Dad Hires In-Game 'Assassins' To Get His Son To Stop Gaming 338
An anonymous reader writes
"An irritated father of a 23-year-old gamer hired 'In-game assassins' to attempt to make his son quit playing video games and have him get a job. 'Feng's idea was that his son would get bored of playing games if he was killed every time he logged on, and that he would start putting more effort into getting a job.' While the son recently had a job at a software development company he quit because he decided he didn't like the work."
Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
No need for that, just kick him out.
He will find a job when he needs a place to live and food to eat.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes, finding a job when you don't have an address, money, food or means will be a snap!
The US street are littered with kids whose parent did that instead of actual get professional help.
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Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
"You have a month or two to find a job, after that time you'll either be gainfully employed and enjoying your hobby on your off hours, or you will be sleeping on the concrete and won't have a computer."
If the kid chooses the latter, that's his fault.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
his was in China though. And the Dad evidently gave up after the kid said "No, I'm STILL not going to look for a job." Sounds like the problem may have been lack of tough love.
Sounds like it might be 421 aka Little Emperor Syndrome [wikipedia.org] at work.
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Someone give this guy mod points. If you have one child, and you're entire purpose in life is to have a successful son, it's awfully hard to just kick them out and sever ties. Even if that would be the best course of action.
One definite advantage of a big family is that it easy to boot out the sociopath who is just mooching off of everyone else. Tough if you are stuck with one of them as your only off-spring.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:4, Insightful)
Don't give him internet access at home and don't give him any money to spend at the cafes there. If he wants to play his games he came pay for them himself.
Just cut his internet access off after 10pm (Score:5, Funny)
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Just cut his internet access off after 10pm...oh wait, he might try to drug you so he can get his internet on.
Or hire an "in-real-life" assassin...
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Kid's probably too old to work at Foxconn now. Heck to be 23 and not FORCED into a job in China means he's pretty well to do.
Re:Just kick him out.(you don't understand) (Score:4, Insightful)
The problem is loosing your child. China's one child policy has left much of the country with families with one child (little emperors) that know that they can just leave there parents which for a Chinese family is a horrible idea, unthinkable, especially a son. So you have children that know they have presure that threat to disown their parents as extreme leverage. So the "Just kick him out" is truly a scary , not to be considered because of the consequences action. No wonder the father took indirect steps to make his son want to stop game playing. The Chinese do things indirectly and communication is an art in a way that we don't fully understand. So assuming the same value system, and behaviours we would take in the West have any resonance in the East.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
The US street are littered with kids whose parent did that instead of actual get professional help.
Really? Where? Reference? Honestly, I've never heard that parents kicking deadbeat children out of their homes was a serious source of homelessness.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:4, Funny)
The US street are littered with kids whose parent did that instead of actual get professional help.
Really? Where? Reference? Honestly, I've never heard that parents kicking deadbeat children out of their homes was a serious source of homelessness.
They're all in Portland. Also, most of them deserve it and would not contribute to society in any meaningful way regardless of whether they're on the streets or in their parents' homes.
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Are they the ones walking around asking for money, with the big ass golden retriever, and the $300+ hiking backpacks? Those guys got on my nerves.
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The US street are littered with kids whose parent did that instead of actual get professional help.
Really? Where? Reference?
Honestly, I've never heard that parents kicking deadbeat children out of their homes was a serious source of homelessness.
They're all in Portland. Also, most of them deserve it and would not contribute to society in any meaningful way regardless of whether they're on the streets or in their parents' homes.
Are you saying that organizing drum circles or juggling in the park for tips doesn't contribute to society? Man, you're a total sell-out, man. You used to be cool. BTW, can I crash on your couch tonight?
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Informative)
Coincidentally I am in Portland.
"most of them deserve it and would not contribute to society in any meaningful way" Fuck you, you poor excuse for a limp wristed cum stain.
