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School Sends Child's Lunch Home After Determining it Unhealthy 554

halfEvilTech writes "A North Carolina mom is irate after her four-year-old daughter returned home late last month with an uneaten lunch the mother had packed for the girl earlier that day. But she wasn't mad because the daughter decided to go on a hunger strike. Instead, the reason the daughter didn't eat her lunch is because someone at the school determined the lunch wasn't healthy enough and sent it back home. What was wrong with the lunch? That's still a head-scratcher because it didn't contain anything egregious: a turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice. But for the inspector on hand that day, it didn't meet the healthy requirements."
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School Sends Child's Lunch Home After Determining it Unhealthy

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  • Well.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by pimpsoftcom ( 877143 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @08:40PM (#39068439) Journal
    Maybe it didn't have what plants crave?
  • by hawks5999 ( 588198 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @08:43PM (#39068491)
    All school kids need chicken nuggets.
  • by Sebastopol ( 189276 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @08:43PM (#39068495) Homepage

    I'll wait for some investigation into this. Note the source, TheBlaze, is an inquirer-like conservative rag.

  • Article is BS. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 16, 2012 @08:45PM (#39068521)

    Actual story:
    - Lunch was not taken away from the girl; she was given extra food because they were worried she might not have enough.
    - A standard form letter was sent to the parent, which said that she may be charged for the food - in fact, since the child was enrolled in the right program, she was not actually charged for the food
    - The food given was milk and vegetables, not chicken nuggets.


    • Re:Article is BS. (Score:4, Insightful)

      by paiute ( 550198 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @08:50PM (#39068617)
      This "story" was debunked on other sites, including reddit, hours ago. What the hell, Slashdot?
    • Re:Article is BS. (Score:4, Interesting)

      by russotto ( 537200 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @09:24PM (#39069055) Journal

      Actual story:
      - Lunch was not taken away from the girl; she was given extra food because they were worried she might not have enough.

      Nor does the story say lunch was taken away from her. In fact, since she brought it home, it implies otherwise.

      - A standard form letter was sent to the parent, which said that she may be charged for the food - in fact, since the child was enrolled in the right program, she was not actually charged for the food

      This is also not at odds with the story, which said "which could result in a fee".

      - The food given was milk and vegetables, not chicken nuggets.

      Milk, a vegetable, a fruit, and chicken nuggets. Of which the girl, being a typical American 4-year-old, only ate the nuggets.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 16, 2012 @08:46PM (#39068545)


    And I must say, it is rather embarrassing for this site to be spreading such sensationalist garbage around, especially when no one's done the background research to verify it. We all love knee-jerk reactions induced by rantings from a personal blog, but come on.

    • Honestly ... this wouldn't have happened if the mother didn't live within a walled garden. Also because she also utilized proprietary windows, her sandwich making was a closed model affair. People couldn't see into the house to check the sandwich source. I mean, jesus, no one really knew what was in the damned thing until the kid unwrapped it. Who knows what the mom could have put between the layers of cheese? Thankfully, the sandwich was caught by a security inspector in the wild and the kid was given
  • by Bruce Perens ( 3872 ) <bruce@perens.com> on Thursday February 16, 2012 @08:47PM (#39068577) Homepage Journal
    Headline news!!! Someone unnamed, somewhere in America, did something stupid in a SCHOOL!!! To a LITTLE KID!!! And OFFENDED HER MOMMY!!!

    Obviously, all of our rights are in danger! This is not an isolated incident, not just some person out there who's having a bad day, it's a slippery slope!!! WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO NIP THIS IN THE BUD!

    OK, I'll get my breath back now.

    I think it's a much bigger problem that anyone on Slashdot would think this story is worth posting.

  • by sonoftheright ( 1372723 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @08:48PM (#39068579)

    It sounds like the inspector just wanted a turkey sandwich.

  • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @08:54PM (#39068673)
    From TFA:

    But what was so wrong with the lunch the mother provided? Nothing apparently. A spokesowman for the Division of Child Development explained that the mother’s meal should have been okay.

    “With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that’s the dairy,” Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and statutory policy manager for the division, told the Journal. “It sounds like the lunch itself would’ve met all of the standard.”

