Doritos Creator Art West Dead at 97 178
The creator of Doritos has died in Dallas at age 97. Despite being the bane of keyboards and mouse wheels, Art West's famous snacks have become a staple in the geek diet. Doritos officially arrived in the U.S. in 1964 and has since expanded to 23 flavors. Art's Daughter Jana Hacker told The Dallas Morning News that the family plans on "tossing Doritos chips in before they put the dirt over the urn."
Thanks (Score:4, Funny)
Well, I guess he had to cash in his chips eventually.
Thanks for the flavors, sir!
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Time to Frito-lay him to rest.
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I think he would have preferred to have been Frito-laid to death.
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I guess we can't eat all we want... They won't make more.
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today is a day that will live in infamy (Score:2)
so long, and thanks for the chips!
Do you? (Score:2)
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Danger Zone!
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I am an ant you insensitive clod!
Ambivalent feelings... (Score:3, Interesting)
I mean, as a kid...I used to like doritos. Heck...I remember when they had plain doritos....not sure when they stopped those and only started the flavored ones.
But I'm a bit mad now...this guy contributed to the crap food we in the US eat on a regular basis. Highly processed foods, with no nutrition....contributing to the high obesity rate we see out there today.
But then again...I guess I can't put the blame on this guy....hey, they taste good. Trouble is, people abuse fast food today. A bag of doritos in my house when growing up, was a rare occurance....maybe for a special weekend if we were going to grill out burgers or the like. It cerainly wasn't day-to-day food.
Ok..so, goodbye Mr. Doritos Inventor Guy....thanks for a fun treat.
It is just too bad, that somewhere in the past couple generations, we've lost parents that actually care about what their kids eat....than actually had at least ONE parent that knew how to cook and prepare a nutritious meal, and knew the importance of that, and at least the insistence of at least sporadic family sit down meals.
It isn't your fault that a 'treat' is now viewed as a regular daily fucking food by so many Americans that are so fat, that if they drop the bag on the floor at their feet, they can no longer easily see the fucker sitting there.....nor can their 2nd grade kids...
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Back to cave man times parents had to teach their kids not to eat ... frogs -- I guess their lesson was lost on ancestors of French people! ;-)
Just had to, because I went through that sentence several times to parse it, in absence of punctuation it was not easy...
But you and GP are right! And I feel ambivalent as well, but they sure do taste good!
(Damn, did I actually make a grammar nazi comment? :( English is not even my first language, sorry, man!).
Paul B.
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Stop letting your kids watch TV you don't approve of.
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Oh and keep them off my lawn.
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They had PLENTY of flashy, shiny ads for food and toys when I was a kid too.
More often than not, when I saw something on tv that I wanted, my parents used thi
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Why don't *YOU* stop showing it to your kids? Hit the off button, change the channel... and/or if you mean in a store, distract their attention with a toy or, I don't know, talking to them?
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I have to agree with you, food dosn't make people fat, people make themselves fat, parents deserve the full blame for childhood obiesity, not McDonnalds, not Doritos or Count Chocula.
When you can fully define the concept of 'choose', then you get the privilege of determining where blame lay for peoples' poor choices.
Your final definition must take into account the internal and external incentives, self-image and cognitive dissonance, peer pressure, blood sugar levels and nutritional effects, the apparent conflict between conscious and subconscious, the apparent notion that conscious decision-making occurs AFTER the action impulses have begun, the role of the pleasure center, and the pr
Re:Ambivalent feelings... (Score:5, Interesting)
But I'm a bit mad now...this guy contributed to the crap food we in the US eat on a regular basis. Highly processed foods, with no nutrition....contributing to the high obesity rate we see out there today.
Please reread the original article
age 97
Yeah I know, anecdote is not data, etc. But your rant is not gonna sit well about a dead nearly centurian. Sure, no corn and he might have lived to 110, but I think 97 is pretty good... If I "only" make it to 97 I'll be pretty happy. Pissed that I didn't make it to 98, but still pretty happy.