YOU and people like YOU are clueless fucks that would watch society burn to the ground to hold onto you belief instead of thinking. They need help. Most haven't even been taught how to plan or work, then suddenly they are on the streets becasue they are lazy. The do nothing parent scratch their head and can't figure out why ignoring a child for 18 years has lead to them being 'lazy'.
I lived in Portland for many years. Hell, I hung out with some of those kids, and even had roommates who were one step up the ladder (renting a room in a shithole on 82nd street). The fact is, they're lazy fucks. There's all kinds of resources to get them food, shelter, and jobs, but they'd rather get high instead, and most of those programs require that you remain clean. Also, the vast majority of them simply go back to stay with their parents during the winter months -- notice you only see them around in the spring and summer?
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There's all kinds of resources to get them food, shelter, and jobs, but they'd rather get high instead, and most of those programs require that you remain clean.
That's your problem right there. Stop moralizing and start helping. A drug addict with a home to go to is better for everyone than a homeless drug addict.
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Indeed. I grew up in D.C. and always wondered why homeless people didn't migrate south for the winter. Then I moved to South Florida and found out that a lot of them do.
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I lived in Portland for many years. Hell, I hung out with some of those kids, and even had roommates who were one step up the ladder (renting a room in a shithole on 82nd street). The fact is, they're lazy fucks. There's all kinds of resources to get them food, shelter, and jobs, but they'd rather get high instead, and most of those programs require that you remain clean. Also, the vast majority of them simply go back to stay with their parents during the winter months -- notice you only see them around in the spring and summer?
i'll be you have lots of black friends too. do you keep your women in binders?
Wow, you sure make a lot of assumptions. For the record, I vote in the following order (depending on my choices at the ballot): Justice Party -> Green Party -> Democrat -> Snoopy. Anyway, it's important to note that we're not talking about the mentally ill homeless population here, we're talking about able-bodied, able-minded upper middle class kids who decided they'd rather panhandle and do drugs than do something productive with their lives. Most of them are not even *really* homeless, they ca
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Lettered was probably the wrong word. I did not mean to imply its a serious source, but I use to help those kids. So the idea that you can toss someone out and that will fix it annoys me.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
The US street are littered with kids whose parent did that instead of actual get professional help.
No, they aren't. They are littered with people who have schizophrenia and other mental illness, but cannot be compelled to take their meds. This dude isn't hearing voices, and he doesn't seem to be self-treating his "illness" with alcohol or heroin.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
They are littered with people who have schizophrenia and other mental illness, but cannot be compelled to take their meds. This dude isn't hearing voices, and he doesn't seem to be self-treating his "illness" with alcohol or heroin.
Have you ever been homeless? I suspect not because that's a load of bullish. I have been homeless. The streets are littered with unfortunate souls who for one reason or another wound up on the streets and either can't get a foothold back into modern civilisation. There are the deranged, lazy, addicts, etc who won't work, but these are a SMALL portion of the homeless population. I guess you think "all niggers are lazy thieves"? No, of course not, that's racist? Then why the fuck would you think in much the same way about homeless people?
I couldn't get along with my abusive step dad. Out on the streets at 17, despite having been running a software business since age 15 (selling my wares on Compuserve and other online services), I found it near impossible to get a job doing ANYTHING, even cleaning toilets. Homeless are thought to be thieves, murderers, rapists, etc -- They must be really horrible people if they have no place to live, they did something to deserve that life -- WRONG. Maybe some have, but it's not the majority. The majority I've encountered made bad financial decisions, or specialized in a field that became obsolete, simply had a home foreclosure while being laid-off and unable to find work. Entire families may seek help from other relatives, even giving legal guardianship of their kids to relatives until they themselves are homeless. Sometimes they have no one to turn to, the shelter is full of folks like this. What did I do to deserve homelessness? What dysfunction caused me to live on the streets? I provoked an abusive man to keep him from abusing my two younger brothers. My mother finally wised up when he started abusing them, originally thinking that I was just an ungrateful problem child, and thus was the black sheep of the family. My other relatives thought it would be better for me to live on the streets and learn "tough love" than to give me refuge.
