Linux Forcibly Installed On Congressman's Computer In Act of Terrorism 343
fermion writes with news of Windows computers being forcefully liberated: "The campaign headquarters of Michael Grimm, a U.S. House of Representatives member from New York, were vandalized. What has not been reported everywhere is that Linux was installed on one of his computers, erasing data in the process. Is this a new attack on democracy by the open source radicals, or it is just a random occurrence?"
From the article: "'In fact, one officer said to me today they see this as a crime against the government, because I am a sitting United States congressman and they take it very seriously. You know, especially in light of what happened with Gabby Giffords, we're not in the world today where we can shrug things off,' Grimm said. ... [GNU/]Linux, an open-source operating system, was installed on Grimm's computers, erasing the hard drive contents, which included polling and voter identification data. But staff had backed up the hard drive contents hours beforehand. Grimm and his staffers said the vandalism — cement blocks were thrown through the office's windows — is a cover-up for the attacks on the computers."
Attack against Microsoft (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Attack against Microsoft (Score:5, Funny)
Police say that they suspect a member of the radical Penguinite cult is behind it. Other devices belonging to government officials are being inspected for Linux installations. Suspected devices include laptops, tablets, automobiles, toasters and those sneakers with flashing lights in the heel.
Re:Attack against Microsoft (Score:5, Funny)
Holy Crap, Batman! I think I see The Penguin's evil fingerprints on this computer!
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[..] they suspect a member of the radical Penguinite cult [..]
Not those splitters again!?
-- The Penguin's Front of Linux [youtube.com]
OMFG! They got our phones! (Score:3)
all our cellphones are compromised with this Finnish virus!
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You sure it wasn't the Penguin Liberation Front [zarb.org]?
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mm no. The congressman is under investigation for campaign fundraisings. Someone throw bricks through his windows, that's vandalism, but I believe his staff install Linux intentionally for erase the data in their pc's.
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Re:Attack against Microsoft (Score:5, Funny)
Also Who installs Linux while breaking and entering?
We can't help it. It's a moral imperative. You see a box that isn't running FLOSS, and you've just got to do something about it. Feature! :-)
Re:Attack against Microsoft (Score:5, Insightful)
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Or someone who gained access to the offices illegally, couldn't get past the network security so dropped a live CD into the laptop or system and went through the install process instead of boot image process in an attempt to use some tools to access networked information that went awry. The smashing of the windows and such could very well be the idiot's frustration pressing the wrong buttons.
But you are probably right about erasing evidence of crimes. Even if the evidence still exists, the fact that the off
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FTFY
Re:Attack against Microsoft (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Attack against Microsoft (Score:5, Funny)
After all, if it had been a legitimate forced-install, the computer has ways of shutting down those ports so the naughty bits can't take hold on the internal disk.
Re:Attack against Microsoft (Score:4, Insightful)
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I see you're -1 Troll. Looks like it's working well to me.
There's more to this story. (Score:5, Interesting)
Elsewhere it was revealed that it was a young kid who threw the rocks, and a staffer "accidentally" wiped the computers with a Linux disk.
I say accidentally because he was being investigated for illegal use of campaign funds, and some of the data that may have been of interest to the investigation was lost. And it's not exactly trivial to accidentally wipe your disks with a Linux disk. I can see someone doing it, but you do have to go through enough steps that you have to have been trying to do *something* with that disk even if it wasn't wiping the system.
Re:There's more to this story. (Score:5, Informative)
To follow up, here's the link: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/09/rep_michael_gri_1.php
Link doesn't mention anything about illegal funds (Score:5, Informative)
Your link doesn't mention anything about illegal funds, I was going to call you out for trying to mislead but then I Google'd it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/04/michael-grimm_n_1853232.html
Wow, pretty murkey Eric Cantor (Republican head of the House!) in there too receiving the monies, so you can bet this one will be buried quick.
Re:There's more to this story. (Score:5, Informative)
Elsewhere it was revealed that it was a young kid who threw the rocks, and a staffer "accidentally" wiped the computers with a Linux disk.
I say accidentally because he was being investigated for illegal use of campaign funds, and some of the data that may have been of interest to the investigation was lost. And it's not exactly trivial to accidentally wipe your disks with a Linux disk. I can see someone doing it, but you do have to go through enough steps that you have to have been trying to do *something* with that disk even if it wasn't wiping the system.
Yep, New York Daily New has the story here [nydailynews.com]. Apparently like the data wasn't deleted and whoever they had to do their IT didn't know enough about Linux and partitions to realise.
Re:There's more to this story. (Score:5, Insightful)
Because 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda' is just so fucking difficult. Maybe it would have worked better to have the staffer throw rocks, and a young kid wipe the hard disk.
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or they could be like Hollywood trying to throw rocks to break the LCD to destroy the data...