Also your rant is nonsense, regardless if corn and its byproducts are healthy, if it were not nutritious it would not make farm animals and people fat.
The final nonsense of your rant is the dorito was invented in 1964, about 40 years before widebodies started beaching themselves at the local walmart. I'm just guessing here, but I don't think it's the doritos.
non-nutritious would be stuff like sawdust, non-digestible fiber, cellulose plants in general...
I think you're confusing nutritious with good, just like some clowns confuse "natural" or "organic" with good.
In summary, I agree with you that corn and corn byproducts are not good for anything but fattening up cows and pigs before slaughter, so I try to eat as little corn and corn byproducts as possible. But your arguments are incredibly counter productive.
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Surely your not assuming corn is the most harmful ingredient in Doritos, because my permanently orange stained fingers would argue otherwise.
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Doritos are made out of corn.
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But your rant is not gonna sit well about a dead nearly centurian.
You don't have any idea if he ate his own product. He may have lived to 97 because he knew what was in Doritos, and so chose not to.
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Well I don't know if it is a rumor or urban legend, but old man Hormel was said to have condemned SPAM as the worst offense against humanity, second only to World War II (SPAM was invented in 1937). He wholly regretted his part in its creation.
He said it was so bad, vile, and nasty that sending it to our troops was a mistake. We should have air dropped it on the enemy.
If true, I highly doubt he was eating it either.
Of course, I don't even know if that is true or not, but SPAM is some nasty looking crap in
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In summary, I agree with you that corn and corn byproducts are not good for anything but fattening up cows and pigs before slaughter, so I try to eat as little corn and corn byproducts as possible. But your arguments are incredibly counter productive.
You've obviously never eaten fresh, good tortillas as opposed to the crap in a bag which is the subject of TFA. It's fine if you don't personally like things made from corn, but to dismiss a grain which has been a staple for many cultures throughout history as only good for "fattening up cows and pigs before slaughter" seems ignorant and short-sighted at best. Which grains are fit for human consumption, oh great fount of wisdom?
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Which grains are fit for human consumption, oh great fount of wisdom?
Absolutely none. Its a paleo-diet fundamentalist position. That doesn't mean you should never eat them, just avoid them as much as possible. A special treat is OK, as long as you don't have "special treats" every day...
My ancestors did not eat genetically engineered factory farmed grains for 4.5 billion years, and were pretty darn successful.
Then, depending on the grain and famines, etc, they "recently" started shoveling down grains like water and now they all die of diabetes and liver cancer and heart d
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Half an orange?!
(BTW, it's dessert -- two Ses for double-helpings.. heh heh.)
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In summary, I agree with you that corn and corn byproducts are not good for anything but fattening up cows and pigs before slaughter, so I try to eat as little corn and corn byproducts as possible.
And it is hardly even suitable for that. I assume you already know about the stomach acidosis that afflicts corn-fed cows; this is why they require the large and continuous doses of antibiotics. There is also an important difference in fat type between corn-fed versus grass-fed meat. Grass-fed meat is high in the kinds of fats that are (this week) considered healthy, whereas corn-fed meat, being obese, is full of saturated fat.
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You should emote at Coca-Cola and Pepsico, as well as the fast food chains. Then after doing that for a couple of hundred years, worry about processed snack foods.
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It is just too bad, that somewhere in the past couple generations, we've lost parents that actually care about what their kids eat....than actually had at least ONE parent that knew how to cook and prepare a nutritious meal, and knew the importance of that, and at least the insistence of at least sporadic family sit down meals.
Not just caring about what we eat, but teaching us some self-control. My mother wouldn't stop me from scarfing those Nacho Cheese Doritos when we got a bag. She was just too soft on me, bless her heart.
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Sorry, but I and all of my Gen-X neighbors cook decent meals and sit down to supper every evening with our families. We police our children's diets, and we only scarf down a bag of Doritos once a month or so -- as a cool treat.
