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New York To Spend $27.5 Million Uncapitalizing Street Signs 322

250,000 street signs in New York City feature street names in capital letters only, which is not the national standard. Having no other issues on the table, The New York City Department of Transportation has decided to fix the problem and put up proper signs featuring both capital and lower-case letters at a cost of $27.5 million. The Transportation Department hopes to have the job completed by 2018 with 11,000 of the most important improperly capitaled signs fixed by the end of the year. Catastrophe averted.
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New York To Spend $27.5 Million Uncapitalizing Street Signs

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  • by Spiflicator ( 64611 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @12:52PM (#33761140)
    Certainly wont pull in anywhere close to the cost of replacements, but I imagine authentic street signs for particular streets would sell for a decent price.
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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @12:53PM (#33761142)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by MozeeToby ( 1163751 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @12:57PM (#33761230)

    Yeah, they could give each citizen back... oh. $3.50. Why, you could buy a couple of 20oz bottles of Mt.Dew for that much.

  • Re:Yeah... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Swarley ( 1795754 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @12:58PM (#33761232)

    As far as the economic woes, seems like as good a way to create jobs as any. It's basically just stimulus money that happens to be taking care of a long term issue at the same time.

  • Hyperbole, much? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Guppy06 ( 410832 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @01:00PM (#33761292)

    FTFA:

    "The Federal Highway Administration said the new sign standards improve safety because they allow drivers to identify words more quickly, allowing them to swiftly bring their eyes back to the road."

    Yeah, pointless government waste.

  • Re:Yeah... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 01, 2010 @01:01PM (#33761320)

    Because New York City contributes money to the war in Afghanistan. And $27.5 million is really a difference maker there.

  • by markdowling ( 448297 ) <mark DOT dowling AT gmail DOT com> on Friday October 01, 2010 @01:03PM (#33761370)

    Because who cares if an ageing driver population can quickly scan signs and return their eyes to the road in an urban area, right?

  • Re:Budget? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by canajin56 ( 660655 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @01:24PM (#33761810)
    Oh, you're right, 100% of that money is coming from the State's fund for road sign replacement. NYC already has to replace 8000 signs a year due to wear and tear, or theft. They have elected to replace them with new signs, instead of identical signs. So while 100% of that is state money, 0% of it is new money. The Slashdot summary is actually another lie, like 99% of all Slashdot summaries. It's like if I decide "diet time" and so declare to my cat that next time we're out of frozen hamburger patties, I will buy the $10 box of extra lean patties, instead of the $9 box of medium patties. My decision cost me $1, not $10! In this instance, it doesn't even cost NYC more money for mixed-case signs, so their decision cost them $0, and Slashdot took $0 and turned it into millions, because outrage at government spending gives Slashbots a hard-on.
  • Re:Awesome (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Volante3192 ( 953645 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @01:24PM (#33761814)

    It's called perspective.

    People have no qualms whining about the $50 billion the Department of Education is budgeted.
    But dare to say the $650 billion Department of Defence budget could get cut a little, you're suddenly weakening the country, giving in to the terrorists and a very very bad man.

    Cutting $50 billion out of a $1,000 billion deficit is peanuts, though.

  • Re:Yeah... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by JonySuede ( 1908576 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @01:27PM (#33761870) Journal
    I don't agree with you, it is not a good a way to create jobs as any. Replacing working sings is really much a textbook example of the Broken window fallacy
  • Re:Awesome (Score:3, Insightful)

    by sycodon ( 149926 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @01:59PM (#33762466)

    I'm not buying the argument that the budget can't be cut. And yes, I'd start with the Education Department. It teaches no one and is the primary cause of regulator burden on schools.

    And Entitlements should not be off the table. Lots can be done to reduce costs such as phasing in higher retirement ages for SS, take a hard look at the current practice of SS being used as a replacement for welfare, etc.

    Other things like a across the board freeze on Federal pay and a freeze on hiring are common sense things to do.

    Yes, some things that many people would agree are good would be cut, but there are many, many more things that people agree are good that we don't do now and can't afford to do.

    And we probably should close the Supermax prisons. Instead, open a second Gitmo on some island somewhere and make'm live in tents. I'd suggest that they be made to scavenge for food themselves, but I'm sure the ACLU would shit bricks as well as the entire Democratic establishment.

  • Re:Awesome (Score:3, Insightful)

    by sycodon ( 149926 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @02:10PM (#33762686)

    That's what phasing in means.

    And yes, SS is a Ponzi scheme. All the more reason to ditch it (phase it out) in favor of some kind of plan that relies more of private investment. I shudder to think what I would have saved up if that 6% of my paycheck had gone into a properly managed account (which means not in high risk junk bonds, mortgages, etc.) for the past 25 years.

  • by Americano ( 920576 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @02:32PM (#33763076)

    60 mph = 88 feet per second.

    Say the new signs get your eyes back on the road half a second quicker - that's 44 *less* feet that you've traveled without watching the cars in front of you.

    Don't think a lot can happen in that 44 feet you traveled in that extra half second?

    Stopping distance for a car going 60 mph (assuming 1.5s reaction time + avg braking distance of ~250 feet, multiple sources found through google report that this seems to be the average consensus, yielding ~350-400 feet as stopping distance on a flat/level/dry surface, for an auto traveling at 60mph.

    So that 44 feet is about 10% of your stopping distance - a 10% larger margin of safety every time you look away from the road and read a road sign. That's not trivial, especially when you consider the hundreds of thousands of vehicles travelling around NYC. If it helps prevent 2 minor accidents a day, that's lower emergency services costs, slightly lower insurance rates, less money spent on road repairs, and less money spent on average by people repairing their vehicles. If the science behind the studies is sound, it does add up in the aggregate.

  • Re:Budget? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by cgenman ( 325138 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @02:34PM (#33763100) Homepage

    Why is it that whenever something is wrong in one area, clearly the solution is to not spend any money anywhere else until that problem is fixed?

  • Re:Yeah... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Alanbly ( 1433229 ) <alanbly@gmail.com> on Friday October 01, 2010 @02:56PM (#33763414) Homepage
    It's the broken window principal and has been demonstrated to work. And they'd be replacing the signs anyway, they're just changing the case on the new signs.
  • Re:Budget? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by BarryJacobsen ( 526926 ) on Friday October 01, 2010 @03:35PM (#33763898) Homepage

    Why is it that whenever something is wrong in one area, clearly the solution is to not spend any money anywhere else until that problem is fixed?

    Because THIS problem affects ME. Don't you know who I AM?!?!?

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