IPhone 4 Survives 1,000 Foot Fall From Plane 222
tekgoblin writes "From the article: 'US Air Force Combat controller Ron Walker had lost his iPhone 4 from his aircraft during flight. He works as a Jump Master, which is where he would ensure the airplane was in the correct position when he sends parachute jumpers out. The plane was moving at 150 mph and while looking out the door of the plane to find necessary ground landmarks his pocket opened and his iPhone flew out. When he noticed his phone fell, he thought all was lost. Upon landing and sharing the story with friends he installed the Find My iPhone app on one of their phones and went looking for his phone. He expected it to be battered from the fall but found the phone to be 100% un-damaged from the fall. The phone was protected by a Griffin Motif TPU iPhone case but it isn't clear whether the case protected the phone from the fall or the fact that it was cushioned by the brush that it hit.'"
Obviously (Score:3, Funny)
The pilot was holding it wrong.
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"From the article" (Score:5, Informative)
That WAS the article, minus the last sentence.
So we know now that the iPhone 4 can survive a 1000ft fall as long as it doesnâ(TM)t hit concrete, I wonder if Apple will talk about this at one of their next iPhone announcements.
There, now you've read the entire article.
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Re:"From the article" (Score:4, Insightful)
Fair enough -- I refuse to participate in the "follow the trail of blogs linking to other blogs in the hope you might eventually find an original source", and I've (obviously) given up on slashdot submitters to find real sources when their favorite blog has a two bit summary they can use almost in it's entirety instead.
Re:"From the article" (Score:4, Funny)
There, now you've read the entire article.
I don't think you know the gravity of what you've done. You've just popped the cherries of millions of the 98% of long-time /. readers who have never once RTFA. Now that they've had a taste, could it be a dawn of a new era?
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No.
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We're both assuming they've actually read the summary.
So, no. It's not going to be a new era, unless you mean one in /. readers don't even read the comments, because that's about all that's left for them to ignore.
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We're both assuming they've actually read the summary.
I didn't even read the title...
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The problem is that when it hits concrete (or the floor of a bus) from any height, including the 2 feet from my pants pocket to the floor, it will shatter the glass.
After owning my iPhone4 for 71 hours I was at the Apple Store paying $65 ($29.99 for the replacement back and the rest of the Griffin case) to get it fixed.
Yes, Apple ended up refunding the repair cost following a survey I took when I noted that NO PHONE SHOULD BE MADE ENTIRELY OF GLASS. They didn't agree but did refund the money because I had o
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Two things:
1) How tall are you? I've dropped my iPhone 4 onto the floor (be it hardwood, vinyl and concrete) five times so far, and the only time it's been from less than 3 feet was when it was in my shirt pocket and I was leaning over to tie my shoes (stupid)
2) Despite having dropped it from a higher height than you claim will shatter the glass
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1. Since you quoted me but didn't seem to understand what you quoted let me help you there. See, two feet (I was sitting).
2. Being careful means putting it in my pocket when it's not in use.
3. I was under the misconception that it was made of some sort of magic "hardened" glass. I didn't expect it to shatter.
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NO PHONE SHOULD BE MADE ENTIRELY OF GLASS.
Oh please. Next you'll be saying people should be able to use removable storage, or swap out their batteries without disassembling the phone. You must take us all for fools.
Chinese quality (Score:3, Informative)
I always knew that the Chinese manufacture the best equipment in the world.
Big Deal (Score:4, Interesting)
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Bah! I programmed my phones to post pointless messages to slashdot in the event of a 16000 foot drop!
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Feh. I'm posting from the Earth's mantle on a Motorola Micro-Tac II right now!
Re:Big Deal (Score:5, Funny)
Well my pocketknife survived an orbital re-entry, so fuck all of you.
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Nintendium (Score:3)
But can your iPhone survive the building it's in being blown up by an RPG? The original Gameboy has. It still plays Tetris to this day.
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But can your iPhone survive the building it's in being blown up by an RPG? The original Gameboy has. It still plays Tetris to this day.
But does it play RPGs too? Or was Tetris melted into the cart slot?
Really? (Score:2)
Because mine didn't survive the 4 ft fall from my hand to the kitchen floor.
The guy it landed on is in pretty bad shape though (Score:3, Funny)
I'll probably get modded down for this but I can't help it. I am in a giddy mood today.
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Device with no moving parts survives 1000ft fall (Score:3)
Murphy's law (Score:4, Interesting)
An old laptop of mine resisted a car collision, but the screen cracked one time it fell ONE FOOT HIGH from the ground (and flat).
There is some sort of law in electronics that makes a gentle caress the most common cause of electronics death. You can shot devices with a shotgun and not do as much damage as treating it with care.
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There is some sort of law in electronics that makes a gentle caress the most common cause of electronics death.
I believe you're referring to Electrostatic Discharge (ESD), the pertinent "law" would be Ohm's.
I'd heard that the iPhone 4 was prone to ... (Score:5, Funny)
.. dropped calls.
(Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. If you're unlucky).
Terminal velocity? (Score:5, Informative)
Small objects have proportionately more drag for their weight so their terminal velocity may not be that fast, reached earlier (so overheight doesn't matter) and damage less.
Another case of why there are no flying pigs -- weight increases as the cube of length, while drag increases as the square. So lots of flying bugs.
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w = weight
rho = about 1.22 kgm**3
A = Things fall in the orientation that causes the most air resistance (believe it or not) so that's the face area, about
Cd = Coefficient of drag for a rectangle is about
So terminal velocity is about 50 MPH.
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wow (Score:2)
Apple! IPhone! Apple! IPhone! Apple! Apple! Apple! IPhone! IPhone! IPhone! Apple IPhone!
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Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple JoooOoobs JoooOoobs Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple JoooOoobs JoooOoobs OoOooo Android! Android!
[John]
FOD... (Score:2)
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I'd say it was more of an unauthorized bombing
Yeah, he should have removed the battery before dropping it... [O sorry, I forgot, it's an iPhone]
With any luck (Score:2)
The phone was protected by a Griffin Motif TPU iPhone case but it isn’t clear whether the case protected the phone from the fall or the fact that it was cushioned by the brush that it hit.'"
With any luck the brush it hit was a Taliban guy's pubic hair.
only logic can tell... (Score:3)
I guess these guys are not CSI, or even scientist for that matter.... ....
>or the fact that it was cushioned by the brush that it hit
Of course if you found it in the bush, then it was cushioned, as anyone knows that some material to cushion the fall takes some of the impact away from the object, and that means as well that it landed on grass or dirt underneath, and not pure cement (i never seen a brush grow in the middle of a street)....so again another reason why it was ok, I am glad that his iphone is ok, as I have one, and could not live without it, but get a clue, it was not apple or the cell phone, it was the environment it landed in,
If you really want a test.., try letting it fall from the plane into water, then go find it, then tell me that it is not wet, and its a miracle, then i will praise apple for creating the perfect phone, until then....
koolaid (Score:3, Funny)
Lucky... (Score:2)
Parachute? (Score:2)
There's an app for that!
Handy tip (Score:2)
If you're going to drop an iPhone 1000 feet, aim for a bush.
Re:Handy tip (Score:5, Informative)
Well, if there's a landing strip where the bush has been cleared, aim for that.
If it's wide open space instead, give thanks for your good fortune and aim for the open space where the bush used to be.
not impressed (Score:2)
Mine flew off of a moving car (Score:2)
I had left it on top of the car and forgot. It flew off into the road at some point and was picked up by a thankfully very honest person. Again, not a scratch. I believe this was one positive result of the monolithic design of the iPhone, in that it remained in on piece as it impacted. Another phone with a removable battery would have probably been in pieces scattered all over creation.
Cheers
I call bullshit... (Score:2)
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That being said, he's a Jump Master and should have known better than to have it anywhere but in a very secure container/pocket.
OH MY GOD! (Score:2)
Is the brush ok?!
I'll remember this ... (Score:2)
Grammar Pedantry (Score:2)
"but it isn’t clear whether the case protected the phone from the fall or the fact that it was cushioned by the brush that it hit"
What, the brush was moving too? It (actively) hit the iPhone 4? That's one Fandroid bush!
Seems pretty tough to me (Score:2)
I've dropped my (naked / unprotected) iPhone 4 from a height of roughly 5 feet onto a concrete sidewalk, and it's not even scuffed.
YMMV...
Obligatory (Score:2)
Physics fail (Score:2)
Goddamned slashvertisements... of COURSE if something has a soft landing it's not going to explode into a million pieces. Terminal velocity and stopping distance are the deciding factors. There are numerous documented cases of aircraft pilots and gunners surviving 15000+ foot drops onto snow or foliage with little more than a sprain or minor fractures, which can happen just the same from a 10 foot fall onto a hard surface.
Like the saying goes, it's not the fall that kills you, it's how you stop.
Re:Before I got a case... (Score:5, Funny)
My old iPhone 4 shattered in a 3-foot fall from my pocket to the concrete...
The new one hasn't had a scratch on it since, though.
iPhones are like cats, dropping them from less than 2 meters doesn't give them enough time to brace for impact. Drop it higher.
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Only if you assume a spherical iPhone.
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that isn't far from the truth.
My iphone has fallen from 12 feet onto concrete, and I only have a small chip in the housing to show for it.
It also depends on exactly how and where it hits. landing on a corner is actually better than landing on the glass. landing on a small stone is worse than landing flat, etc.
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My old iPhone 4 shattered in a 3-foot fall from my pocket to the concrete...
The new one hasn't had a scratch on it since, though.
Obviously 3 feet didn't give it enough time to prep itself.
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The problem is that the steve jobs reality distortion field makes the iPhone see this as only 2 inches.
Re:Before I got a case... (Score:4, Funny)
If only he were as effective with this line on girlfriends...