    It‘s unclear from reports who determined the lunch wasn’t healthy enough. ... The school denied knowledge of the incident and said it’s looking into it.

    The real funny thing is at the bottom of TFA, people are posting rants against the Gov'ment and Michelle Obama, but it's a North Carolina rule, so people should be upset with their elected officials instead and, by proxy, themselves for voting for them...

    • by jrumney ( 197329 )
      Most likely what happened is the girl saw someone else getting chicken nuggets after they were told their lunch was not healthy enough, and hid her lunch to get some of the same. Then when her mother asks why she hasn't eaten her lunch, she parrots what she heard the teacher saying to the other kid, claiming it was said to her (and by this stage, with the way four year old brains work, she will have even convinced herself of this so there won't be any telltale signs that it is a lie).
  • by C_Kode ( 102755 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @09:00PM (#39068759) Journal

    Our school district doesn't allow most potato chips either. Sun Chips are okay, but Doritos or any type of potato chips you cannot have. They will take it away from your kids.

  • by RazorSharp ( 1418697 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @09:19PM (#39068991)

    Check out other great stories with the nottrue tag: http://slashdot.org/tag/nottrue [slashdot.org]

    My favorite is "Michigan Teen Creates Fusion Device."

  • News for Nerds? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Dave Emami ( 237460 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @09:28PM (#39069107) Homepage
    I was interested when I read this story elsewhere, but what is it doing on Slashdot? Our school lunch experiences are more along these lines [youtube.com]. That or getting our lunch money stolen by brawnier members of the student body.
  • I submitted the debunking of this "story" [slashdot.org] to be a slashdot article. While we can't make this miserable piece go away, we can vote for the correction to go to the front page. Go to slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] and vote it up. Slashdot editors won't take responsibility for a crappy article posted, but we can use the system to get them to pay attention to a correction.
  • Yes, this is news (Score:5, Informative)

    by steveha ( 103154 ) on Thursday February 16, 2012 @10:48PM (#39069819) Homepage

    I just read through all the comments scored 3 or higher. Several of you said, sometimes in exactly these words, "Nothing to see here, move along."

    Shame on you!

    You are prepared to dismiss this story as being lies made up by a 4-year-old, or lies made up by crazy right-wing biased news sources? You can't be bothered to research it a little bit?

    Put the words "West Hoke Elementary School" into Google News. Ignore Fox et. al. and look for local sources. Oh wow, looks like Google has started categorizing the links, and there is a link labelled "Local:" right near the top:

    http://www.wcti12.com/news/30472198/detail.html [wcti12.com]

    Or, if you can disdainfully read that horribly biased right-wing nutty web site The Blaze for a little bit, you can find their own link to the local newspaper story on the incident:

    http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria-nuggets.html [carolinajournal.com]

    So unless you are now going to tell me that the local news outlets are part of a vast right-wing conspiracy, I think it's clear there is indeed something to see here.

    Now it does look like there is some backpedaling going on. This has embarrassed the authorities and they are downplaying it. But here are the facts as I understand them:

    • The girl's lunch was inspected by someone.
    • The lunch failed the check because it did not include a vegetable. (It did include a fruit.)
    • Due to the failure, the girl was given additional food, which did include both chicken nuggets and some kind of vegetable.
    • The 4-year-old girl, very upset, at three chicken nuggets and nothing else put before her. She then took her uneaten lunch back home.
    • The school did send a note home to the mother, chiding her for not packing a vegetable in the lunch, and warning (threatening?) her that in future the school might start charging if they felt the need to stage such an intervention again.
    • The girl's mother said that the 4-year-old girl will not eat vegetables at lunch. Quote: "She eats vegetables at home because I have to watch her because she doesn't really care for vegetables."

    Now, as it happens, I heard the mother being interviewed on the radio yesterday. Her comment was that she can't afford to buy vegetables that won't be eaten and will be thrown away, and she can't afford to have the school charging her extra if the school doesn't like a lunch brought by the child.

