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Posted by samzenpus
from the the-old-ball-and-chain dept.
Being in a relationship is not easy, more than half of all first marriages fail in this country. That statistic doesn't improve if you spend most of your time reading your favorite website and not tending to the needs of your family. Instead of asking me to help fix your relationship maybe you should try playing with your kids, talking to your wife, and not staring at a computer screen all day. You should realize that the help link doesn't provide help with your life. It's mostly for getting passwords and stuff. Below you'll find a collection of people that should have reached out to Dr. Phil and not Dr. Sam.

It seems to me that the simple fix for this guy is to make a new account and get the guts to tell his wife to stop calling work.

On Wed June 25, 2008 ********* wrote:
"Is it possible to take all of my account information and insert it into a new account? I ask because my wife has started to check on me through Slashdot while I'm at work. She doesn't think I am working if I post during the day. It has reached the point where she will call work if she sees that I have posted. My boss doesn't like it and I can't get her to stop. I'd hate to have to get my karma back up to where it is now or have my posts (which are very good mostly) not associated with a new account. I know I could just start posting anonymous coward but I have a problem with having what I write linked to the word coward. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance."

On Sat July 7, 2007 ******** wrote:
"If I become someone's friend can I see everything they post even if they post anonymously? I think my wife is having an affair with one of your users. I have no direct proof but she doesn't talk to me when I get home like she used to, she doesn't seem interested in what I have to say or planning trips. Worst of all she gets upset at me when I try to touch her. I know she is very attracted to geek types (I can be a bit of a nerd) and she shuts off the screen when I come in. I thought at first she was talking to someone on a singles site or was looking at something inappropriate but when I made her show me one night it was Slashdot. I asked why she didn't want me to know she was looking at Slashdot and her excuse was ridiculous. I assume she's been talking to someone on your site and It would be a great help if you could let me know how to find out what she has been doing. I would be willing to get a subscription if you could help."

I think the obvious solution is that he should leave his wife and marry the first guy. That way there wouldn't be any question as to why anyone was reading Slashdot. They could live the rest of their lives commenting together. It's kind of romantic. Finally, we have a guy who should shut off his machine and play with his damn kids before they come home wearing black mascara and sporting a new face tattoo. His wife is right. They are a lot more fun when they are not telling you how you ruined their lives.

On Sun Jan 20, 2008 ****** wrote:
"I have 2 young kids and it would be great if you made a Slashdot kids section. Your readers are getting older and most are going to have kids soon if they don't already. I'm not sure if you have children but in case you don't let me tell you how hard it is to get anything done in your free-time that doesn't involve yelling at them and putting them in timeout. My wife is always complaining that the kids just want to play with me and that I should be grateful, when they get older they may want nothing to do with us. It would be awesome if I could plop them down in front of a computer next to me and look at kids stuff on Slashdot. That way we would be doing something together. Just a thought. I love the site but would really love it if I could use it to spend time with the kids."

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  • by Tubal-Cain (1289912) on Friday October 03, 2008 @01:46PM (#25248585) Journal
    Yeah, I loathed moving accounts without being able to take my karma with me, but it's really not that bad. If you behave yourself, you should get that +1 bonus back pretty quickly.
  • by ultramk (470198) <ultramk.pacbell@net> on Friday October 03, 2008 @01:46PM (#25248587)

    Since this thread will soon be filled with the tortured whining of socially stunted geeks who can't figure out how to set up their preferences to not display "idle" submissions, let me be the first to celebrate this week's episode of the best thing about /.

    Bring it, haters: I have karma to burn.

    • by Jason Earl (1894) on Friday October 03, 2008 @02:00PM (#25248761) Homepage Journal

      I agree, and these emails have been the best yet. Not only were they interesting, but they were written by people that could form complete sentences. I will admit that I feel a little bad for the second guy. He's clearly got a serious problem. It's just funny that he would write the Slashdot editors for help tracking his wife.

      And honey, if you are reading this... I Love You.

      • by Tatsh (893946)

        Yeah. The previous posts of this were terrible and very uninteresting, extremely BORING and pointless.

      • Nerd psychology (Score:5, Insightful)

        by AlpineR (32307) <wagnerr@umich.edu> on Friday October 03, 2008 @03:28PM (#25249933) Homepage

        I thought this batch of disagree mail was an interesting look into nerd psychology.

