Study Finds the Perfect Ratio of Attractiveness 176
Gksksla writes "Scientists in Australia and Hong Kong have conducted a comprehensive study to discover how different body measurements correspond with ratings of female attractiveness. The study, published in the Journal of Evolutionary Biology, found that across cultural divides young, tall and long armed women were considered the most attractive."
Golden Ratio (Score:5, Interesting)
Wasn't this already figured out by Ancient Greek mathematicians? :)
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Wasn't this already figured out by Ancient Greek mathematicians?
Are you referring to that old "Angle of the dangle, mass of the meat something, something" calculation?
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Wasn't this already figured out by Ancient Greek mathematicians?
Are you referring to that old "Angle of the dangle, mass of the meat something, something" calculation?
I always thought it was "heat of the meat"...
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Golden? I got the ratio illustrated for you, right here:
http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/badonk.jpg [funnyjunk.com]
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Wasn't this already figured out by Ancient Greek mathematicians? :)
Sorry to suck the fun out of the comment, but... no.
The ratio of straight lines rarely has much to do with the female form.
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The ratio of straight lines rarely has much to do with the female form.
Thank goodness!
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Unless it's the ratio of straight lines, to gay lines.
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Heh. What part of the chick looks like a ... actually I'm not sure why I'm asking that here.
Forgot one (Score:5, Funny)
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>>>with huge... tracts of land.
Believe it or not, some of us prefer small... um, tracts of land. We'd actually prefer small natural... tracts of land, rather than silicone enhanced... uh, tracts of land. If you catch my meaning.
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>>>young, tall and long armed
i.e. Thin.
There's a tendency in this society (well US society anyway) to hate-on people with vicious comments like "too thin" or "skeletal" or "see-through" when in reality they have a perfectly healthy BMI index. (Between 18.5 and 2
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>>>with huge... tracts of land.
Believe it or not, some of us prefer small... um, tracts of land. We'd actually prefer small natural... tracts of land, rather than silicone enhanced... uh, tracts of land. If you catch my meaning. .
>>>young, tall and long armed
i.e. Thin.
There's a tendency in this society (well US society anyway) to hate-on people with vicious comments like "too thin" or "skeletal" or "see-through" when in reality they have a perfectly healthy BMI index. (Between 18.5 and 23)
Funny It used to be wide hipped lady's that used to consider attractive, Due to how many kids they could pop out.
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>>>It used to be wide hipped lady's that used to consider attractive
That's still true. You've never seen a wide-hipped thin lady? They do exist.
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P.S. Here's a whole bunch of those THIN but still wide-hipped ladies:
Warning: Naked europeans. Not recommended for prudes: http://www.domai.com/news/index.html [domai.com]
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With large natural tracts of land, no less. The floppier the better!
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Err..we're talking about women you want to lay...NOT having kids?!!??!
Ok, in the old days..you needed lots of offspring to help work the farm, but these days...not so much.
I guess some people want them, but I'd rather not have an anchor on my life dragging down my finances and time for fun activities...like getting laid!!
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Actually BS is a good source of information, because they pointed-out YOU could do the same thing at home (filter the tap water) rather than waste money on bottled.
Bottled water costs about $3 per gallon, whereas my home filter does the same job for only a 1-2 pennies.
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Pssshhh... (Score:4, Funny)
Long arms? Give me a hourglass shaped babe with plenty of T&A, thanks. :)
Re:Pssshhh... (Score:5, Funny)
Any gal you marry will end up with plenty of A, no matter how much she starts with.
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Yeah, but after the first year or so, she isn't going to share it with you anyway, so what difference does it make?
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Slashdot needs a 'sad but true' moderation.
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The point of the study seems to be that that's what you say, but not what you actually pick.
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I'm willing to say I'm an exception to the results, as I KNOW I prefer my women with some curves as opposed to skinny ones. Not really big girls, but I prefer the girls more in the 125-140 lbs range rather than the 100-115 lbs range.
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A gf in college was in the 130-140 range. And 4'10".
The perfect study (Score:3, Funny)
Nice job.
Next up, a study on perfect female breast size.
"No ma'am, I'm not oogling you, I'm conducting a study"
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"Yes, I know beauty is only skin-deep; did you think I was admiring your lungs?"
bad survey. (Score:3, Informative)
God, yet another insignificant study without enough information.
96 models, and a sample set of 94 (plus some number in the Hong Kong group).
At least it leads to their site, which appears that it may do a better job at getting a good sample group.
It, of course, can't take into account moods, personal history, etc. Like, the most beautiful woman in the survey could look just like my exgirlfriend/exwife. It's very likely I'd immediately score her lower.
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It takes into account personal history via sample size.
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It doesn't look like the same size provides an adequate room for edge cases to not skew the results.
