Iran Unveils Flying Saucer Using Old B-Movie Stock Photo 174
ChronoFish writes "The FARS news agency and a host of others are reporting on Iran claiming to have created a flying saucer-like drone. There is one small problem however. The press release photos from the state-run news service are from a movie."
Stupid slashdot editors (Score:3, Informative)
TFA said it looks like a b-movie photo not that it IS from a movie.
Its just an experimental UAV.
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Follow up question (Score:2, Insightful)
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The real one should probably look something like this: http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/PicView.aspx?Pic=Pic-1736235-1&Lang=E [www.isna.ir]
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So they built a tricopter/hexacopter (hey it has six blades)? That's quite believable, any RC enthusiast with a few hundred bucks can do that. For a few thousand you can have a quadcopter like Google uses for low-altitude aerial photography.
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But the title of the Fars article is "Iran Unveils Flying Saucer", so it's more like Slashdot having an article called "Bill Gates gets cybernetic implants" and showing a convincingly* photorealistic version of picture you mentioned.
(*for certain values of "convincingly")
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Re:Stupid slashdot editors (Score:5, Interesting)
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I notice other subtle attempts to discredit Iranian domestically produced equipment in the US/western press
And I note totally non-subtle attempts to glorify Iran coming from many segments of US/Western press.
The reasoning seems to go like this: "I hate the US government, Iran hates the US government, therefore Iran can do nothing wrong"
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I'm not going to rate it down, but only because I want to respond. But God I hope someone else does. You are lumping non-US countries into one big group, and then at that you are speaking on behalf of entire countries. And every comment you made about said countries applies to many, many people in the US if not a pervasive American culture. "Frequently xenophobic," the need to "openly admit they are not the superior beings of the world." Don't get me started on "inferior societal practices," that is wrong o
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There is a VAST difference between individual ignorance and bias versus a cultural ignorance and bias which actively works to ingrained it in all of its citizens. The later is very likely a life-long failing while the former can simply change in the natural course of one's life and experiences.
Don't get me started on "inferior societal practices," that is wrong on so many levels.
Isn't this exactly the point of these forums? The simple fact is, inferior societal practices are just that, especially when people are not willing to discuss and address. Ultimately, that's entirely the point of my p
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And upon what do you base your expert knowledge of EVERY non-US culture? You are broad brushing, based on what? Some Indian schools are more competitive than American schools, but you are trying to say that they just hand out As because it's culturally unacceptable in every non-US country to fail a student. WHAT?! Where do you come up with this stuff?
The simple fact is, inferior societal practices are just that, especially when people are not willing to discuss and address.
You would do well to start with the inferior practices of American culture. That's what these forums are about, right, according to you? Turning a critical eye
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For example, foreign subject matter experts can teach the subject but are almost always prohibited from grading or correcting serious failures in comprehension.
Your knowledge of foreign educational systems is astounding. FYI, in the country where I come from, "serious failure in comprehension" in school would be plainly graded as such, and a student lagging behind severely could be forced to stay for another year in the same grade. In the university, you'd just fail your exams and be kicked out - which can be rather nasty for males as they then get conscripted into army. There's bribery, of course, but that is a very different issue.
This is singularly, the primary motivator for sending their kids off to Western schools because it effectively side-steps societal taboos.
No, the primary motivator for s
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Nice rant,
Nice rant, but I was addressing the gp which had issue with the use of, "home made", rather than than the source of the original comment.
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No, you are. Hit a raw nerve much?
Re:Stupid slashdot editors (Score:4)
But, do, continue with the belittling of those silly fundamentalists accomplishments.
Project Caret [fortunecity.com], anyone?
Did I miss something? (Score:5, Insightful)
I actually read the articles (yes, I know it's a sin) and I didn't see any reference to the picture they released ACTUALLY coming from a movie. The headlines *joke* that it *looks* like something from a B-movie, but the summary seems to take that seriously.
The picture may be a mock-up, and the claimed craft may be a bunch of bullshit (with some of the crazy claims coming from Iran lately, who knows), but I don't see any news sources saying they actually stole the picture from a specific movie. I will say though, that, for a country completely devoid of homosexuals, they sure do have an unusual bent for the theatrical.
Actual Picture (Score:5, Informative)
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+5 Informative.
Damn, I haven't had mod points since the update.
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I haven't had mod points in like 3 years. :(
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I've been getting 15 almost every 3 days
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I used to get mod points about twice a month, back when you could only get 5 points. Then suddenly nothing. It's annoying that the system is so opaque. I suppose I should try making a new account and seeing if that one gets points.
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It's no big deal for me though at the moment, I don't feel like I've been here long enough to give it a proper job yet. I do have some friends that have started getting mod points like crazy though. Seriously, I know a guy who got mod four or five days in a row. He was tired of it by the end.
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So, 15 points was an introduction with the new system? I thought it was some weird type of bug.