If anything, we're stricter on our kids than our parents were. My mom never purposefully bought "organic" food -- there was no such products in the 80s. Sometimes, they gave us cupcakes or cookies at school! (gasp!) I was allowed Kool-aid whenever I wanted it. Heaven forbid I let
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Sweet Jesus man, find a cross and we will nail you to it, you miserable bastard. Seriously, we need your diatribe about junk food; it's not like we haven't heard it all of our fucking lives. How about we find you, capture you and fuck with you. We put you in a cage and starve the shit out of you and when you are about to die, we toss you a bag of Doritos and see if a. you eat it. b. if you do, does it save your life? Too much? Not enough? Not enough, ok, then we give them to you a chip at a time, and play "
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I think you've mistaken Ozzie and Harriet for a documentary - it's not. It's fiction. Seriously, as with so much else, there never was such a golden age except in rose tinted and se
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Funny. That's not only not the world you described in your original post, it has nothing to do with that world.
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Uh, I'd hate to interrupt your diatribe on nutrition, but, the reality is, Doritos have a *lot* of nutrients. Highly processed foods are also highly nutritious. The science just doesn't add up for you.
The problem isn't corn or fast fast food, it's over consumption of food married with low activity rates.
Please stop your nonsense ranting. You look like an idiot.
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I'm more ambivalent - no, angry - about the "staple of the geek diet" statement in the summary.
What the hell has "geek" come to mean? Some awful stereotype of pallid fat socially inept outcasts sat in the glow of a computer screen stuffing junk food in our mouths?
Bollocks to that.
A geek is meant to be intelligent. Intelligence looks at the evidence and sees that eating properly makes you happier and more effective.
Like the parent says - Doritos shouldn't be anyone's "staple".
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Re:Ambivalent feelings... (Score:5, Insightful)
A bag of doritos in my house when growing up, was a rare occurance....maybe for a special weekend if we were going to grill out burgers or the like. It cerainly wasn't day-to-day food.
Everyone I personally know still treats them the same way today. Maybe I'm out of touch, or maybe you're imagining the problem is bigger than it really is.
I checked the wikipedia and they typically sell around half a billion bucks worth of doritos per year in the USA. The vending machine in the basement sells a little lunch size snack for about a buck. There are about half a billion americans, plus or minus a heck of a lot of illegals. So the average american eats about one snack sized bag per year, or with an order of magnitude anyway. Supposedly that one annual bag is why one third of us are "fat" now. I'm thinking, no. Even assuming that only the fatties eat them and the skinnies never eat them, thats still only 3 snack bags per fatty per year.
I think this much like the widely quoted claim that the average american watches 8 hours of TV per day. Yeah, OK, whatever, its a gullibility test, nothing more.
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My work provides snack sized bags of chips (inc. Doritos, which are my favorite). Between that and chips I buy myself, I probably eat 100 snack-sized bags worth per year, mostly during my 8 hours of sitting at work.
Yet I am not fat. Of course, this proves nothing.
I'm not even sure what point that you are making. That high fat, high salt foods like Doritos are not unhealthy? Perhaps not, in the same way that inhaling a little water vapor is not unhealthy, but that does not mean that drowning is a made-up
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To eat junk food "day to day" as quoted, Doritos takes care of exactly one day out of the year. You still need somewhere around 300 brands for the rest of the year. There are probably less than a tenth of that, at least with any appreciable market share...
(inc. Doritos, which are my favorite)
As a fellow doritos fan, I would argue they are the most popular of "bagged junk foods" with lower market share for everything else I'm thinking you'll need more like 400 other brands to explain widespread obesity.
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If you recognize "junk foods" as most pre-packaged foods (snacks, frozen meals, canned meals) and almost all restaurant food its easy to account for caloric intake behind most obesity.
Consider also that while a tiny bag of chips sells for a buck in a vending machine. A "Family Sized" (yeah, right) bag sells for less than 5 bucks at a convenience store or supermarket.
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I think it is more than a little sad that I have impressed others with my 'cooking skills' by doing little more than opening the package, adding water, and sticking it in the microwave.
I'd be really impressed with your cooking skills if that got you anything other than a steaming bag of soggy corn chips and maybe a damaged microwave.