At one company, I did scored ratings. It seemed like a big complicated system, but it boiled down to be pretty simple. People were voting 1 to 5 on a set of pictures. There were thousands of sets handled by the system at any given point, and multiple millions of votes stored in our logs.
In the first 10 results, we could have a tremendously skewed result. Say a
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Studies like this are why statistics should be part of high school.
Basically, any time you've got a sample less than 1500, disregard the study. There's too much drift, your p-numbers are all pretty much random, and it's just not good data or sound practice. (I meant fifteen hundred. That's a general baseline.)
Also, without qualifying bars the stats are meaningless.
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Send us your young tall thin large breasted women!
Re:bad survey. (Score:4, Funny)
What the statue of liberty should have said
Long arms? (Score:3, Funny)
How long have these arms to be?
Long enough to hand me a beer over from the fridge?
one of these days (Score:2)
one of these days they will stop trying to figure out what makes some women more attractive than others and will finally start figuring out how to get everyone one or two of those.
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no problem, travel to some place money is scarce. bring some money. you will be found attractive and have women.
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or you could even go to Pakistan, there is a flood there right now, think of the victims!
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Did They Account for Individual Taste? (Score:3, Interesting)
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short? the average height of women in the USA is 5'4".
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short? the average height of women in the USA is 5'4".
You will have people talking about 'short' guys who are average or above average height. As a result, if you fall near average, you have to state your height as exaggerated in order to avoid being labeled 'short'.
I think there is also a disconnect in referring to height in a numeric manner. It's interesting when you look at it from a statistical standpoint, I've seen people refer to guys who were 5'9" and 5'10" as short.
You will hear people refer to
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I think there is also a disconnect in referring to height in a numeric manner. It's interesting when you look at it from a statistical standpoint, I've seen people refer to guys who were 5'9" and 5'10" as short.
In some parts of the country, that is short.
I'm 6'2" - just barely. My brother is 6'3", maybe a little more. My boss is 6'2" and thick (280lb or so). My best friend is 6'5". My dad is 6'1" (or was before he started getting old). Other friends and acquaintances are anywhere from 5'11 up through 6'6" and various builds (most around the 6'1" height).
My FIL is one of the "shorter" men I know - at 5'10".
No, it doesn't have much to do with the group I hang with: out here, people really are taller and bigger than
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I'll second all of t
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I'll second all of the above. The country was settled by people of different ethnicities area by area. California and New England are shorter than the people in the midwest.
Ironically, I'm in the Midwest, but my family is from New York. My wife (from the Midwest) is short. The generation since my grandfathers and on, all the males have been over 6' - mixed Irish/Italian on one side, and "so American I've been here since the Mayflower"/Irish/English/Dutch on the other. So I'm exceptionally tall for people from where I come from, but yes: Midwesterners are a taller breed, generally.
Most of the genetics around here seem to be of mixed German/Norwegian and a bit of Irish thrown in
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I'm 5'11" and from western New York. Around there, I feel at least average in height all of the time, and occasionally feel tall depending on who's around me. I never feel particularly short, though I know a lot of people who are taller than me.
Conversely, I've been living in Southern California for a couple of years, and I feel short *all the time* there. So what I'm saying is I have a contradictory anecdote - you say at 6'1" you feel tall in California, but having lived in California I'd say you had an un
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short? the average height of women in the USA is 5'4".
Does this average include non-white Americans? There is definitely a disparity among races.
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that is average across all U.S. female citizens. 5-8" is average for "white" women.
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"I think it's because the short ones are usually zesty packets of spunk"
Don't use that complement in the UK.
Distrubing (Score:4, Funny)
if...
girls that are 5'4 or below == short ones
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short ones == zesty packets of spunk
That would mean that you just said:
I've always had a thing for zesty packets of spunk.
on Slashdot.
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They seem to have better proportions IMO. Taller, fit women seem to get that "lanky" look.
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Well, it does make it easier to manhandle them in the bed which is fun...I mean, you can pick them up, move them around...do some positions that you just can't do with a bigger girl..unless you are a body buil
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Oddly enough, I also fascinated by smaller than average sized breasts. Whenever I see a young slightly flat chested 20-somethi
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Perhaps, healthy eating keeps women (and men) more attractive and healthy as they get into their 30s, 40s and beyond. I might actually try out a few of their weird recipes, at least for an occasional meal.
Well, considering most of the vitamins that keep skin and cells healthy come from fruits and vegetables, I could see that being the case. On the other hand, I would bet that most of those people have a pretty hard time building a significant amount of muscle, and many of them may be iron deficient. I know that one of my close friends eats almost a pound of meat a day, if not more. He certainly doesn't have the healthiest skin, but man, he packs on muscle like a madman when he works out.