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/dev/zero? I'd use /dev/urandom. Mainly in the hopes that some poor fool doing forensics tries to "decrypt" the data and wastes months trying to find a signal in pseudorandom noise.
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Have you ever read legislation? It isn't just theoretically possible, but downright likely that copying /dev/random will result in an exact duplicate of the original data being written. /dev/zero would be just overwriting the drives with a document exhaustively describing the integrity of >99% of politicians.
Re:There's more to this story. (Score:4, Informative)
It's far easier to just boot dban and type AUTONUKE.
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Should fully wiping out all your data be as easy as pressing a button?
In certain circumstances, yes.
Re:There's more to this story. (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:There's more to this story. (Score:5, Interesting)
Bingo. An ex-employer of mine suffered a "break in" where the only things stolen were some executive laptops - which had conveniently been left out on their desks - and some of the papers in the safe - which the burglars apparently managed to guess the combination to.
This was after they'd stopped paying all the staff, but just before administrators were called in to go through the accounts and contracts. Say, can you guess what information went missing in the "break in"?
The staff just sighed and asked which side of the window the broken glass was on. It was that kind of a place.
But, never fear... (Score:2)
Elsewhere it was revealed that it was a young kid who threw the rocks, and a staffer "accidentally" wiped the computers with a Linux disk.
I say accidentally because he was being investigated for illegal use of campaign funds, and some of the data that may have been of interest to the investigation was lost. And it's not exactly trivial to accidentally wipe your disks with a Linux disk. I can see someone doing it, but you do have to go through enough steps that you have to have been trying to do *something* with that disk even if it wasn't wiping the system.
Yep, New York Daily New has the story here [nydailynews.com]. Apparently like the data wasn't deleted and whoever they had to do their IT didn't know enough about Linux and partitions to realise.
The young kid is still a terrorist. Good thing the police are treating it as "a crime against the government", since we're not in a world where a kid throwing rocks can be "shrugged off". No, indeed, we cannot ever ignore such violent acts of treason. And Linux? LINUX??? The white-text-on-black-screen OS of any true terrorist? I mean anyone who ever dumps out of the window system needs to be investigated thoroughly, let alone someone who does it to A GOVERNMENT COMPUTER?!
The IT guy was obviously work
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Just inserting the disk is not going to do anything. Hell many of the desktop install disks go to a live disk if you try to boot them. At the very least you get some sort of installer.
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(preferred because somebody who really really tried could probably resurrect the old data through a mere zeroing, but it would be a lot harder if overwritten with random bytes, and way harder if you executed this command five or six times in a row).
I have NEVER seen that done or even heard of it. Could you link me to a source, where it is shown, that a zeroed drive could be used to get anything meaningful back? The "overwrite 7 times to be sure" is a myth as far as I know.
Re:There's more to this story. (Score:4, Insightful)
Having said that, I've never heard of it being done before either.
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Yes, I do mean like that. This means the person had to do quite a bit more than just put the disk in. Like reboot the computer, press yes a couple times and in general it would be very clear that what he was doing would not be good for keeping the machine in its original state.
Re:There's more to this story. (Score:5, Informative)
I'd also like to note that the only place the word "terrorism" appears is in the headline of the slashdot summary. The word is not used at all in either the summary nor in the linked article.
captcha: distorts
Re:There's more to this story. (Score:5, Insightful)
Only terrorism if... (Score:2)
Only terrorism if...they installed Slackware!
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Re:There's more to this story. (Score:4, Insightful)
It is, in part, about establishing a false equivalence. A Democratic Representative being shot in the face is just the same as a Republican Representative loosing a couple hours of computer uptime.
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Oh come on, if you aren't amused by yellow journalism, what are you doing here?
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So in other words, as accidentally as Rose Mary Woods erased 18.5 minutes of the Nixon tapes. Got it.
By Linux do they mean Darik's Boot And Nuke? (Score:2)
It seems to me, that that the vandals, were probably just using Boot and Nuke as a quick and easy way to clear out a drive, to an unrecoverable state.
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Re:There's more to this story. (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's the real story:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/09/rep_michael_gri_1.php [villagevoice.com]
Rep. Michael Grimm's Office Break-In Not Quite Watergate; Just an 8th Grader Who Broke a Window
By James King Tue., Sep. 25 2012 at 3:39 PM
Congressman Michael Grimm's Staten Island campaign office was "broken into" over the weekend in what the congressman initially suspected to be a Watergate-esque scandal presumably perpetrated by the cronies of his opponent in this year's election.
Not quite -- it was just an eighth-grader who broke a window.
The NYPD says today that an eighth-grader at a Staten Island junior high school told a school counselor that he and a friend broke the window. The boy, who has not been identified, has been charged with criminal mischief.