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I'd be really impressed with your cooking skills if that got you anything other than a steaming bag of soggy corn chips and maybe a damaged microwave.
You know what makes an absolutely killer topping on top of mac n cheese? Like blow you away amazing flavor? Smashed nacho cheese Doritos, that's what. The key to eating fattening unhealthy stuff like pasta / cheese / doritos is its a special slow cooked winter snack, eaten in reasonable small portions, maybe as a side dish, not every freaking day at lunch, not eat more and more until you feel like you need the vomitorium.
They also make a weirdly tasty replacement for cornmeal for breaded fish. Plenty of
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People would think you're a lunatic if you drank ketchup like it was beer.
But...Ronald Reagan told me it was a vegetable....
Re:Ambivalent feelings... (Score:4, Insightful)
I've got two words for you, just two words: slow cooker [wikipedia.org]. Yes, I realise that they're only good for casseroles, soups and the like, but you can also come home to braised beef that melts in the mouth and if you like curry you'll love one of these gizmos (lamb works particularly well). A timer comes in very handy for things that need less cooking.
I'm also single and have little trouble cooking, subsisting as I do on slow-cooked fare, salads, stir-fry and other quickly-prepared meals. Another piece of advice I'd like to share is that you will probably find a lot of good recipes in so-called student cook books: they're packed full of meal ideas meant for people who have little time to cook. In fact, my book was the most useful thing I bought in my university years, next to a jug type water filter, which dramatically improves the quality of cheap vodka.
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a jug type water filter, which dramatically improves the quality of cheap vodka.
Mythbusters tested, and busted. Sorry.
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Worked for me, and apparently the Mythbusters' judges could tell the difference*. Perhaps you underestimate how truly bad some cheap vodkas are.
*But then again, while at least one ranked them correctly the MB team couldn't find any chemical differences, so either judges or MBs are full of it. Or both.
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And venison (Score:2)
Slow cooker makes the best venison, aside from deer jerky and grilled tenderloin steaks.
You can also make a pretty good facsimile of kalua pork in a slow cooker, and it's a lot easier than digging a pit in the back yard.
Re:Ambivalent feelings... (Score:4, Insightful)
If you actually put some thought into it it's a lot easier and cheaper to cook for yourself. Throw a hunk of meat into the oven, and simmer some rice. Walk away, come back 20 minutes later. You're done. Less than 10 minutes actually cooking, and far far cheaper than 5 guys.
Or like the other poster suggested, get a slow cooker. Once or twice a week make up some large batch of food, and freeze it in aliquots. I've got curry, baked beans, spaghetti sauce, and gumbo in my freezer right now. All I have to do is toss it in the microwave and prepare a starch to go with it. About 20 minutes actual work, but you eat 6-8 meals off of it.
Or on the weekend, cook yourself a big roast. Maybe a turkey. This is actually very easy. Just stick it in a bag, stick the bag in the overn, and walk away for a couple hours. The left overs will last most of the week, and you can do lots of things with them. Sandwiches of course. Or throw it in a salad.
You know what's really easy too? Quiche. Just get a pie crust from the store. Toss anything you have in to it, and fill with an egg/milk mixture. Bake it about 45 minutes. Less than 10 minutes actual work.
A lot of vegetables are really easy to make for yourself too. Try doing squash sometime. Just cut it open, remove the seeds, and bake it for an hour. Or microwave it for 10 minutes. Ridiculously easy, and do you have any idea how good squash is? It's really fucking good!
Or Broccoli. Boil water, blanch broccoli for 2 minutes, strain. You're done! You can even just rinse the pot out and put it back on the shelf. Honestly, the idea of paying someone to do something so simple, and get worse results than I could at home is repugnant to me.
As for dishes, there's a lot of good food that can be made in one pot. You don't need to be serving 4 course meals to yourself just to eat well. One pot, a plate and bowl, and your silverware. Is that really going to take you more than 10 minutes to clean? Unless you let your dishes pile up, there should never be that many in a single person household.