In short: Get bent you ignorant prick, you're pulling shit out of your arse, typical slashdot armchair sociologist, you're worse than any homeless person I've ever met.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:4, Interesting)
The majority I've encountered made bad financial decisions,
This is true of every homeless person I've ever met; every single one of them (anecdotal) had problems managing money. A lot of them know how to earn it, I knew one guy who could manage a team and make $2000 for himself in a single week doing construction.
He spent it all. In general, if you give a homeless guy $10, he'll spend it immediately. If you give a homeless guy $100, he'll call his friends and spend it immediately. If you give him $1000, he'll have it spent by the end of the week. He might even do something silly like stay in a hotel, instead of renting an apartment.
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He might even do something silly like stay in a hotel, instead of renting an apartment.
Speaking as a landlord, if a homeless guy is looking for an apartment, and his credentials are "haven't had a home or job for 12 months, but some guy just gave me a grand", he's not going to be able to get an apartment. It costs money (advertising, legal costs) to arrange for a new lease. You're not going to pay that just to get someone in who can only afford the place for a couple of months.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
I guess you think "all niggers are lazy thieves"? No, of course not, that's racist? Then why the fuck would you think in much the same way about homeless people?
From [pbs.org]:
What are the greatest causes of homelessness? ...
For singles, the three most commonly cited causes of homelessness are:
* Substance abuse
* Lack of affordable housing
* Mental illness
Guess PBS is racist now?
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Informative)
I think those with a negative prejudice against the homeless should be forced to play "The Bum Game": http://www.globalgamenetwork.com/bumgame/ . And not be allowed to stop until they win, or recant.
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Owing to my own stupid decisions as a teenager, I've had to obtain a job without a fixed address and about $10 in my pocket. The guy was working as an IT professional, and obviously wasn't overly concerned about his finances, as he simply quit because he didn't like the job. I'd give the kid 30 days to find a job or go couch surf somewhere else. The US is littered with people whose parents coddled them into adulthood and have no idea how or desire to deal with real life. It's time for the school of hard kno
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
My parents let me stay at home between college and my first (post-college) job. That was a total of one week. They probably would have let me stay for longer, but I didn't want to. I like them just fine, but how precisely was I ever going to be an adult, have good relationship with women, and learn to take care of myself if I kept living with them? I love video games, but not so much that I can stand to play them all day, every day. After work and on weekends is more than enough time for that.
If this kid doesn't like his job, he needs to do what every responsible adult does: work it until you can get a better one somewhere else. You're never going to get a good job unless you're really lucky or you work through the bad or mediocre ones first.
I haven't liked every job I have worked. Some I downright hated, but they were a means to an end. Now, I have house, cars and family of my own, and my parents get to enjoy the rest of their lives without me hanging around mooching off them.
That is not to say I am not in favor of using your parents as a springboard to get you there. If you truly can't find a job, you need to do what you have to do. There's no shame in living at your parents' home to get back on your feet, just as long as that is what you are trying to do. In this person's case, I'm not sure he's being an adult.
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Yeah great, wonderful.. That was your personal experience back when the economy was booming.. Your experience is out of date, just like your assumptions.
So what do you say to those who didn't have your opportunities? Are they to spend the rest of their days being 'punished' for that, unable to get a job because no one will employ a homeless person? Dont be surprised if one of those people raids your family's home for food/money/valuables..
You can preach about responsibility all you want, but without opportunity to exercise it, the argument is worthless.
TFA was about a 23 year old child who decided that he didn't like his job and quit it, knowing that he had the safety net of his parents' house to fall back on. That isn't the story of someone who didn't have opportunity, it's the story of someone who decided it was easier to fly back to the nest than to build his own.
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An eagle tosses it's young out of the nest not to kill or out of malice but to teach them how to fly on their own.
This guy has all of the things you list but isn't interested in employment if he is playing games instead of looking for work. And since he is 23 his parents can't force him to get "professional" help.
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An eagle tosses it's young out of the nest not to kill or out of malice but to teach them how to fly on their own.
