Man Takes Up Internal Farming 136
RockDoctor writes "'A Massachusetts man who was rushed to hospital with a collapsed lung came home with an unusual diagnosis: a pea plant was growing in his lung.' Just that summary should tell you enough to work out most of the rest of the details, but it does raise a number of questions unaddressed by the article: How did the pea roots deal with the patient's immune system? What would have happened if the situation had continued un-treated? I bet the guy has a career awaiting him in PR for a pea-growing company."
crap... (Score:5, Funny)
I knew I shouldn't have eaten the seeds to give myself an edge in all those watermelon eating contests :(
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.... oh god, I just realized I had peanut butter last night!
Quick! Have someone lick your nuts and see if they taste salty!
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.... oh god, I just realized I had peanut butter last night!
Quick! Have someone lick your nuts and see if they taste salty!
That is going on my to-do list for the weekend.
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you pick them out first...
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At least when it sprouts out of the top of your head, there'll be free watermelon for the whole family!
Monsanto is suing him (Score:5, Funny)
Turns out it's a GMO round-up ready pea mutant. Monsanto is suing him for using their genetic material without paying for it.
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Hadn't thought of that one. Though obviously lots of other people did.
This is why you shouldn't eat vegetables (Score:2)
I remember as a young kid being vaguely scared that, if I ate watermelon seeds, a watermelon would grow in my stomach. Of course, by the time I was six I realized that plants would not grow inside a human. Turns out I was wrong.
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Re:This is why you shouldn't eat vegetables (Score:4, Insightful)
The last time I read a story like this, the human was taking immuno-suppressant drugs which allowed the plant to grow without being attacked & killed by white blood cells.
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Wow! (Score:1, Funny)
Unpealievable!
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good thing it wasn't a watermelon seed (Score:3, Interesting)
I assume that if it went untreated it would have just died and either been absorbed or caused a nasty infection.
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Re:good thing it wasn't a watermelon seed (Score:5, Informative)
Think of it as them subsisting on their "egg yolk" (the twin "bean" parts) while they're still in the process of sprouting. As the plant use them up in sprouting and forming leaves, the "bean" parts shrivel up and then the plant starts to rely on its roots and leaves for food and water.
What the article describes most likely looks more like a bean sprout [google.com.ph] than a full-blown pea plant.
Re:good thing it wasn't a watermelon seed (Score:5, Interesting)
Photosynthesis serves the function of producing sugar from sunlight, water, and carbon dioxide by transfering an electron through several enzymatic structures. It is conceivable that (in order of likelihood), a) the half-inch long seedling was still being fully fed from the fruit, b) simple diffusion of sugar from the blood stream was able to supply the plant with enough sugar to sustain itself, c) free radicals were able to diffuse into the seedling's tissue, donating an electron to the photosynthetic chain.
"Scientists Grow Plants without Sunlight or Water": http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scientists-grow-plants-wi [scientificamerican.com]
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"Scientists Grow Plants without Sunlight or Water" -- I'm wondering how this might be applied to limited-resource gardening, such as aboard spacecraft (wouldn't be energy-efficient, but might be nutrient-efficient). No doubt some are already wondering how to apply it to the pot plants in mom's basement, too. ;)
Not to mention... "If I grow pot in my lung, I won't have to smoke it!"
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Sounds like a plan.. now just don't forget and Q-Tip your ears :)
Posted this story to a mailing list and someone there piped up with a story about how he'd had a grass seed (the kind you mow) grow in his ear while he was in the navy, resulting in hellacious headaches. Had got stuck in the earwax somehow and took root... doc pulled it out. Not entirely sure if he's pullin' our legs but it's a good story anyway :)
Re:good thing it wasn't a watermelon seed (Score:4, Funny)
Well it works like this. First if uses its existing nutrients to grow high enough to reach sunlight. Then it starts photosynthesis. If they'd left it in him, he'd have ended up like this [incgamers.com]
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White asparagus is just regular asparagus grown without sunlight.
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darn slashdot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spargel [wikipedia.org]
Pine tree lung (Score:5, Informative)
There is a similar case of a pine tree in a lung [google.com].
Re:Pine tree lung (Score:5, Informative)
A plant growing inside a human, able to cause pain and possibly death, much like a virus, brings to mind lots of philosophical questions.
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If you're an imaginative person, it brings to mind that M. Night Shyamalan movie about the plants intentionally releasing pollen that was toxic to humans.
Except that plants don't have intentions (doesn't take away from a silly horror flick, of course).
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Except that plants don't have intentions (doesn't take away from a silly horror flick, of course).
How would we possibly know whether plants have intentions or not?
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How would we possibly know whether plants have intentions or not?