        #1) Terrible irony: you don't want to post as a "coward" but you appear afraid to stand up to your overbearing stalker wife. Or maybe you're not afraid and have stood up, but you're stuck with an unreasonable spouse.

        #2) Sorry dude, she hasn't been fooling around on Slashdot. She's fooling around alright, or at least looking at sites that she doesn't think you'll approve of. But you know how you leave an Excel window open all day so you can quickly hide Slashdot if your boss comes by? Well she opened a Slashdot window to hide what she was really doing.

        #3) Some people aren't meant to have kids, at least not yet. Unfortunately you have kids you don't want. And anyways, would having your kid reading kids.slashdot.com next to you really be any better than having them surf pbskids.org next to you?

        ALL) Not only do Slashdot readers have girlfriends, but they have wives and kids (you insensitive clod)!

        • Re:Nerd psychology (Score:4, Interesting)

          by afabbro (33948) on Friday October 03, 2008 @03:34PM (#25249987) Homepage

          I thought this batch of disagree mail was an interesting look into nerd psychology.

          Indeed. By inventing these emails and composing them, samzenpus has shown us how he thinks of the typical Slashdot reader.

    • socially stunted geeks who can figure out how to set up their preferences to not display "idle" submissions, but doesnt do so and actually read those 'idle' submissions ?
  • Divorce Rates (Score:5, Interesting)

    by eldavojohn (898314) * <[moc.liamg] [ta] [nhojovadle]> on Friday October 03, 2008 @01:49PM (#25248611) Journal

    "Being in a relationship is not easy, more than half of all first marriages fail in this country. That statistic doesn't improve if you spend most of your time reading your favorite website and not tending to the needs of your family."

    A coworker & I were discussing the alarming amount of people around us who are divorced. It's really crazy.

    We bagan betting which state would have the highest divorce rate ... probably New York or California I had thought. We decided to look up the annual divorce rates by state [statemaster.com] and were shocked to see that some states in the bible belt [wikipedia.org] states are relatively high. One of our most cherished institutions indeed!

    We both had forgotten about Vegas! :)

    These numbers look really low because it's yearly ... but as the decay continues for--say Ohio with 4%--you have a group of 100 couples over ten years ending up (exponential decay formula) with 33 divorced couples Our conversation continued to speculate what the hell has changed. We were wondering if it had to do with the fact that the world is getting smaller. I come into contact with way more people today than 20 years ago. Do I find a suitable mate and then find a more suitable mate later? Is it ebbing morals? Is it growing equality of the sexes? Is divorce rewarded in some way? Most importantly, I thought, there is less of a social stigma associated with it. Most likely it's influenced by all of these things.

    Personally I think it's a shame but there's not a lot to be done about it.

    • by EVil Lawyer (947367) on Friday October 03, 2008 @01:54PM (#25248681)
      Um, I don't think this thread is about what you think it's about.
    • by geekoid (135745)

      People get married too soon.
      Divorce is better then being in a miserable relationship all your life bacause of some social stigma.
      Not so say people should try to make it work, but that doesn't mean it will.
      Morals is a religious word, so if my ebbing morals you mean "Failure for a women to be the subservant bitch the bible says she's supposed to be" then yeah, ebbing morals. Fortunately it's not from ebbing ethics.

      • by edmicman (830206)
        Since when was "morals" restricted to religion? It's the distinction and perception between right and wrong - that's human nature!
        • Re:Divorce Rates (Score:4, Interesting)

          by operagost (62405) on Friday October 03, 2008 @04:05PM (#25250369) Homepage Journal
          I would like to add that the bible does not demand that a woman be subservient to her husband. It does prescribe that she be subordinate, in that both partners have equal worth but the husband must accept responsibility for the marriage. The husband must respect his wife's emotions and intelligence, and make decisions while taking consideration of her feelings and input. Basically, he is what the perfect manager would be.

          To believers, this is akin to how the Son answers to the Father; but because they are one God (just like a man clings to his wife and they become one flesh in Genesis 1), the Son is not lesser than the Father: the Father is just in charge.

          This is just my humble interpretation; feel free to disagree.
          • by geekoid (135745)

            You might want o look a little closer at the bible.

            "encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored." Titus 2:4-5
            Ephesians 5:22-24
            " 22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should

        • by geekoid (135745)

          No, ethics is a determination between right and wrong
          Morals are a determination between good and evil.