When humans try this, it doesn't kill the young. Probably because we don't build our nests high enough off the ground. I'll leave it up to you to determine whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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I would assume he has friends and some money in the bank from living at home.
I did this, so can he.
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Find a job you don't like, then while you have a positive cash flow, look for a job that better 'suits' you.
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My parents coddled my brother and he was a live-at-home deadbeat until he was 37 years old. And he took money from my 70+ year-old retired father until he was 43. I finally told my dad that if you want him to grow up, you have to just cut him off. Tell him he's done in 6 months and that you are reducing the amount you give him by 1/6 every month until it's zero.
Amazingly(?!?), my brother got a job (a really good job) and is now on his own doing great, by far the best ever in his life. And he's growing u
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Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
Not always - it's the curse of overqualified.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Funny)
Indeed, how will he ever conceal the fact that he can write software? He's doomed.
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It used to be easy to conceal the fact you are a code monkey, until they invented the banana test... It can't be fooled.
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And since when is "education or experience" required for software development?
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You don't use a 'resume' to get a job at a gas station.
You fill out an 'application'.
On which it has an area 'List your previous three|five employers with their contact information.'
This is also assuming there's a gas station attendant position to be had. I'm not seeing many 'Help Wanted' signs these days, even in gas stations and fast food joints.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Informative)
Not always - it's the curse of overqualified.
Bullshit - I know people with Psych Ph. D's who work at Steak N' Shake.
Fast food places do not give a singe fuck what your education is; all they care about is that you're willing to do shit work for shit pay.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:4, Insightful)
Some managers don't like to hire people who seem overqualified in any way because they figure you will just end up quitting very soon when you find something better. They'd prefer someone like a recent immigrant who doesn't speak much English because they are less likely to be upwardly mobile or whatever. In any case they prefer to hire someone who seems like they will stick around for awhile after they have been trained and have figured out how to do the job. I think it's also helpful not too seem too intelligent.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
I think it's also helpful not too seem too intelligent.
23 years old, lives at home, and does nothing but play video games.
Yea, something tells me being seen as 'too intelligent' not a risk for this particular waste of space.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:4, Informative)
Actually, there is.... and I'm speaking from personal experience here. I've seen both fast food places *AND* gas stations decide to *NOT* hire a professional that they felt would leave them too quickly, needlessly wasting valuable time on training, when they can get another desperate and less over-qualified person for exactly the same amount of money, who is less likely to leave them right away.
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No one will hire you when you don't have an address.
Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Informative)
If the dude has the skills to get a job as a software dev, he can work as a gas station attendant, which would give him enough money to room up with someone and eat. From there, it's his problem.
Clearly you never tried living on your own on a gas station attendant's wage.
Clearly you never tried reading the post you are replying to that specifically stipulated *rooming with someone*. But you are correct even 40+ hours a week at a gas station (almost impossible to get since they prefer part-timers) is barely enough for rent, gas, and a little cheap (unhealthy) food. It sucks.
And clearly neither of you actually RTFA, which said it was in China. I'd wager you have no idea what a "gas station attendant" makes there, how much rent or food is in his town, or what the hiring preferences of Chinese gas station owners is.
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probably mom wouldn't let dad kick him out.
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+1 Insightful.
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Re:Just kick him out. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Mine was much the same way. I was allowed to live at home as long as I was going to school/college. Once I was done with my education, I had six months to move out. It worked well for both of us and it's the same thing I'll probably do when I have kids.
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My dad didn't mention the military, but essentially I was given the same options.
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How many students live at home while in college full time?
Many do. I did. People who go to college in their hometown aren't that uncommon.
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My son seemed to be exactly like this. He was living with me and had gotten us to allow his girlfriend to move in. After 6 months of broken promises regarding rent money and work around the house exchanged for missing rent, I finally blew a nut and told them both they had 90 days to get out. They're still living in my sister's basement, but he's now a manager at a sandwich chain and his girlfriend is being considered for management training with the same chain. That kick in the ass is what it took for him t
WTF? (Score:4, Insightful)
How does this crap get on Slashdot? Seriously! Can we possibly have some tech related news that promotes some form or interesting and educational discourse?