Your only barrier to feeding yourself well, cheaply and conveniently, is your own knowledge. If you're constantly looking up recipes and trying to figure out what to do, that can be stressful. But once you have a routine down, and work out of a well stocked kitchen it's all pretty trivial.
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Also look into O'Reilly's "Cooking for Geeks," especially if it's a matter of culinary accumen.
There are also some good shows that can give you ideas: America's Test Kitchen, Good Eats,
Iron Chef America, and Chopped. The last two in particular, whille emphasizing creativity,
are also about *speed* and taste.
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Or: make sure I have all the ingrediants needed for a meal, prepare it, wait for it to finish, eat it, then have to do a bunch of dishes, and then have to deal with leftovers of the same food for the next 3-4 days because its downright hard to cook for one person. Total time expense: a lot.
I hear ya on a lot of this. I still cook because I just like to do it; it makes me feel like a human being compared to what seems like 80 percent of the rest of what I do, which involves staring at a computer screen.
One thing that Changed My Life: I got an apartment with a dishwasher. Seriously, those things are little miracles these days, quiet and highly water/energy efficient. You waste more water doing dishes by hand, almost certainly, and it definitely takes more effort. Imagine being able to cook Than
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The real hard one to overcome, though, is the waste. [...] I haven't really found a satisfactory way to solve this problem, unfortunately,
Ziploc and Freezer. Then you can reheat stuff later. If this is really a big problem for you then you could even think about a vacuum sealer, then you can just boil food in the bag to reheat it. But if you design meals to be reused that helps too. For example, a bag of chicken breast strips. Dump in some spices and pour in a beer. BBQ 'em -- I have a gas Q so it's super quick and easy to get going. Eat them with dip or something, that's one meal. Now I make a sandwich with chicken in on day two. And maybe d
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That's complete bullshit. Everyone has time to cook.
You just don't want to.
And I note that every meal you mention is extremely unhealthy.
You may not be so happy in the long run with all the time you saved.
And you're doing it wrong if you really think cooking is more expensive.
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First of all, a disclaimer: Obviously most if not all of the following things I mention are bad food (way too many calories, fat, etc.).
But come on.. Isn't macaroni and "cheese" like 89 cents/box on sale? I know things like Rice A Roni go under a buck apiece fairly frequently (since I get them once in a while).
Also, soup. It VERY often is under $2/can (close to $1/can once in a while), even for the "fancy" soups. The ones I eat are
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Don't forget the health-care costs associated with long-term processed-food eating. They more than outstrip the savings you realize in food purchases.
Yes, depending how you source your food, obviously cooking can be more expensive. But it does not have to be - even fine cooking.
You can make a batch of home-made tomato sauce that will last a week, and that will cost you under $2. At Whole Foods, you can buy very good meat; for instance, $8 will get you enough chicken to last (me) four meals. With a few v
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Sexist much? Did you ever take an English class?
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I remember when doritos were closer to tortilla chips than they are now. They always had that flavor dust on them, as far as I know, but these days I'd say they're closer to cheetos (flavorless crunch substance + flavor dust) than they are to tortilla chips.
They had nacho cheese and then they introduced the ranch flavor ones. Everyone loved the ranch ones. Jay Lenno used to sell them, before he got rich enough that he didn't have to bother.
Then they became "Nacho Cheesier" and "Cooler Ranch". I don't pa
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I will eat a bag of Tapatio flavor in his honor (Score:2)
Real cause of death (Score:2)
Mummification (Score:4, Funny)
Are the Dorito's he's buried in merely symbolic, or do they also perform some sort of preservative function as well?
Bane of Keyboards (Score:2)
Bigtime Supporter of Organic Food/Fresh Local Food (Score:2)
However, when watching old Trek Reruns on You Tube, I lose all sense of pride and down a bag of the damn things.
Most unfortunate.
I also get the Doritos Angst sometimes while coding or looking at SVN bug report filings.
Good Heavens!
God help me.
-Hack
PS: On top of that, every Doritos bag is 100% GMO corn too, so I realy hate myself afterwards eating that crap.