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One grain like cereal that vegans and vegetarians so
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SCIENCE! (Score:4, Insightful)
Nulliparous (Score:2)
Na'vi? (Score:2)
HEY! (Score:5, Funny)
Listen!
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That makes sense... (Score:5, Insightful)
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I think tall, short-armed women or short, long-armed women would look kind of odd.
Exactly - the second group would have a similar ratio to chimpanzees. Not sure what the first group would look like but probably any quadruped.
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I think tall, short-armed women or short, long-armed women would look kind of odd.
Not sure what the first group would look like...
Tyrannosaurus Sex: A lizard who is a tyrant of your sex life.
Sounds like good news for female boxers? (Score:2)
Shocking (Score:3, Funny)
"...found that across cultural divides young, tall and long armed women were considered the most attractive."
Get out! Men don't like old, short, stubby-armed women?
Sacre-bleu!
Dave.cpp (Score:5, Funny)
Actually Dave [thedailywtf.com] has already figured out the optimal formula for calculating and ranking a woman's beauty.
I appreciate large derrieres... (Score:5, Funny)
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None of us can refute that
Re:I appreciate large derrieres... (Score:4, Funny)
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Why, even men of european descent must loudly declare appreciation for women of these proportions!
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with a small waist
vs
with an itty-bitty waist
You couldn't do better?
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Reminds me of former Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz's witticism about how African-American males enjoy comfortable footwear, satisfying sex, and heated bathroom facilities.
And furthermore... (Score:2, Funny)
"The study...found that across cultural divides young, tall and long armed women were considered the most attractive."
"Unt zee gymungous getitzenhooters alzo ve haf found to be zort uff nice.
Herr Professor Lance Wagstaffenstein, University of Norbnokkerschweet at Munchen
AN Answer, not THE Answer (Score:2)
This is a very common topic in social psychology experiments. Many that are published fall prey to an error of calling the example selected most to be 'attractive'. It's more correct to say that the most common answer is the most common opinion of attractiveness. In the press to prove their point, they ignore the fact that a less common answer is also an opinion of attractiveness, just to fewer people. Just because more guys like the hard, bony ones with corners so sharp they bruise you and threaten to poke
And yet... (Score:3, Insightful)
Not surprising (Score:4, Funny)
Corsets (Score:2)
As someone who admires ladies in corsets, I've known about the waist to hip ratio for years :-)
What is interesting is this may be inbred, because that ratio has been found to indicate the most fertile women.
Young!? (Score:3, Insightful)
There is a reason Steely Dan doesn't sing a song titled "Hey 39".
There are also plenty of good biological and evolutionary reasons for this.
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Previously all evidence was anecdotal. Now they have a reference they can cite.
Three numbers (Score:2)
36 - 24 - 36
Pop culture. (Score:3, Insightful)
It seems to me the scope of this study was too limited. What they've defined as attractive seems dictated by celebrity culture. This means excessively thin women who then have to compensate by getting plastic surgery, especially in the US. My impression of many European, excluding England, and South American celebrities is that they're far healthier-looking than Americans.
Hell, look at Japanese illustrations and, excluding some fetishes, the distilled attractive female is generally well-endowed. I don't mean necessarily having large breasts, but nice hips and a fairly curvaceous body. And from personal, admittedly anecdotal, evidence guys are more immediately turned on by a woman with more shape, even if she trends towards being heavy, than they would ever be by someone who's thin.
Unfortunately, the ideal nowadays, for women, seems to be sickeningly thin. And it's generally quite bad in Asia. I'm convinced there's a serious anorexia problem being overlooked out there.
The ideal figure must be aspirational. Looking at classical paintings women were always depicted as a bit heavyset. Generally, it was a considered a sign of wealth given that most didn't have the means to eat so well. Today, in the developed world who doesn't have access to plenty of food. Hell, people who are often considered poor manage to be overweight. So the goal now is to be thin. In some cases it's even been associated with wealth, the argument being that the poor don't have access to good food or have the luxury of being able to work out.
Waste of Research Money (Score:2)
They could have saved a lot of time and man-hours and just asked me.
Across cultures? (Score:2)
Considering the pervasiveness of American culture and movies, the statement about "across cultures" is meaningless.
Young, tall, long arms.... (Score:2)
...and lots of orange hair.
An orangutang!!!
Young orangutang supermodels coming to your neck of the woods soon....
Mark
Not me. (Score:2)
found that across cultural divides young, tall and long armed women were considered the most attractive
Not me.
I like the short, fat, ugly bitches with T-rex arms.
In the words of Sir Mix-a-Lot (Score:2)
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You can read aura! Dam you!
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You gotta look for thick ankles too...that is a pretty sure sign she's gonna have good potential to blimp on ya.
Thick wrists are a decent sign too...but thick ankles, you gotta watch for those!!
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