    • Re:Divorce Rates (Score:4, Insightful)

      by dedazo (737510) on Friday October 03, 2008 @02:03PM (#25248795) Journal

      The one about the guy who wants a "Slashdot for kids" is especially disturbing so he can "plop" his children in front of a computer and have them leave him alone is especially disturbing.

      I hope that's the exception rather than the rule for geeks who are starting to have families.

      • Re:Divorce Rates (Score:4, Insightful)

        by geekoid (135745) <dadinportland@ya[ ].com ['hoo' in gap]> on Friday October 03, 2008 @02:12PM (#25248907) Homepage Journal

        I'm sure it's the exception.
        Now I would love some sort of slashdot for kids just so my kids have their own avenue for geek news. Not to keep them busy, but to allow them to grow an interest.
        Unfortunately to do that would need a very agressive moderator enforcing strict rules.

        Oh, and when I say 'for kids' I mean kids under 13.
        While kids will get exposed to a lot of stuff, I prefer to protect my 8 year old from some of the crap that goes on in public forums.

      • Actually, I can relate to that guy and his feelings ... even if perhaps, it wasn't worded as well as it could be.

        I'm divorced and have my kid full-time, so there's no other parent for her to go to, and there aren't even any kids in the neighborhood she can really count on playing with. (Most of them are only around every other weekend or so, since they're part of divorced families too.) Since she's an only child, I'm pretty much her only source of entertainment, when she's not playing by herself.

        It gets o

    • Divorce rates are misleading. The people most likely to get divorced are those who have been divorced before. Some people get married and divorced over and over while others stay married for life.

    • Re:Divorce Rates (Score:4, Informative)

      by Otter (3800) on Friday October 03, 2008 @02:22PM (#25249041) Journal
      Those numbers are divorces-per-1000-residents, not percent of marriages. Divorce per capita is largely a function of the marriage rate, which is why bible belt states are high.
    • Re:Divorce Rates (Score:4, Insightful)

      by brocktune (512373) on Friday October 03, 2008 @02:27PM (#25249107) Homepage

      Folks in the Bible Belt marry younger due to greater inhibitions about premarital sex. Then surprise, lots of married people in their mid 20s decide they made a bad life decision when they were 18-20.

      • by Ogive17 (691899)
        I think it has more to do with living in smaller towns than religion. I live in a town with about 20-25k people in Ohio, I just turned 29 and all of my friends are married.

        I think being in smaller town there are less people to meet, and those you do know you see more often. I think the environment here is more conducive for people meeting and marrying at an earlier age.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Proteus (1926)

      My personal theory is that since there's less social stigma against divorce now, people are more willing to actually get divorced when they realize they're not in a functional relationship. It used to be that people (especially women, due to their relative social status) would stay in an entirely unhappy marriage simply because being divorced was worse.

      I don't see what the big "concern" is over divorce rates anyhow, unless your brand of morality includes the idea that people shouldn't get divorced. From a

      • From a pragmatic point of view, who cares?

        Their kids probably care.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Proteus (1926)

          Their kids probably care.

          Yes, because the kids would be so much better off with parents who are unhappy, no longer in love, but lack the gonads to admit it and move on with their lives.

          Kids are better off having divorced parents than having married parents in an unstable relationship.

          • Re:Divorce Rates (Score:4, Insightful)

            by Reckless Visionary (323969) * on Friday October 03, 2008 @04:31PM (#25250675)
            Well, you act as if this is an unarguable point, and that only two options ever present themselves (misery/divorce). While I tend to agree with you in cases of abuse or other extremes, I think it's a leap to assume that all divorces are the result of irreconcilable misery. Some are a result of selfishness, lack of maturity, a degradation of the principle of keeping your word, etc. I think giving a free pass to parents who divorce because "they're unhappy" is a mistake. Successful marriages are neither a great coincidence, nor something that only worked for people born a long time ago, nor a result of a subjugation of women. They are a result of work, willingness to compromise, openness, and a mutual lifelong commitment to make yourself/her/himself a better person for the benefit of yourself, your partner, and possibly your child. Divorce can indicate that one or both partners just isn't willing to do that. Kids care about that.
          • That's assuming that all divorces are due to reasons that truly couldn't be overcome with therapy and plain hard work. Some kids are certainly better off with divorced parents than, say, abusive parents or even just unhappy parents. But people are also sometimes faster to get divorced these days when it's possible that they could work through it. Of course, no one can say which couples are which, but you definitely can't say that every child of divorced parents is better off.
        • Re:Divorce Rates (Score:4, Interesting)

          by bill_kress (99356) on Friday October 03, 2008 @04:20PM (#25250541)

          When my mom divorced my dad she had been the only one working for a long time, and had to take care of two kids while he pretty much drank.

