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Piracy Space Idle

Pirate Parties Plan To Shoot Site Into Orbit 301

palmerj3 writes "It is almost four years ago that The Pirate Bay announced they wanted to buy the micronation of Sealand, so they could host their site without having to bother about copyright law — an ambitious plan that turned out to be unaffordable. This week, Pirate Parties worldwide started brainstorming about a similarly ambitious plan. Instead of founding their own nation, they want to shoot a torrent site into orbit."

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Pirate Parties Plan To Shoot Site Into Orbit

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  • Uhhhhh. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rotide ( 1015173 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:02AM (#33973686)
    Isn't this all just ignoring the real problem? It doesn't matter if you buy a nation, or buy an island, or buy a satellite. You have to get your internet pipe from some external source of which isn't in your "bubble of safety". You could setup a pirate planet, but if you want to connect back to earth you still need a transceiver based in a country not owned and operated by you. Great! You can't be prosecuted for doing what you want to do, but no one can access it.
  • From tfa (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:09AM (#33973794)

    The TFA mentioned the worry of having a "bandwidth provider" getting a take-down notice, thus pulling the site offline. How feasible would it be to simply have the micro satellite broadcast via RF the torrent list? It would cut out the need for a provider on the ground. All the PBers would need would be a way to recv the signal and input it into the computer.

    It still doesn't solve the issue of "who would launch it into the sky" for them. Maybe China?

  • by tverbeek ( 457094 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:13AM (#33973868) Homepage

    The location of the hardware where the data is stored is only a part of the challenge they face. Whether you put it on a platform in international waters, on a seagoing vessel, in orbit, or even on a sovereign planetoid, for it to be of use to terra-bound, law-bound consumers you need a communications link to that site, and one end of that link is going to be subject to the laws of whatever state the consumer is in.

  • Re:Or: (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Darkness404 ( 1287218 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:16AM (#33973910)
    ...Except for the fact to actually use the crap you paid for you usually have to break the law. Want to actually -watch- that DVD without having to watch ads? You usually have to use something like libdvdcss to break the encryption, same thing with format transfer. Games are often times nearly unplayable without cracks and the like.

    I have no problems buying media, but its become to the point where in order to actually use what you paid for you end up breaking the law in some way or another.

    When pirates not only are offering a free copy but a better copy, the sales for the legitimate copy will naturally slow.
  • Re:Great idea! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by AtomicJake ( 795218 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:16AM (#33973914)

    It may come to that. It occurs to me that at some point governments are going to have to agree on methods to control extra-governmental forces like the Pirate Party/Bay, Wikileaks and even Al Qaeda.

    Interesting try: Link two organizations that are fighting for freedom with one known for terror and bestiality. Do you have an agenda or did you just got too much tea?

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:19AM (#33973964)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • Re:Great idea! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Neil Boekend ( 1854906 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:20AM (#33973980)
    If you have followed the mess the Chinese [discovery.com] created, you'd guess the US probably wouldn't blow it up. They are still (and rightfully) angry about it.
    They could, however, allow it to stay in one piece and disable it some other way. Extremely powerfull and very directed EM radiation would fry all it's circuits for example.
  • Re:Cost (Score:4, Insightful)

    by eln ( 21727 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:25AM (#33974060)
    The proprietors of Sealand continue to live in fantasy land. All it is is an abandoned platform out in the ocean under British rule. Sure, they say it's independent, but the only reason they're allowed to carry on thinking that is because they aren't doing anything illegal enough for the Brits to make the effort to enforce their rule. If something like the Pirate Bay moved in, they would find the British reasserting themselves over that hunk of concrete pretty quick. Hell, the Brits traveled 8,000 miles to go to war with Argentina over the Falkland Islands, and the only thing worth anything there is a bunch of sheep. They'll have no problems sending a ship (or a cruise missile) a few miles out to sea to take out a platform.

    The only reason anyone would buy that pile of crap for a billion dollars is because they wanted to do some heavily illegal shit on it, otherwise they'd go buy some tropical private island for 1% of the cost. Since Britain would never allow that sort of thing to go down within their territorial waters, any potential buyer is essentially spending a metric assload of money for a fairy tale.
  • by Eivind ( 15695 ) <eivindorama@gmail.com> on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:28AM (#33974104) Homepage

    Here's the thing: every territory is under the rule of whomever shows up with the most guns.

    Laws are only tangentially relevant.

    A satelite, or a territory is dumb anyway, because to be any use, either one would need a link to the rest of the internet -- and they'd need to get that from some nation -- at which point the LINK is subject to the jurisdiction of that nation.

  • by RivenAleem ( 1590553 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:36AM (#33974220)

    This is why they need to launch it from a ship, which itself was built by another ship, from international waters.

    If that doesn't work, I have these schematics for a giant wooden badger.

  • Re:Great idea! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by circletimessquare ( 444983 ) <(circletimessquare) (at) (gmail.com)> on Thursday October 21, 2010 @01:00PM (#33975488) Homepage Journal

    I felt a great disturbance in the Torrent, as if millions of seeds suddenly cried out in 404 and were suddenly silenced. I fear something corporate has happened.

  • Re:Great idea! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by gumbi west ( 610122 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @01:49PM (#33976426) Journal

    I think the point is that there is no reason for NSA not to hack the satellite and use it for their own purposes--because, hey, free com satellite.

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