Please!
Recruitment Ad (Score:2)
Take a look at Slashdot’s demographics. You have people with time on their hands and tend to be good at games. This is obviously a recruitment ad - thinly disguised as a news story.
Welll, Now i know my new carruier (Score:5, Funny)
in game assassin. 200 bucks a day, plus expenses. I can even see the misspelled gold lettering on my office door.
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in game assassin. 200 bucks a day, plus expenses. I can even see the misspelled gold lettering on my office door.
And the professional association of in game assassins would be "The Assassins' Creed".
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Wait until you spend enough time at your new job that your parents decide they're sick of it, and unwittingly hire your coworkers to handle you.
$25 an hour (if he works 8 hour days for that $200) is not bad at all if he lacks better opportunities. U.S. federal minimum wage is $7.25.
In fact, his parents might ask him for jobs, if they're retired. He could become head of an online crime "family."
Just pay the son (Score:5, Insightful)
Because he thinks his son should make money instead of game all day, he hires someone to make money by gaming all day?
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Maybe his kid should look for a job as an in-game assassin? Apparently there's a market for that kind of thing.
If you kill him.. (Score:5, Funny)
If you kill him, he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
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Only if the game gives you death perks on respawn.
Useless (Score:5, Insightful)
People generally find jobs because they need a job--not because they are too bored to do something else.
Re:Useless (Score:5, Insightful)
And yes, some people find jobs because they are too bored to do something else. Lots of retired people get a part time job or something like that because they are bored. People plan all their life to retire, but don't plan what happens after.
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I quit Everquest for awhile because I found doing over the phone dsl tech support was more fun. At one of those places that tell you you'll have two weeks of training, but they toss you on the phone after 2 hours of training.
It got old after awhile though and I went back to EQ.
Career (Score:3, Interesting)
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I'd love to see someone try to make a career out of this! Pick a game like WOW and then advertise that you will make the game hell for whoever for a fee in an attempt to get them to quit.
Depends on the game mechanics. I don't play WoW, but I bet it's pretty hard to grief others. Most MMOs these days are like that. It would be easy in EVE though.
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Already been done in lots of online games....
I know for a fact that there's been such things in EQ, UO, WoW etc. And well, there's EVE, where you have had entire mercenary alliances etc...
Irony (Score:5, Funny)
What if his son is running a business by selling his services as an ingame assassin?
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Irony: What if his son is hardcore PvP'er and relish the new challenge? Or just curbstomps the assassins.
Attempted Murder? (Score:2)
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It is about time he got cut off (Score:2)
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I guess that's better than addiction camp (Score:2)
Given some reports [latimes.com], I'd have to say that getting killed by virtual assassins might be better than getting sent to addiction camp...
On the other hand...
Unhappy with his son not finding a job, Feng decided to hire players in his son's favorite online games to hunt down Xiao Feng. It is unknown where or how Feng found the in-game assassins—every one of the players he hired were stronger and higher leveled than Xiao Feng.
You've got to wonder how addicted the so-called assassins were to the game to get to a higher level than his addicted son (or perhaps how inept the son was at playing the game) and what the father's contribution to the assassins' addiction. I guess if it isn't specifically your problem, you don't care. Welcome to the wonderful new virtual social media world
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Some doctors in China have an even better treatment than the camp: http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/13/controversial-surgery-for-addiction-burns-away-brains-pleasure-center/ [time.com]
If you're assassinated in a video game... (Score:2)
Re:If you're assassinated in a video game... (Score:4, Funny)
If you're assassinated in a video game, what happens to your assets? I can totally see a new a career here. First, I play video games all day long and get really good at them. Then, I offer to assassinate other players with the stipulation that I get to keep all their goods. So I get real world cash for the hit and virtual world goods from the person I just wiped out. And all while sitting on my ass playing video games. Hmmm I think I need to take this idea to a good VC firm before Zuckerberg steals my idea and integrates it into Facebook.