          He couldn't even stay home and take care of us--when she asked him to do that he locked us in our room by tying a rope from the doorknob to something across the hall and went to "play golf". The only egress, a window, was too high to get out of.

          It wasn't like we were being tortured or anything, but we were a good deal better off without him.

          Yes, the kids care!

    • by philspear (1142299) on Friday October 03, 2008 @02:42PM (#25249297)

      Shotgun marriages from knocking up governors' daughters is at least one thing that drives those divorce rates up.

      • Oh, and the gay marriages are probably driving divorce rates down in blue states too.

        • by iNaya (1049686)
          You mean to say gay people don't have relationship problems?? That's it, I'm getting a sex change. No more arguing.
          • Re:Divorce Rates (Score:5, Insightful)

            by xouumalperxe (815707) on Friday October 03, 2008 @04:14PM (#25250473)
            Gay couples probably have roughly as many problems as anyone else. But one can argue that if you're in a state that's very prejudiced against homosexuality, you're likelier to have closet cases marrying "straight", which is a recipe for a failed marriage.
    • Re:Divorce Rates (Score:4, Insightful)

      by g0bshiTe (596213) on Friday October 03, 2008 @02:47PM (#25249373)
      The honest truth is, that people are lazy. It's easier to move on in a relationship to another fresh new relationship than to sit down with your mate and work things out. We have grown into an "all about me" society and this is the reason divorce rates are so high. Taking into account that it's more acceptable in society to leave someone these days as well. It's no wonder many relationships end in divorce.

      For the record my wife and I just celebrated our 13th wedding anniversary. She has been married once before first marriage lasted 13 days before annulment, I have not been married before.
      • Not so sure (Score:2, Insightful)

        I'm not so sure it is laziness. Getting divorced is a hassle. Heck, getting *married* is a hassle. Neither is necessarily cheap either. There are probably lots of lazy people who drift from relationship to relationship but I am not convinced that they are responsible for the divorce rate.

        Rather, I think that people are deluded. They pumped full of bogus sitcom representations "marriage", they have unrealistic views about their own desirability and unrealistic expectations of others. As such, they fail

      • Re:Divorce Rates (Score:4, Informative)

        by ultramk (470198) <ultramk.pacbell@net> on Friday October 03, 2008 @04:23PM (#25250579)

        It isn't laziness. The truth is that people change. Who you are and what you're willing to put up with is different at 35 (45, 55) than it is at 18.

        Sometimes a relationship can grow and adapt and weather the changes that come with the years, and sometimes it can't. The difference is that in my parent's generation, you just sucked it up and resigned yourself to being miserable for the rest of your life, no matter how often your husband was beating you up, how many affairs he had, and how much he treated you like shit after you gained a few pounds and he started drinking every night. You just sucked it up.

        Sometimes marrying someone is a terrible mistake that only becomes apparent years later. As a child of parents who hated each other's guts for pretty much my entire lifetime, couldn't hide it, and didn't get divorced until I turned 18, let me assure you that divorce when I was a little kid would have been far preferable to what I went through.

        Now I'm married, and I'm seven years into it. It isn't always easy, but I'm in it for the long haul. I will guarantee to you that if I ever start acting like my parents did for my entire childhood and adolescence, I will do something about it. Immediately. Life is way too short.

    • by KGIII (973947) *

      I don't see Louisiana, Indiana, or Oklahoma on the list at your link. (When I saw that it added up to 48 I had to figure out which ones are missing.)

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Christ. Tell her to stop calling and get back in the goddamn kitchen and make you a sandwich.

  • That way the whiners don't have to see idle.slashdot.org stories anymore.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by bheer (633842)

      Those complaining about having to see Idle stories in the RSS feed, use Yahoo Pipes (or write your own script, this is a geek site after all) and filter out any RSS item that contains "<slash:section>idle</slash:section>". Processing XML isn't exactly rocket science. Doing it using Yahoo Pipes is probably best, they'll host a synthesized feed for you that other Idle-haters can mooch off.

