"not supporting literally the US Gestapo... = supporting Hitler" now...
They say the North Koreans are brainwashed, but seriously... idiots like you take the cake. You don't need a dictator, because your are all doing the oppressing yourselves! They managed to make you WANT to hit yourselves. I'm not even mad, that's amazing!
LOL.
Oddly, that is only true if you are calling outside of the nation or calling other terrorists/spies/etc.
But it sure feels like nobody in government listens anymore, unless you are a major group, a rich person, a rich company, or a foreign government with lots of $.
To clarify, you can keep posting this stuff. Nobody's stopping you. I am choosing to respond with my opinion that it's just.. uh, a wee bit distasteful for this website.
I'd not classify it as terrorism: it's not designed to instill fear in the populace to accomplish a political goal through violence. It is frequently criminal behavior, in violation of the US Constitution, international treaties, and the mission statement of the NSA published at https://www.nsa.gov/about/miss... [nsa.gov]. Their abusive monitoring of domestic communications violates every one of their published goals. Yet, as documented by Edward Snowden and visible from the leaked documents at Wikipedia, they engage in illegal monitoring of US communications as a matter of routine practice. They are demonstrably unwilling or unable to obtain intelligence on human trafficking or narcotics entering the USA, or to provide intelligence to allies to control the enormous heroin trade from Afghanistan.
That trade is fascinating, Heroin is much more profitable than any other crop in Afghanistan, and the spread of the heroin trade is improving the Afghan ecology. They're using solar panels to fuel water pumps, and the water is encouraging other plant growth around the farms, which retains water better in the soil and reduces chronic erosion problems.
Millions of people of many shades disagree with me about many things. Why would they classify the NSA as committing terrorism? Can you point to a specific act by that agency? A criminal conspiracy guilty of violating law, the Constitution, and international treaties signed by the USA, certainly. If there were convincing signs of competence on their part, I'd be less concerned about them. But the lack of prosecutions, much less convictions, for large scale criminal activities used to fund terrorism such as t
It's probably worse. Edward Snowden is almost certainly an active (rather than former) NSA operative. By "revealing" his name, he split the public opinion into against-surveillance and against-snowden camps. Before his revelation, it was almost universally against surveillance. He thus halved the political opposition to the SLC installation at the moment when it was being publicly debated.
Yeah, and do you have ANY evidence one way or the other WHATSOEVER?
Or do you confuse this for a church?
You haven't even freaking met Snowden yet. For all you know, it might be a simulation in an universe entirely simulated by your mind... a Boltzmann brain (look it up)! ^^ As is this comment.:P
I did follow the opinion polls around the time that it happened. I didn't keep track of it in case someone, who would create a new account in the future, would challenge my memory. But I did observe that evidence (the opinion polls). The idea that the most sophisticated intelligence service in the world would not take steps to divide public opinion which was against it... well, it's cute. But then this type of manipulation that you engaging in should be done from a more veteran account to be even remotel
Not for me, and apparently not for the person you are replying to... if there's one thing Trump's presidency has shown it's that we want people to be incredibly sceptical of non-evidence based assertions.
That's Ok. You just made a number of assertions in your post which are purely your opinion (vis a vis Trump). I am sure you be happy to supply some anecdotal evidence which helped you formed your opinion, but you won't be able to give any authoritative sources showing those opinions to be facts.
The only problem, of course, is that you won't be able to supply even anecdotal evidence 10 years from now.
In 10 years, you'll just state your opinion based on what you will believe you will have studied rigorous
Which is to say that this is not a non-evidence based assertion. It's a conclusion from evidence whose sources I have not bothered to commit to memory or record. Which was the standard practice in the age when publicly-available evidence was easily re-discoverable.
You're not wrong. I'll just point out the page you linked to has two separate sections, Mission and Values. The second half is Values and that can be taken with a mountain of salt as you pointed out.
The first half of their page is their stated mission. Their mission is:
-- Mission Statement The National Security Agency/Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) leads the U.S. Government in cryptology that encompasses both signals intelligence (SIGINT) and information assurance (now referred to as cybersecurity) produ
Humanity is evil (some humans are good, don't confuse the two) and composed of violent amoral competitors. It cannot be different and our race evolved to compete this way. There is no "good", just "advantage". War and espionage are necessary. They should be better managed but the choice is which nation you'd prefer as hegemon, Putin's Russia, China or the US. There is no third real option. Grow up and forget your ideals. The world does not run on them.
Recruitment tool? (Score:3)
... always looking for a few good men ^H people.
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Please don't advertise for the NSA, an agency notorious for illegally fucking over US citizens and mass unconstitutional surveillance.
You are promoting terrorism, Slashdot.
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Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
I guess that's what we're doing this week. Okay everybody, we're going to help AC stop beating his wife by doing it for him.