He'll make a killing.
Bullying (Score:2)
If a dad tried this in the USA he'd probably find himself, along with the assassins, being charged with some cyberbullying statute. The kid would then sue successfully, making enough money to move out, get his own place and continue gaming full time.
Make Love Not Warcraft (Score:2)
Internet Connection (Score:2)
Just cut his internet connection ... a perfect incentive for the internet gaming addict to move out and find a job
Seriously? (Score:5, Interesting)
I think the father is overthinking this. I can't get at TFA from here, but if the son is living at the father's house, there are much better solutions. If it's a game console, disconnect it and donate it to the Salvation Army. If it's the son's personal property, fine, but if the son is living at the father's home, the internet connection probably belongs to the father. Login to router, disallow son's device. (And change the admin password.)
What it comes down to is this: "It's my house. If you want to live as you please, go out and get your own place. You're old enough. And if you think you can keep an apartment as a professional game player, let me know how that works out for you."
We had a similar issue at my house. I was at work and missed the fireworks, but I'm told they were spectacular. Wife was absolutely addicted to a Facebook game, wouldn't get off the couch except to go to the bathroom. Daughter needed food, couldn't get wife's attention. So daughter went out to the garage and turned off the router. (Wife doesn't know a router from a coffee pot, didn't know what to turn on.) Whoo boy. Initially wife's reaction was "I'm not going to do anything for you until you turn the internet back on" (imagine that much louder and a bit hysterical). Daughter's response "you weren't doing anything anyway, so what have I lost?" I'm told that after shouting back and forth for awhile, and a half hour of sulking, wife finally got up and made dinner with very bad grace. As soon as the food was ready, daughter turned on the router.
Later, I got home, said "hi" got no answer. Said "Hello" a little louder, still no answer. Called wife's name, got "Don't. Talk. To. Me." Ooookay then.....
I tend to be self-correcting on games. I may have mentioned before, I was a Warcraft addict for awhile, and when I realized I couldn't stay away, I gave the disc to daughter and told her to hide it. A year and a half later, I still don't know where it is. But I have so much more time at home to actually interact with my family (when wife isn't playing facebook games) and do stuff around the house.
In yet another instance, I had a nephew staying with me, and when he quit college because it's "too hard" and decided he could make a living as a game tester if he just put in enough practice, it was time for him to find some place else to live. I hear he slept in his car for awhile.
Re:Seriously? (Score:5, Insightful)
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but she likes video games.
Farmville != "video games"
Texas moms (Score:2)
Spoiled. (Score:5, Insightful)
This is a fairly common problem in Asia, and possibly more prevalent in Chinese speaking nations. Sons continue to be revered to the point of being spoiled rotten. So they go through school and enter the workforce incapable of handling the responsibilities and stresses of life. They expect everything handed to them and many have trouble being told want to do in the workplace. It's not fundamentally different than the entitlement culture parents are creating in the west, but it's a bit more focused in Asia and manifests itself a little different.
Where American youth expect they should be free to pursue a life of leisure young men in Asia have it in their heads that they're budding entrepreneurs. So they'll refuse to get a job because they don't want to work for the man. They leech off the parents and because of the strong sense of family and obligation parents will support them indefinitely. They'll even go as far as helping them start a business which doesn't improve their work ethic. For the guys with wealthy and connected parents they'll get a cushy, high paying job doing not much of anything. The irony is that the daughters still get the short of the stick, but end up being the responsible ones who in the end support the parents and the slacker brothers.
Of course, there is the subset who have no aspirations whatsoever, like this guy. So his father didn't kick him in the ass when he should have, let the problem persist and grow, and now is trying to do something about it when it's too late.
If my parents did this... (Score:3)
I'd quit and do what they said out of pure geek respect for pulling it off!
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Well, with the little money the kid made before he quit that software development job, the kid should buy the best in-game gear he can and PK his dad every time he tries to assassinate him!
The Dad isn't playing games; he's too busy working to support his deadbeat offspring.