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PS: On top of that, every Doritos bag is 100% GMO corn too, so I realy hate myself afterwards eating that crap.
Yeah, engineering is bad. People never should have modified food crops. Look how far cows have come eating unmodified grass!
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Just go to your local nature/health market and look for something that resembles doritos. I guarantee they will have something that will substitute, without a single artificial ingredient.
As a former Doritos addict (or maybe it's like alcoholism and I'll always be an addict, just not one that consumes Doritos) I can tell you that nothing will substitute.
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I looked at one website for the US, Safeway.
It lists the 11.5oz bag (326 g) at $4.79, which works out to $3.67 for 250 g. This is before any sales tax that may be applicable. If it cost $4 that would workj out to $3.07 for 250g. I believe the 11.5oz bag is "standard" in the US.
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That may be the "regular" price, but the "regular" sized bag, which yeah, has shrunk to 11.5 oz I guess, is fairly frequently on sale for about $2/bag. (Usually buy 1 get 1 free.. Though I seem to remember locally the regular price is $4.29.) Sometimes they're even less than that in price.
College lunch in 1976 (Score:2)
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Taco Flavor Forever (Score:2)
I just bought a couple bags of Taco Flavor (the original) in their original-design packaging (think Pepsi Throwback for Doritos if you haven't seen these).
Then I got back to my hotel and read this.
I'll dump a bag out on the floor in his honor.
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I'll dump a bag out on the floor in his honor.
Is that before or after you've eaten them?
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Aw, man... (Score:2)
I will observe a moment of silence and enjoy a "big grab" bag tonight in his honor.
You think I'm kidding.
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Disturbing Epitaph (Score:2)
It's people. Nacho Cheese is made out of people.
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This person did not do the United States any favors by creating a type of junk food. Think about how many billions of dollars in unnecessary medical costs are due directly or indirectly to his invention. You may as well give a medal to the guy that invented cigarettes.
I'm sorry, I must have missed where it's become common place to blame the creator of something for the way it's misused by consumers who exist to, gee, I don't know, consume?
Very glad I arrived late to to station so I didn't board that bandwagon before departing.
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It's not the corn, per se. Corn is pretty good for you.
But this corn is fried, sugared, covered in salt and chemicals, then packaged in petroleum products.
It's like putting a slice of tomato on a Ring Ding and calling it a salad.
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Think of all the money we could save if we all lived in pods. ACTUALLY how about all the money we could save if we were dead. Plus, no more worrying about death! What's the point anyway, right? Let's bring everything back to the universal nihilistic conclusion that every single way we interact with the world is ultimately toxic but WHO CARES because we are doomed from birth to spend our entire lives slowly dying in an uncaring universe that will burn out after aeons of darkness leaving only absolute nothing
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- If the death and burial are some distance apart, transportation is a lot easier
- You can fit an urn into a family plot between full-size plots.
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And in this specific instance, after Art West's ashes have been scattered, you can fill the urn with dip and have some chips at the wake!
Just don't double dip. That's disgusting
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Maybe he, you know, ate them in moderation like you're supposed to.
And Aspartame? Since when is there Aspartame in Doritos?
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They should toss in the Cool Ranch flavored ones. At least then they would be good for SOME purpose.
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I'm one of the Cool Ranch fans. :-) I eat other flavors, though, sorry.
I think I was the only one who liked the Pizza ones.
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Just give them to me. I love cool ranch.
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The original Doritos flavor was Taco. Right now, they appear in retro packaging. I see them all the time at the local convenience store in Podunk, USA. If you are looking for unflavored Doritos... They're sold by Frito-Lay under the trade name Tostitos.
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I think that "unflavored Doritos" are a lot different than Tostitos. Tostitos are much thinner and crunchier than regular tortilla chips.
So the closest I can think of would just be to get some other brand of plain tortilla chips. Especially if you're eating them with salsa, the chip is just a salsa delivery device, so the type of chip is _mostly_ irrelevant. The cheapo big bag you can get at Costco or Smart & Final is probably the best for salsa.
Though even Doritos do seem to have slightly different
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They're called "Tostitos."