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"not supporting literally the US Gestapo... = supporting Hitler" now...
They say the North Koreans are brainwashed, but seriously ... idiots like you take the cake.
You don't need a dictator, because your are all doing the oppressing yourselves! They managed to make you WANT to hit yourselves.
I'm not even mad, that's amazing!
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Oddly, that is only true if you are calling outside of the nation or calling other terrorists/spies/etc.
But it sure feels like nobody in government listens anymore, unless you are a major group, a rich person, a rich company, or a foreign government with lots of $.
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To clarify, you can keep posting this stuff. Nobody's stopping you. I am choosing to respond with my opinion that it's just.. uh, a wee bit distasteful for this website.
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I'd not classify it as terrorism: it's not designed to instill fear in the populace to accomplish a political goal through violence. It is frequently criminal behavior, in violation of the US Constitution, international treaties, and the mission statement of the NSA published at https://www.nsa.gov/about/miss... [nsa.gov]. Their abusive monitoring of domestic communications violates every one of their published goals. Yet, as documented by Edward Snowden and visible from the leaked documents at Wikipedia, they engage in illegal monitoring of US communications as a matter of routine practice. They are demonstrably unwilling or unable to obtain intelligence on human trafficking or narcotics entering the USA, or to provide intelligence to allies to control the enormous heroin trade from Afghanistan.
That trade is fascinating, Heroin is much more profitable than any other crop in Afghanistan, and the spread of the heroin trade is improving the Afghan ecology. They're using solar panels to fuel water pumps, and the water is encouraging other plant growth around the farms, which retains water better in the soil and reduces chronic erosion problems.
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Millions of brown people in the middle east would strongly disagree.
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Millions of people of many shades disagree with me about many things. Why would they classify the NSA as committing terrorism? Can you point to a specific act by that agency? A criminal conspiracy guilty of violating law, the Constitution, and international treaties signed by the USA, certainly. If there were convincing signs of competence on their part, I'd be less concerned about them. But the lack of prosecutions, much less convictions, for large scale criminal activities used to fund terrorism such as t
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Yeah, and do you have ANY evidence one way or the other WHATSOEVER?
Or do you confuse this for a church?
You haven't even freaking met Snowden yet. For all you know, it might be a simulation in an universe entirely simulated by your mind... a Boltzmann brain (look it up)! ^^ :P
As is this comment.
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Not for me, and apparently not for the person you are replying to... if there's one thing Trump's presidency has shown it's that we want people to be incredibly sceptical of non-evidence based assertions.
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That's Ok. You just made a number of assertions in your post which are purely your opinion (vis a vis Trump). I am sure you be happy to supply some anecdotal evidence which helped you formed your opinion, but you won't be able to give any authoritative sources showing those opinions to be facts.
The only problem, of course, is that you won't be able to supply even anecdotal evidence 10 years from now.
In 10 years, you'll just state your opinion based on what you will believe you will have studied rigorous
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You're not wrong. I'll just point out the page you linked to has two separate sections, Mission and Values. The second half is Values and that can be taken with a mountain of salt as you pointed out.
The first half of their page is their stated mission. Their mission is:
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Mission Statement
The National Security Agency/Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) leads the U.S. Government in cryptology that encompasses both signals intelligence (SIGINT) and information assurance (now referred to as cybersecurity) produ
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That's just great. They support terrorism but still can't support UTF-8.
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Wait, there's legal fucking over US citizens too? Where can I sign up? ;)
Oh, and fucking over foreign citizens is OK or what? Little four year old girl in Afghanistan that never did anything wrong, totally deserves it? Wtf.
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Wait, there's legal fucking over US citizens too? Where can I sign up? ;)
Try Tinder.
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Humanity is evil (some humans are good, don't confuse the two) and composed of violent amoral competitors.
It cannot be different and our race evolved to compete this way. There is no "good", just "advantage".
War and espionage are necessary. They should be better managed but the choice is which nation you'd prefer as hegemon, Putin's Russia, China or the US. There is no third real option. Grow up and forget your ideals. The world does not run on them.
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Why do you think I'm against war and espionage?
I just want them to do their chartered job: spying on the electronic communications of foreign powers.
A peacenik I am not.
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WHile a major fuckup occurred under W, the NSA has been overall above reproach.
CIA has had issues, but the NSA is not part of that.
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I think you need to read The Puzzle Palace and get back to me on that. They most certainly are not above reproach for violating their charter.
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Uh, goalposts moved. Got it. Conversation over.
I've repeatedly said I have no issues with them working per their charter--spying on foreign enemies' ELINT.
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I have already worked in intelligence.
So you upped your lie from 'friends in intelligence' told you stuff. To now pretend you were in it yourself...LOL