There's no indication that plants have any thoughts at all. Intentions are a subset.
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How did this toxic pollen evolve?
Of course humans have intentions - brains operate differently than bark. It's of course true that the basis for our brains is simple electro-chemical/quantum interactions, but from that base are built ever more complex structures, some of which generate intentions.
To say a brain has no intentions is to say that a city has no neighborhoods because houses are made of wood, stone and metal, which have no neighborhoods. This is a division [nizkor.org] error.
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It's not a division error, and linking to an explanation of a division error doesn't make it one any more. There's no reductionism about it. That's like saying that describing how an engine causes a car move is reductionist.
Neurons operate via complex set of modalities involving physical, chemical, and temporal actuators. "Intention" is a human invention foisted upon objects which results in superstition and type I error. Great evolutionarily to protect u
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How does anything evolve? What's your point?
Traits occurring through random mutation that are useful for a species to reproduce tend to be picked up, and traits that expend resources that offer no benefit tend to be lost.
The idea that thousands of plant species could have convergently picked up a complex set of traits (poison pollen, communications systems) that were never useful before but required resources to maintain - asymptotically approaches zero.
Synergism of neurons can create inordinately complex r
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The same biochemical processes underlie the functions of both neurons and plant cells. But just because the brain is a very complex system does not mean we have to invent some "emergent" property
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but synergism is sufficient to describe the behavioural effects of neural networks.
So, your problem is with putting a name to the various resultant forms of that synergism?
Do emotions exist?
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no.
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Evolutionary dominance? Yes, because you know, over millions of years, several varieties of peas adapted to the conditions of the human lung and mechanisms of avoiding destruction by the immune system.
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Well, as the article shows, they have done exactly that without even really trying.
(Or more correctly, but less elegantly in our agency-based language, without even being tried.)
My mom used to tell me... (Score:5, Funny)
Farmville (Score:3, Funny)
This Farmville player is asking you for a PEA IN HIS LUNG for his farm!
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Am I the only one that thought of R. Kelly when you said pea in his lung?
Yes. Yes you were.
This really is (Score:5, Funny)
Hmmm Hmmm. see what I did there.
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My oft-referred-to "punishing" sense of humour doffs it's hat in recognition of a fellow-traveller. Ouch!
And my oft-exercised tin-lifting arm raises a tin in your direction >| clunk |<
SMBC (Score:1)
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1731#comic [smbc-comics.com]
Plants vs. Zombies 2 (Score:1)
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I heard about this from a doctor involved with it (Score:1)
I have some trouble believing this (Score:1)
Raw ripe peas are almost as hard as stones and indigestible (it takes soaking for a day and cooking for at least half an hour before the are edible (there are breeds of pea which can be eaten raw, but only the very young unripe fruits, which would not germinate)). I'd like to know what he really did.
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Ignoring the obvious fact that you appear to have confused peas and beans (peas will germinate quite nicely while still moist and tasty, you dry them out to preserve the seed for the winter), the fact that the plant was in his lung probably means he somehow inhaled it. Maybe his kid got ahold of one when he was planting his garden, put it in a slingshot, and shot it at him just as he shouted at the kid to stop stealing dried peas. Kid hits him in the mouth just as he inhales - hey presto - viable seed in
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Watch out for legal department, not PR (Score:1)
Chewbacca has a message for this guy (Score:2)
Chew, dammit!
I once knew a girl... (Score:1)
Seriously I knew a girl who developed a severe earache a few weeks after her honeymoon to Yellowstone and saw the doctor about it. He looked in her ear with an otoscope and saw something sticking out from behind her eardrum. It was a germinating seed that had lodged in her ear wax and taken root behind her eardrum. The theory was that the seed blue in during a particularly windy, dusty day during the Yellowstone trip.
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I heard a similar tale a long time ago - from the friend of a friend, who had recently graduated as a medic - of something unpleasant growing in a particularly dirty belly-button.
Did it grow, or did it just "sprout"? (Score:2)
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Your logic is impeccable, and you can perform the appropriate experiments yourself.
Get some fresh peas (other seed types may be better, but peas should work) and examine them carefully. You'll find that they have two similar hemispheres with a small "embry
So, we could say... (Score:5, Funny)
...he's achieved inner peas?
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He must be peased.
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I bow to you, good sir...
How about internal hookworm farming? Serious! (Score:5, Interesting)
I was watching one of the weird science documentaries my wife loves and saw one that beats this story by a bit. Jasper Lawrence [jasper-lawrence.com] had severe asthma and allergies and heard an old wives tale that hookworms could force the body's immune system to "cure" the allergies...so he went to Africa, stamped around in feces and got a nice case of hookworm. It worked. [wikipedia.org]
Now, he has set up a business [autoimmunetherapies.com] selling hookworms he harvests from his own feces.