Re:Before I got a case... (Score:4, Funny)
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Too bad it wasn't an N900 (Score:2)
Would that give the highest n900fly score OF ALL TIME?
http://maemo.org/packages/view/n900fly/ [maemo.org]
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Well you definitely made a mistake there somewhere. You can't go from freefall speeds to a standstill with 0 Gs deceleration.
Re:G's (Score:4, Informative)
The Gs will change through the flight
When it initially starts falling air resistance will be negligable and it will experiance approximately 0G
As it approaches terminal velocity and stops accelerating the G-force experianced will increase tending back towards 1G
When it hits the ground things get complex
After it has settled on the ground it will experiance 1G
During hitting the ground is where things get really complex. A simple model assuming that the objects are rigid and that "contact forces" appear instantlygives a result of infinite acceleration and therefore infinite Gs. In reality different parts of the object will experiance different Gs as the object deforms on impact.
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Re:G's (Score:5, Informative)
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Dammit! Somebody finally gets the right answer and I'm all out of mod points.
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Once it reaches terminal velocity, it would be at 1G again. Then it would hit the ground.
Re:F**k (Score:4, Funny)
Really lucky.
My colleague's broke when it fell off her desk.
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Maybe its your colleague that`s not lucky.
Re:F**k (Score:4, Funny)
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The moral of this story is "Please buy an iPhone now not an Android phone so we can invest your money into designing a phone that can be used to make calls whilst being held with a human hand."
Disclaimer: I am the secretary of the Manchester (UK) Apple-Haters Association (AHA) so am guaranteed to produce comments from an an unbiased viewpoint.
Ni! (Score:5, Funny)
Explains why the Knights wanted a shrubbery. How Monty Python knew about iPhones back then is anybody's guess though...
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Mine bounced out of my holder when I was four-wheeling across a gravel road. Was in the case Apple was giving away to fix the antenna problem; no scratches.
Also, my 3GS was stolen from my house (with other stuff) but dropped somewhere in the yard when we had a foot of snow. Next morning, I saw one of the dogs running around with something in his mouth. He brought it up and was phone, still in Blackberry pocket case (same one that my 4 bounced out of). It lit up and screen unlocked just fine. Was out when we
Concrete is hard (Score:4, Informative)
You would need to perform controlled tests under identical conditions to decide which is the more durable in reality. Please post the results on YouTube.
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excellent, our collaborative efforts have begun! please purchase three models of each phone and contact me for shipping information
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That's fast! (Score:2)
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Terminal velocity should be much further than a few feet. Humans, which are not particularly aerodynamic, take a couple thousand feet to hit terminal velocity. A more compact object, like an iPhone, should have a higher terminal velocity. Since this one fell 1,000 feet, it's unlikely it hit terminal velocity at all.
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Also, objects do n
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Terminal velocity should be much further than a few feet. Humans, which are not particularly aerodynamic, take a couple thousand feet to hit terminal velocity. A more compact object, like an iPhone, should have a higher terminal velocity. Since this one fell 1,000 feet, it's unlikely it hit terminal velocity at all.
I don't know, an iPhone is small and slim but in a free-fall I doubt it would stick to a nice "dive" with the short-edge facing the wind-resistance. It would probably be a tumble.
Plus, the iPhone is light. While mass doesn't affect the acceleration, it does come into play with wind resistance. If you had 2 objects the same dimensions as an iPhone but one was made of lead and another made of plastic the lead one would reach a much higher terminal velocity because the force of the free-fall would be greate
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After learning that they are made in the same factory and with the same parts as Toshibas, this does not surprise me.
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You missed your chance to make one hell of a "The Gods Must Be Crazy" reference.
Would make for an awesome episode, though.
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He's a jump master. That means he was probably in something like a C-130 [wikipedia.org]. A jump master is typically the last guy you see before you jump out of an aircraft.
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They must be really scary then.
Re:Terminal Velocity? (Score:4, Funny)
Anyone know the tumbling terminal velocity of an iPhone? After a certain height it's all the same (until you start getting high enough that the iPhone will burn up in the atmosphere).
(monty)An African or European iPhone? (/monty)
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A flailing human hits Vt around 125 mph
Isn't this oddly specific.
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But terminal velocity is not about density.
Roughly speaking terminal velocity is proportional to weight and inversely proportional to area perpendicular to the falling direction. This means that smaller objects tend to fall slower
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Given two objects of equal mass and proportional shape, the smaller will have a higher terminal velocity
Given two objects of equal density and proportional shape the smaller will have lower terminal velocity because perpendicular area goes with the square of dimension and volume goes with the cube of dimension.
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Apparently the military doesn't have the same issue as commercial airlines with cell phones distubing avionics [wikipedia.org].
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Don't you think the military might put slightly better shielding on its avionics systems than commercial aircraft require? You know, to prevent the enemy from setting up a cell tower and bringing down the entire Air Force?
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If he was an Army JM he'd have that thing on a dummy cord, like everything else!