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I've been granted multiple bunches of 15 mod points for over a year now and occasionally a bunch of 5
I metamoderate and post not very often, but when I do post, my posts generally are modded up and I think THAT's the key.
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I emailed Taco about that, he said that the 15 points are given to the top percentage of moderators whose mods are generally "accurate", I guess meaning that other mods typically agree with them.
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As rwa2 says - something of a chore. There have been times when I had to choose between moderating or commenting. I used up 15 points just Saturday, and here it is Tuesday, with 5 more points waiting to be used. They show up frequently, and sometimes I just let them go unused. Don't ask me how to get mod points! Mostly, I just blather away with my personal opinion, and rarely back it up with any kind of reference or citation. Phht.
It's often been said that the mod system is broken. I can't argue that
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Didn't know they gave out 15. I've been getting 5 about twice a week. I usually don't use all of them (3 left right now).
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I have modpoints avaliable roughly 50% of the time..
But I almost never use them (Only if I see something very good with low rating), and I never meta-moderate.
Since I still use the old comment layout still, its kinda pain in the ass, since you have to scroll all the way to the bottom to click on the "Moderate" button (and if I don't do it rightaway, I forget it)
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I haven't had mod points in 7 or 8 years. No idea what my crime was, but I wasn't even able to meta-mod for a few years.
Maybe if I did now I'd get mod points again, but frankly I don't feel like it.
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Me too. No points for weeks (months?).
Re:Actual Picture (Score:5, Informative)
The actual photo is of a DraganFlyer X6 built by DraganFly in Saskatoon, Canada. I imagine the folks at DraganFly are busy answering questions this morning.
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including the actual photo being taken directly from their site:
http://www.draganfly.com/images/overview/DF-X6/Draganflyer-X6.jpg
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So when they say they "built" a UAV, what they mean is that they ordered one from Canada, got the kit, and assembled it?
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Good catch, but still doesn't look like the correct photo was used. The articles describe the Iranian device as a quad rotor... that stock picture of the DraganFlyer X6 has 6 rotors.
Anyway, here's a real picture of an Iranian UAV from last year: :P
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11052023 [bbc.co.uk]
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The actual photo is of a DraganFlyer X6 built by DraganFly in Saskatoon, Canada. I imagine the folks at DraganFly are busy answering questions this morning.
As of 12:09 EDT, no mention of Zohal on the draganfly website.
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The actual photo is of a DraganFlyer X6 built by DraganFly in Saskatoon, Canada. I imagine the folks at DraganFly are busy answering questions this morning.
This article
http://nycaviation.com/2011/03/iran-shows-off-flying-saucer-uav-which-is-not-round-looks-nothing-like-a-saucer/ [nycaviation.com]
claims the drone will be made by Dorna Aerospace Company [hfdorna.com]
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Ditto!!!
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Well, that's boring. And that picture doesn't look like a saucer at all!
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I guess the definition of a 'flying saucer' has been watered down a bit...
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It looks like they strapped a couple blades to a charcoal grill.
I'm wondering if this isn't a translation error - the real reference calls is a "cuadrotour" - not speaking whatever language it's supposed to be in (? Farsi) it's hard to interpret but it sure looks like "quad rotor" which is a much better description of the picture than 'flying saucer'.
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That's a UK police drone reported by BBC years ago: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/6676809.stm
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I'm pretty sure that picture is of a draganflyer X6 [draganfly.com].
Not impossible they've installed custom additions (custom autopilot, radio links, etc)
Perhaps the "flying saucer" is a mis-translation on FARS' part..
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Re:Actual Picture (Score:5, Funny)
Oh no! The Iranians have discovered RC helicopter technology!
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What the deuce?
Not only does it look nothing like at B-Movie spacecraft, but it's not even a saucer! It's a freaking remote controlled helicopter!
Is FARS the Fox News equivalent in Iran?
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LOL. You mean how Slashdot editors use stock photos for their articles? The irony.
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A more "real" link has a photo of a more helicopter looking thing, rather than that UFO deal.
I do like the fact "Fars News Agency" is registered out of Vancouver, Washington.. maybe another government shill office?!
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Yeah, the image [tineye.com] shows up a LOT on the web - but no mention of a movie.
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$10 says it's goatse
I'm sure as hell not clicking it.
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If it's goatse, that just makes me want to click it even more.
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Can you get goatse to show up on tineye? That would be a pretty good trick.
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THANK YOU. A citation. None of the news stories I've found provided one - they preferred to just make the allegation and trust that I will believe them.
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THANK YOU. A citation. None of the news stories I've found provided one - they preferred to just make the allegation and trust that I will believe them.
Um, just like Iran made a claim that they invented a flying saucer and trust that you will believe them?
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No, that's why I was looking for a citation.
Just because an outlet supports your preconceptions doesn't make it true.