  • hilarious! When love turns sour the only friend myopic geeks can reach out to is slashdot.
  • Dear slashdot (Score:2, Informative)

    by geekoid (135745)

    Please ban the iups the guy with the kids posts from. Maybe he will start playing with his kids out of sheer boredom.

    Hint:
    "that doesn't involve yelling at them and putting them in timeout"
    You are not doing it correcetly.
    A) You should be yelling at your kids.
    B) If you are yelling at them and then putting themin timeout, you are doing it wrong.

    Not to be surprised becasue most Americans don't seem to understand how to do timeuts.
    When done right, they are a great tools.
    I know becasue I was doing it wrong. When

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by VoxMagis (1036530)

      Hey - hitting your kids is fine. Heck, I didn't turn out to bad!

      Shoot - gotta go - the prison guard says my weekly computer time is up.

    • by db32 (862117)
      I must disagree on hitting the kids, but only slightly. If you are hitting them to hurt them you are doing it wrong. The biggest pain you should be causing them is their pride. It also has to be reserved for the most outrageous or immediate violations for it to have a real effect. When my 5yr old decides its ok to hurt the 2yr old because she annoyed him I come down on him like a flash and give him a solid crack on the butt and send him straight to the corner. His butt only stings for a minute, its his
  • One, two and three (Score:2, Interesting)

    by beldon (79695) *
    One-- You seriously need to grow a pair. Fast.

    Two and three-- Looks like the obvious train doesn't stop in their town.

    Seriously-- web usage is a perfect mirror of who we are inasmuch as it shows what's important to us. Don't blame the mirror for the image it shows because you don't like it. Fix the subject. Or (if you're into short-term solutions) get rid of the mirror. In the latter case, though, don't be surprised if what's in the mirror doesn't go away.

    Okay-- I'm into seriously over-extended
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 03, 2008 @02:05PM (#25248831)

    With the high divorce rate, I have given up on my wife and instead have cats. It would be great if you could add a section for cats. Sometimes my cat wants to play, but I want to read /., so she sits on my keyboard and meows at me. It would be awesome if I could plop her down in front of a computer, so we could be doing something together.

    Also, when I am at work she monitors me on slashdot. This is why I have to post AC. Sometimes she even responds. You know all the comments that seem like the poster couldn't type at all? That's her.

  • by Kwesadilo (942453) on Friday October 03, 2008 @02:18PM (#25248979)

    "On Sun Jan 20, 2008 ****** wrote: "I have 2 young kids and it would be great if you made a Slashdot kids section."

    "Slashdot Announces Idle Section"
    - CmdrTaco, Aug 14, 2008

    Ask, and you shall receive. Took a while, though. His wife probably took the kids and left already. Way to put family first, Slashdot.

  • In the first message. Can this guys wife really be that stupid? Her Husband's job is his income. If she gets him fired for being on Slashdot, it affects her as well. Once the Bills can't get paid, they start loosing things, cars and services and then where they live. Unless of course she's having an affair and just "needs" a reason to leave her Husband. being an unemployed bum is a great reason in the eyes of the court.

  • Can't believe it (Score:4, Insightful)

    by chord.wav (599850) on Friday October 03, 2008 @02:46PM (#25249353) Journal

    1 - Didn't your wife told you not to post?!? Get back to work bitch! Just kidding. C'mon man, talk to her!

    2 - Why don't you ask her directly instead of trying to caught her in the act? You know, some relationships actually benefit from being honest to each other... some even are based on that!

    3 - You should have thought about that BEFORE having kids! Put your sh1t toghether, act like the father you are supposed to be and spend time with your kids. And you better enjoy it.

  • "You should realize that the help link doesn't provide help with your life. It's mostly for getting passwords and stuff."

    I've never needed help forgetting passwords and stuff. I can do that on my own.

  • "Can't get her to stop" pretty much covers (not) having the guts to "tell her to stop". Do you read what you write? I can't imagine a lesser level of trying to get her to stop than telling her. I can imagine more, but not less. Do you think telling you not to make yourself look so oblivious will work, or do we need to try more drastic measures? At least let the disagree mail speak for itself. Your editorializing is backfiring.

    No this isn't flamebait. If it were I'd have said "your petty sniping while hidin

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