how cool would it be to live back in an age where regulation didn't exist. Where danger was all around. Where you could invent, and wow people. Where accidents happened. Where imagination was your only limit.
You'd most likely have died in infancy from improperly pasteurized milk. Pretty freaking cool, huh?
And yet, somehow they got by. People exercised their own judgment, self control and personal responsibility. No government body was looking out for them; they simply smelled the milk before they drank.
There is a picture of the actual vehicle [hr-online.de] on the Web. It seems that the office chair really constitutes just a minor component of it, which becomes obvious if you compare the vehicle to the racing chairs used in official championships [hr-online.de] (page in Germany, I'm sorry).
"The AP story does not contain the word "arrested" anywhere, it only says that the device was confiscated and the individuals were being investigated."
Well, you apparently read the story - there's your first problem...
So much for the seeds of .... (Score:5, Funny)
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I think the problem isn't that they invented something, it's that they were very irresponsible with it (driving a motor vehicle on the streets without proper training or safety measures).
And I wouldn't call a lawnmower-engine powered office chair "useful". Interesting, and amusing, but not useful.
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Re:So much for the seeds of .... (Score:5, Funny)
Imagine how much less congestion there would be on our highways if we all drove office chairs to work.
Yes, I do understand that semi trucks would be an issue.
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Re:So much for the seeds of .... (Score:5, Insightful)
"Good engineering accommodates the errors and omissions of users. Bad engineering relies on laws and conventions to overcome inherent systemic flaws. Laws and conventions are, therefore, indicative of bad engineering."
Good engineering accommodates errors and omissions INSOFAR as it is practical/cost effective. Your solutions all require significantly more capital investment than the ones in existence now.
There is also a similar hazard in that relying on engineering to make something idiot proof allows the idiots to have a false sense of security, inevitably leading them to strive to newer, previously unimaginable heights of stupidity that the engineers hadn't even thought possible.
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Re:So much for the seeds of .... (Score:5, Insightful)
Use a roundabout instead of a 4-way stop.
You do realise that if there are no traffic regulations, then people are free to drive straight over the roundabout, go the wrong way around it, or use it as a meeting place for a pimped-out-bouncy-suspension car convention?
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Re:So much for the seeds of .... (Score:5, Funny)
Much like the shamwow, it's from Germany and you know those guys make good stuff.
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Re:So much for the seeds of .... (Score:5, Funny)
"I for one welcome our rocket chair creating overlords. "
In fairness, the picture is wholly unrelated to the story - unless they have started making Barcalounger shaped office chairs and 8 hp piston engines that shoot gigantic flames out the back. Both of which would be AWESOME!!
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Re:So much for the seeds of .... (Score:5, Funny)
It's an office chair isn't it? I'd like to roll up to a departmental meeting in one of those.
Depends on which company we're talking about. If Microsoft, I shudder to think what Balmer could do with one of these. It'd be as if millions of programmers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
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Re:So much for the seeds of .... (Score:5, Informative)
> I don't see much difference.
In Germany every motorized vehicle driven on public roads needs to pass a regular safety test*1 , has to have vehicle insurance and you'll need the right driving license.
Everything else is /very/ illegal.
The definition of "public roads" includes publicly assessible parking lots.
That's a set of laws that really makes me feel safer.
*1) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Technischer_Ueberwachungsverein&oldid=230576541 [wikipedia.org]
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Segway Competitor (Score:4, Funny)
Sure, you don't sit as highly as you stand but that's probably a good thing overall. Probably gets 200 MPG, too.
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Rocket chair? (Score:4, Insightful)
Is the picture misleading (i.e. not the chair referred to in the article) or did they do something significantly more than put a lawnmower engine on it?
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How I yearn for the days (Score:5, Insightful)
I suppose this is probably one of those "happy-days" fantasies, but how cool would it be to live back in an age where regulation didn't exist. Where danger was all around. Where you could invent, and wow people. Where accidents happened. Where imagination was your only limit.
The lawyer has replaced the priest.
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Re:How I yearn for the days (Score:5, Insightful)
You'd most likely have died in infancy from improperly pasteurized milk. Pretty freaking cool, huh?
And yet, somehow they got by. People exercised their own judgment, self control and personal responsibility. No government body was looking out for them; they simply smelled the milk before they drank.
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Re:How I yearn for the days (Score:5, Insightful)
>And yet, somehow they got by.
Sure did, except your mom had 9 kids of which 5 survived into adulthood.
Good old days!
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Picture (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Ahh, the nanny state. (Score:5, Funny)
Yes. They kept shooting potatoes at all the motorized office chairs.
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Re:Images on front page (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe you should just get over it. It's just a little picture, what's the problem? Did an image kill your dog or something?
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Re:Images on front page (Score:5, Funny)
Give him a break. It takes a very long time to download an image over a 300 baud modem.
And I suggest you stay off his lawn.
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Re:disconnect (Score:5, Informative)
FAIL!
The AP story does not contain the word "arrested" anywhere, it only says that the device was confiscated and the individuals were being investigated.
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"The AP story does not contain the word "arrested" anywhere, it only says that the device was confiscated and the individuals were being investigated."
Well, you apparently read the story - there's your first problem...
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Re:ACHTUNG! (Score:5, Funny)
Well you gotta nip that sort of youthful "creativity" in the butt.
Remember that German kid who wanted to become an architect? They let it slide, and the next thing you know, he was annexing Poland.
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