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May not be a B-movie, but it's been available on DVD for more than two years now: http://www.amazon.com/Invasion-UFO-Encounters-Alien-Beings/dp/B001NZ3DNM [amazon.com]
/. News Network (Score:4, Funny)
Our contributors never sully themselves with reading the article they are writing about, news at 11.
To be fair... (Score:2)
Iran used to be called Persia... (Score:5, Funny)
...so can we consider this an update of a 'flying carpet'?
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...so can we consider this an update of a 'flying carpet'?
holy crap! it just struck me that the so called flying carpet was some advanced alien technology and that the conspiracy theorists are right about alien contact in ancient times!
aliens? (Score:2)
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Well, in Islam, animals must be slaughtered according to halal standards, which requires the animal to be drained of blood through the carotid and jugular (similar to kosher laws).
I think this explains all the dead cows drained of blood we saw on the X-Files.
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According to christian laws it is the same! We only allow the animal (or force it by law) to hit unconscious before it is slaughtered.
angel'o'sphere
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The problem with tractor beams is when they are used from too great a distance. They have a tendency to merely pull up the skirts of women revealing...gasp...ankles. No self-respecting Ayatollah would want to see them.
Richard Dreyfuss (Score:3)
Well the blog author makes a tongue-in-cheek shout out to Richard Dreyfuss, so I'm pretty sure he is making a reference to Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The picture is not from that movie. It certainly appears to be from something crappy, perhaps just the now legendary Iranian Photoshop Labs.
Imitation is the highest form of flattery (Score:2)
another article (Score:4, Informative)
http://nycaviation.com/2011/03/iran-shows-off-flying-saucer-uav-which-is-not-round-looks-nothing-like-a-saucer/ [nycaviation.com]
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and a pic of an aircraft with six rotors.
hehe, good catch. I guess photos of the actual plane are yet to be posted.
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actual picture is from a commercial product:
http://www.draganfly.com/images/overview/DF-X6/Draganflyer-X6.jpg [draganfly.com]
True, but as other posters have pointed out, that photo does not match the description of the Iranian plane (described as a quad-rotor)
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This smells of propoganda. (Score:4, Informative)
Iran has scientists and engineers. They can build nuclear power plants, and other advanced technologies. The US would have you believe they are trying to build a nuclear bomb. Iran engineers and manufactures their own long range missiles, so they have the proverbial "rocket scientists" and apparently "competent" ones too.
What's the point of all this?
If you think, Iran, or any other country is unable to design and make their own "UAV", you have GOT to be drinking some serious kool-aid. They aren't stupid and they aren't dumb. Whoever from Iran reporting this story probably isn't allowed access to real photos, so they grab something from their little scrapbook and publish the story. Here in the US, we are so stupid to think that Iran scientists and government have nothing better to do than sit around a table and come up with stories to tell the world; for no purpose or goal at all?
Stop acting retarded people. You want stupid stuff printed in American stories, look at Popular Mechanics. "Oh, but those are artists renditions..." what's the difference!?
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*snicker* Ok. I'll bite. How's that cure for AIDS [farsnews.com] coming along?
Robot Sentry (Score:2)
A a killer robot sentry [wikimedia.org].
MPAA army (Score:2)
Looking at the photo, I can only say... (Score:2)
Reminds me of (Score:3)
The pictures show half-filled racks of old commodity servers + storage. Quoting myself: [mehrnews.com]
I just checked out the pictures, and it looks really, really fishy. All you can see is several angles of the same 4 cabinets with 16 1U servers each and one big-ass storage array: 12 disks/cage x 8 cages/cabinet x 8 cabinets = 768 disks; at 135 GB each TOPS with 1+1 mirroring, that'd be ~ 72 TB.
Either they have a notoriously incompetent photographer, or it's the grownup version of a hastily put together science-fair mockup.
So, they're no strangers to silly attempts at faking news, or they're really bad at illustrating real ones. Either way these journalists suck at whatever they're doing.
COS (Score:2)
The unmanned flying saucer, named "Zohal", was unveiled in a ceremony attended by Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei.
They stole this from L. Ron Hubbard, didn't they?
Build == Assembled From Kit (Score:2)
This is what they "built:"
http://www.draganfly.com/uav-helicopter/draganflyer-x6/ [draganfly.com]
"Iranian aerospace scientists have built an unmanned flying saucer..." Or just copied a picture from a website from a company that actually does.
Iran: The North Carolina of the Middle East (Score:2)
Anyone know how to say "like," in Arabic?
Like the Chinese (Score:2)
Re:Old news? (Score:4, Funny)
Welcome to Slashdot. You must be new here.
Re:Old news? (Score:4, Funny)
Unlike the news.
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Why? I like the news.
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Is it really wise for them to use GPS?
You know... the service provided and controlled by the US military?
Never mind, nothing to see here, move along.