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Students Banned From Bringing Pencils To School 426

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mernilio writes "According to UPI: 'A Massachusetts school district superintendent said a memo banning sixth graders from carrying pencils was written without district approval. North Brookfield School District interim Superintendent Gordon Noseworthy said Wendy Scott, one of two sixth-grade teachers at North Brookfield Elementary School, did not get approval from administrators before sending the memo to all sixth-grade parents, the Worcester Telegram & Gazette reported Thursday. The memo said students would no longer be allowed to bring writing implements to school. It said pencils would be provided for students in class and any students caught with pencils or pens after Nov. 15 would face disciplinary action for having materials 'to build weapons.'"

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  • by Abstrackt (609015) on Wednesday November 24 2010, @10:24AM (#34330692)
    I'm not sure a sixth-grader has the arm strength required for such a feat. What I'm curious about though, is why the teacher felt this memo was necessary in the first place; TFA doesn't mention this.
  • by ronocdh (906309) on Wednesday November 24 2010, @10:44AM (#34331002)

    What I'm curious about though, is why the teacher felt this memo was necessary in the first place; TFA doesn't mention this.

    When I was in grade school, we used to fling sharpened pencils like crossbow bolts, using several rubber bands for higher tension. It wasn't uncommon to draw blood from these toys... and there would be quite a firefight whenever the teacher turned his or her back toward the class to write on the board. So, I think that's why the summary mentions "materials to build weapons," but it's still a stupid idea to ban pencils.

  • by PitaBred (632671) <slashdotNO@SPAMpitabred.dyndns.org> on Wednesday November 24 2010, @10:46AM (#34331032) Homepage

    If you take apart the cheap-ass Bic mechanical pencils, use a rubber band in a slit in the eraser and then wrapped to the pencil clip, you have yourself a pocket "gun". [instructables.com]

    I'm betting the teacher was tired of that.

  • by Gordonjcp (186804) on Wednesday November 24 2010, @11:06AM (#34331396) Homepage

    As Boortz has said, sending your children to a government school in the U.S. is tantamount to child abuse.
    ... and the public-educated pupils from American schools are the clever ones. Private schools in America appear to just exist to take money from parents, and store the children during the day.

    A while ago I used to help out with an ESOL (English for Speakers of Other Languages) class - we had American exchange students. Students who had made their way to university from state schools in the US read and wrote at about the equivalent of a UK 14- to 15-year-old. Students from a private school background were essentially retarded. They managed to read at a UK high-school level with some encouragement, and struggled to write at that level.

  • by Ogive17 (691899) on Wednesday November 24 2010, @11:31AM (#34331886)
    My mom had to pay someone to put her sewing machine back together after I was left alone with it for about 20 minutes at 3 years of age... twice.

    No point in take the leg off a chair, just use the entire chair as a weapon.
  • by Jesus_666 (702802) on Wednesday November 24 2010, @11:56AM (#34332360)
    You did. Explicitly. To quote you:

    Actually, I am pretty sure that measure is to counter violence, but since when has "weapons control" laws ever resulted in decreased violence? [...] But does that stop murders and mayhem? Nope! It just making the killings more gruesome and painful.

    You explicitly said that strict gun laws did not decrease the amount of violence found in Japan and that it did in fact make the murders committed there more gruesome.

    Not to mention that declaring all non-perfect solutions to be of negligible effect is a fallacy in itself. We may be unable to completely stop murder but that doesn't mean that measures taken to reduce homicide rates (such as making firearms less available) are automatically pointless.

  • Re:You know... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Zak3056 (69287) on Wednesday November 24 2010, @12:24PM (#34332820) Homepage Journal

    As long as everybody is equally unhappy, then things are fair. What would be unfair is for certain people to be happy when others are not.

    Based on the rest of your post, I don't think you are advocating this position (merely stating why someone would do this). Still, I'd suggest that anyone who agrees with this notion to read Harrison Bergeron [tnellen.com], where "equality of outcome" is the central theme. This is where we will eventually be led.

  • by Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) on Wednesday November 24 2010, @12:24PM (#34332822)
    At my high school during deer and duck seasons in the fall, there were enough rifles and shotguns in the student parking lot to start a small war. There was also an ethic that said using anything but your fists in a fight was the ultimate cowardly act. Sadly, neither of those is true today. Now, get off my lawn.
  • by T Murphy (1054674) on Wednesday November 24 2010, @01:41PM (#34334166) Journal
    Technically suicide can be construed as murder, in which case Japan is well ahead of us with 24.4/100k compared to our 11.1/100k, the difference being more than enough to make up for the gap of 4.6 in our murder rates. (also from Wikipedia)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 24 2010, @07:23PM (#34337956)

    Yeah- it was the 'racist system' that got her knocked up 9 times. ::roll eyes::

  • by Alan R Light (1277886) on Thursday November 25 2010, @09:36AM (#34342122)

    Like edawstwin above, I attended both public and private schools in the U.S. - in fact, three of each.

    While there is truth to the assertion that some private schools are much better than others, this doesn't take into account how bad many government schools are. I attended one private school that is one of the best in the United States, and another which was the Baptist-run type referred to, with underqualified teachers. Despite this handicap, that Baptist school still performed better than the local government schools, at least up through 8th grade. They just didn't have funds for proper laboratory work, as they only charged - in 2010 dollars, about $2000/year. However, every single student at that school could read and do basic math, which by itself is an improvement over the government schools.

    Perhaps the British author of the post several stages up is the victim of another phenomenon: namely, he doesn't see the many students from government schools who dropped out or never learned to read because they don't apply to universities in England. A private education is an indication that a family is interested in education, and so the children are more likely to attempt to avail themselves of educational opportunities, even when they are something of a stretch. In school districts where the residents are relatively wealthy the schools tend to be reasonably good, so these already-advantaged students are also more likely to attend the government schools, again skewing the results.

    As one last aside, note that since 1970 real spending per pupil at government schools in the U.S. has more than doubled, with - so far - nothing to show for it. But then, as John Taylor Gatto has noted, government schools in the U.S. have not failed. In fact, they have fulfilled their mission perfectly. We should be aware, however, that their mission never included educating students.

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