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Some legitimate studies (Score:2)
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Um, if you think I was actually doing anything but saying "look at THIS revolting practice" y'all need your receptors checked.
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So this is what happens... (Score:2, Funny)
So this is what happens when you give peas a chance?
Self sustained oxygen (Score:1)
Since plants give off oxygen, if this had gotten large enough, he could have had a self sustaining oxygen supply without the need to breathe air...
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Well the obvious need for light would put a damper on this.
I have often wondered if it would convey any advantage for humans to have chloroplasts in their skin.
I have to imagine that it wouldn't be enough surface area, CO2, and Light to actually need to not breath... so probably little to no advantage.
But thats just my guess.
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Some people really shouldn't be allowed in a biology classroom
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Actually yes, that should work. Even if it could provide enough sugar to transport around and make ATP, it wouldn't diminish the need for vitamins, fiber (gotta keep that digestive tract flowing), and protein. In fact, it might add slightly to dietary requirements with other minerals needed for the chloroplasts.... might need a bit more Mg to produce chlorophyll?
In any case yes, some people shouldn't be allowed in a bio class. I too am one of them.
I still think the surface area to volume ratio would render
Unintentionally ! (Score:2)
A4Q (Score:5, Informative)
How did the pea roots deal with the patient's immune system?
They didn't have to. The immune system is largely inactive in and oblivious to the airspace of the lung. It would only be when the roots breached the walls and entered the blood that the immune system would get wise.
What would have happened if the situation had continued un-treated?
If it had continued to grow and tore a hole in the lung he could have got infection-like symptoms (fevers and aches as the body ramped up production of leukocytes).
If it had died it would become food for bacteria in the air, and it would have decayed in situ. That would have made a gooey mess.
It gave him what TFA called emphysema, or maybe they meant he really has a prior diagnosis for emphysema so he thought this was more of that and didn't do anything with it until it became acute.
He probably would also have contracted (or had and they weren't reporting) a bad case of pneumonia. The more stuff in your lungs that isn't lung, the easier that is.
BTW, BT, DT, and there's not much better in life than to get a result of "it's not cancer it's something weird" when your lungs hurt.
bet the guy has a career awaiting him in PR for a pea-growing company.
Or a lawsuit waiting for him from the trademark-trolling division of Archer-Daniels Midland, for using their logo [bit.ly] in his x-rays without paying a royalty.
Lung....
Lunnnnnnggggg....
Lovely, woody word....lunnnnnggg...
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I was thinking that Monsanto was going to sue him for using their patented lung-resistant pea seeds.
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Lung....
Lunnnnnnggggg....
Lovely, woody word....lunnnnnggg...
Sounds a bit tinny to me.
Likely employer... (Score:2)
"I bet the guy has a career awaiting him in PR for a pea-growing company."
Green Giant Vegetables, of course.
Ho ho ho.
Plants vs. Zombies (Score:2)
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His mom warned him for years... (Score:1)
to not inhale his supper!
Bizarre Human-Plant Hybrid Experiment (Score:1)
Notice to all men (Score:1, Offtopic)
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This is more freaky the more I look at it. I'm not sure which is freakier - that your gf/w/so seems to use terminology like that, or that you seem to have swallowed it (the terminology), ummm, whole and un-diluted.
Then again, you might be taking the piss.
Symbiotics for a Self Sustaining Life (Score:2)
Call Back (Score:2)
Old news (Score:1)
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/12001910794327/man-finds-plant-growing-inside-his-lung/ [whdh.com] (8/9)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10945050 [bbc.co.uk] (8/11)
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You must be new here.
Welcome to /.
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Well, it was news to me when I did my regular scan of the news yesterday morning. And yes, I do find the SNR of SlashDolt annoyingly high, but it's probably lower than other places. That is really annoying.
Hmm, I really should pay more attention to alternatives. What was that thing that Dawn suggested a while back on Dawkins.Net? ...
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Either s/SNR/NSR/
or ( s/high/low/ and s/lower/higher/ ) .
Doh!
Soylent Peas are People (Score:1)
Jordy Verill (Score:1)
Spruce branch section in lung (Score:1)
Some thirty years ago I've heard of a guy that was in his forties and had had a section of spruce branch discovered in his lung. He claimed that he "swallowed" this small secton when he was a toddler.
The needles on the branch were still green on discovery!
Sounds like an X-File (Score:1)
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Is this Massachusetts, UK? I ask because I'm reading this on the bbc.co.uk, and I figured if this was in the US then shouldn't this be on some Boston news website?
Wow...
Maybe Slashdot registration should include a test of cognitive skills.
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What are all these pods doing here?