    She was also furious that the state officials implied that she is doing a poor job of looking after her child, and extra furious that they are confusing her 4-year-old daughter into thinking she packed bad food: "You're telling a 4-year-old. 'Oh, your lunch isn't right,' and she's thinking there's something wrong with her food."

    Tell me, honestly. If you saw a news story on the Huffington Post that some right-wing outrage had been perpetrated in Alabama or something (I don't know, maybe paddling a child for not reciting the Pledge of Allegiance or something) would you immediately assume it was all lies because Huffington Post is a biased left-wing site? "Nothing to see here, move along"?

    Don't blindly accept or blindly reject any news based on where you saw it. It has never been easier to check for alternative sources to corroborate a news story.


    • Re:Yes, this is news (Score:4, Informative)

      by Beelzebud ( 1361137 ) on Friday February 17, 2012 @12:35AM (#39070627)
      Carolina Journal is not the local newspaper. They are based in a different city as the story, do not publish a daily newspaper, and only report on politically motivated topics like this one.
      • by steveha ( 103154 )

        Carolina Journal is not the local newspaper. They are based in a different city as the story, do not publish a daily newspaper, and only report on politically motivated topics like this one.

        Fair enough. Thank you for the clarification.

        Carolina Journal is based in Raleigh, NC and is run by the John Locke Foundation. I just looked up the John Locke Foundation and based on what they claim are their core principles, it is not surprising they would report disapprovingly about a news story like this. Just as i

  • by Fished ( 574624 ) <amphigory@NOsPam.gmail.com> on Thursday February 16, 2012 @11:06PM (#39069937)

    I used to weight 420 lbs. I had type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, severe sleep apnea (which could have literally killed me dead any night I forgot the CPAP), asthma, high cholesterol, IBS, and was diagnosed with type 2 bipolar disorder. I now weigh 194, have "the best cholesterol numbers [my doctor] has seen in a long time", energy to exercise, no breathing problems, I only poop when I want to now, and most of all I'm happy and stable without medication.

    How did I do it, you ask? I realized that the USDA's purpose is to promote American grain-based agriculture (everything but corn, soybeans, and to a lesser degree wheat are considered "specialty crops") and not the health of Americans, and I quit following their stupid, lame, ineffective food pyramid. I save almost $10,000 in medications alone -- forget about all the other medical costs -- and I LOVE my tasty home-made bacon. That nasty corn, and wheat, and high-fructose-corn-syrup, and soybeans? Keep 'em the hell away from ME! I'd rather SMOKE than eat a school lunch -- it's better for me.

    Want to lose weight? Grass-fed meats, vegetables (corn is not a vegetable -- except in school lunches!), fruit in moderation as a "treat". No added sugars of any kind. No wheat, corn, or god-help-us-soybeans-that-you-can't-even-eat-without-fermenting-them-because-they're-literally-inevitable-best-suited-for-feeding-pigs, ever.

    Since the government started setting "preventative" nutritional guidelines, based on the then-unproven "low fat" theory from Dr. Ancel Keys, in 1977, have Americans gotten thinner or fatter? When the USDA publicly acknowledges that there is no "one true diet" for all humans, regardless of their ethnic background (and how recently that area developed agriculture) I MIGHT listen to them again. Until then, I think it would be insane to listen to them -- insanity being doing the same thing again and again and somehow expecting a different result.

    It annoys me that the schools keep trying to tell my children that a low-fat diet is good for them. I can't imagine what I'd do if they started trying to force their hog-feed down my children's throats, but it would not be pretty.

  • by Joe Snipe ( 224958 ) on Friday February 17, 2012 @12:15AM (#39070485) Homepage Journal

    Why are you all feeding the machine? Why can't we trust that the local people in that area will take care of the situation? If you want to be outraged over nonsense go to your own townhall meetings. Instead of offering up what you would do, why not spend that time being a part of the community and actually do it?

    And you, Slashdot. The only way this could be construed as news for nerds is if there was a statistician whose specialty is school lunch programs, and even only then as a humorous aberration. If the day is this slow at least go for some speculative articles vaguely resembling something techy. Most other sites just made stuff up about the upcoming Android 5.0, at least show some effort.

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