I think it's interesting how people act on their beliefs. A lot of Christians, for instance, wear crosses around their necks. Nice sentiment, but do you think when Jesus comes back, he's really going to want to look at a cross?
''Nice sentiment, but do you think when Jesus comes back, he's really going to want to look at a cross?''
How amazing is it that in 2020 when we can manipulate subatomic particles and know about entanglement and can't exactly explain the physics.
And there are people who believe there was a person that was conceived in a virgin, rose from the dead once, and think there's great odds that a twice dead person will once again be reincarnated. Supporting that theory is the largest tax protected business in the wor
And there are people who believe there was a person that was conceived in a virgin, rose from the dead once, and think there's great odds that a twice dead person will once again be reincarnated.
Christians don't believe he will be reincarnated. The basic teaching (this is in the Nicene Creed; it's as basic as it gets) is that he ascended after the resurrection but that he'll return in the same body. In this body he was united to humanity, thus saving humanity. It cannot be abandoned without abandoning the connection between God and man, the basic premise of the whole incarnation.
This may seem a subtle distinction, but it's the whole point of the story.
I suppose that's consistent with the belief in the incorruptible bodies of saints, etc. Christians who believe in heave as a physical kingdom on Earth in the future inhabited by the risen dead have to believe in some form of reincarnation though. Clearly most human bodies are not incorruptible in death, usually falling apart into nothing. Even the "preserved" ones are clearly in no state to be re-inhabited without basically being rebuilt from scratch. That goes for the body of any saint you care to name whe
I suppose that's consistent with the belief in the incorruptible bodies of saints, etc.
Exactly so. Actually, that's the whole point of all that. Even the remains of the saints that aren't incorrupt are venerated. That's precisely what a relic is. The assumption is that the remains--the physical matter itself--is sacred and will be part of the resurrection.
Even the "preserved" ones are clearly in no state to be re-inhabited without basically being rebuilt from scratch. That goes for the body of any saint yo
I feel a little of my background may be needed before diving into religious discussions. My family joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1831; some stragglers on another line weren't baptized until the 1850s. This sect is Christian, but doesn't bind itself to the Nicene or other creeds.
I suppose that's consistent with the belief in the incorruptible bodies of saints, etc.
My sect believes that our bodies do decompose after death (eg. our bodies were formed from the dust and until dust will return). During the resurrection, our bodies are restored to a perfect, incorruptible
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Plywood? (Score:5, Funny)
Video shows the four young men chanting "Christ is king" as they tear down the monolith and replace it with a plywood cross.
Plywood? I deserve better than that, you fuckers. I'm not impressed.
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I think it's interesting how people act on their beliefs. A lot of Christians, for instance, wear crosses around their necks. Nice sentiment, but do you think when Jesus comes back, he's really going to want to look at a cross?
-Bill Hicks
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''Nice sentiment, but do you think when Jesus comes back, he's really going to want to look at a cross?''
How amazing is it that in 2020 when we can manipulate subatomic particles and know about entanglement and can't exactly explain the physics.
And there are people who believe there was a person that was conceived in a virgin, rose from the dead once, and think there's great odds that a twice dead person will once again be reincarnated. Supporting that theory is the largest tax protected business in the wor
Re:Plywood? (Score:2)
Christians don't believe he will be reincarnated. The basic teaching (this is in the Nicene Creed; it's as basic as it gets) is that he ascended after the resurrection but that he'll return in the same body. In this body he was united to humanity, thus saving humanity. It cannot be abandoned without abandoning the connection between God and man, the basic premise of the whole incarnation.
This may seem a subtle distinction, but it's the whole point of the story.
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I suppose that's consistent with the belief in the incorruptible bodies of saints, etc. Christians who believe in heave as a physical kingdom on Earth in the future inhabited by the risen dead have to believe in some form of reincarnation though. Clearly most human bodies are not incorruptible in death, usually falling apart into nothing. Even the "preserved" ones are clearly in no state to be re-inhabited without basically being rebuilt from scratch. That goes for the body of any saint you care to name whe
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Exactly so. Actually, that's the whole point of all that. Even the remains of the saints that aren't incorrupt are venerated. That's precisely what a relic is. The assumption is that the remains--the physical matter itself--is sacred and will be part of the resurrection.
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I feel a little of my background may be needed before diving into religious discussions. My family joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1831; some stragglers on another line weren't baptized until the 1850s. This sect is Christian, but doesn't bind itself to the Nicene or other creeds.
I suppose that's consistent with the belief in the incorruptible bodies of saints, etc.
My sect believes that our bodies do decompose after death (eg. our bodies were formed from the dust and until dust will return). During the resurrection, our bodies are restored to a perfect, incorruptible