Grimm initially claimed thieves broke in using old keys and then smashed windows to make it appear like it was a just a case of random vandalism -- which it was. He suspected that the burglars installed software on the hard drives of computers in the office designed to delete files.
Nope -- a "police source" tells the New York Daily News that it "appears that a campaign staffer wiped the hard drives accidentally after mistakenly inserting a Linux system disc into a Windows machine."
They have hats for people like Grimm -- they're made of tinfoil.
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So, no one "broke in" and it was a staffer who accidentally (?) installed Luinux.
Another linkbait bullshit slashdot "story".
Inside job! (Score:3, Funny)
congressman=ruling class? (Score:5, Insightful)
because I am a sitting United States congressman
Does anyone else get an air of elitism when people say things like this? "I work for the government, I'm better than you, and these things should only happen to you plebs." I feel that as long as our politicians think like this, we're doomed as a democracy.
Re:congressman=ruling class? (Score:5, Funny)
I sensed an air of laziness. If he were useful, he would be a standing, running, jogging or working congressman, not just a sitting one.
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How do you know he's not sitting on a recumbent bicycle?
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Like this guy?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9563847/Police-log-reveals-details-of-Andrew-Mitchells-pleb-rant.html [telegraph.co.uk]
Once elected to office, the snout goes in the trough and they take all they can while thet rest of us pay for it.
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That was his quote of a statement by an 'officer'. You know, the Gabby Giffords thing, and how even getting upset at a sitting Congressman might be an act of terror.
Can't imagine why anyone would want to disrupt the Congressman's campaign. Any ideas?
Lack of perspective (Score:4, Insightful)
In light of a the attempted assassination of a congresswoman, throwing a lump of concrete through a window and flattening a computer definitely should be the highest priority for the police.
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Both are crimes?
Uh... what? (Score:2)
I had to check the ol' calendar to ensure that I didn't sleep till April 1.
What kind of hooey is this?
Who would want to break and enter to install linux? Really?
Let me put it to you this way Mr Congressman: They did you a freaking favor, thank them and move on.
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Who would want to break and enter to install linux? Really?
Maybe Linux advocates are following the example of animal rights activists who throw paint on fur coats.
Gabby Giffords? (Score:2)
OMFGWHAT?
I'm sure getting his computer attacked was just as bad as getting shot in the freaking head.
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Exactly my sentiment. This guys computer gets wiped and he compares his situation to a senator being shot in the head. To (almost) quote Lewis Black:
It is my firm belief that if you are [a senator], you absolutely have to know where you are in the time-space continuum
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But the real question is... (Score:5, Funny)
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It was actually a beta of Ubuntu 12.10, and I hear he actually flolloped when he saw the amazon search results in the dash
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Then why is it so funny?
What distro was it? (Score:4, Funny)
Tin Hat Linux by the looks of it.
So basically... (Score:5, Funny)
terrorisim? really? (Score:2)
After reading all the links.... Can we get a bit more sensationalist?
Slashdot - The Fox news of the tech world... no wonder Taco left.
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Choice of OS irrelevant... (Score:3)
If anyone accesses your PC without permission and destroys your data, that is a problem.
If they do it by installing some other OS, that is just the same problem. You weren't going to keep your compromised OS, were you?
If the other OS is Linux, that is no different to putting (say) MacOSX or BSD or MS-DOS even on the PC.
Heck, doing a clean install of an older version of WIndows would be just as bad.
Your data is gone. That is the news.
This is a joke (Score:2)
just wait for the clueless Congress to ban linux (Score:2)
just wait for the clueless Congress to ban linux and with that take down a big part of the web running linux servers.
Sad (Score:2)
I like how he egregiously throws Gabrielle Giffords into the conversation, as if terroristic acts of violence against authority/government figures weren't part of the frikkin' job. (If I was a clever /. poster I'd do the neat thing where each word of "part of the frikkin' job" would be a link to a separate story of political assassination from Abraham Lincoln, to Sissi of Austria, to President McKinley, to Archduke Ferdinand...)
I'm not saying what happened to her wasn't tragic; I'm saying it's PART of the p
This is a non-story. (Score:5, Informative)
1. Congressman misappropriates campaign funds
2. Congressman comes under investigation
3. Congressman slips IT guy $50 to ransack the office at night and make some key financial data "disappear"
4. Congressman acts shocked and appalled, decries this act of "terrorism" and labels himself as a helpless victim.
5. Media gobbles it up because it contains the word "terrorism"
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7. Profit! (from misappropriating campaign funds)
Mysterious computer shutdown (Score:2)
so... someone broke into his office just to install Linux on one of the laptops. And they've connected this to "thefts of lawn signs" and "recent mysterious computer shutdown in the middle of the night." ..Riiiiight... I can't figure out what they are trying to cover up here, but this has got to be one of the most outlandish excuses I've ever heard.
Did they leave the source code? (Score:3)
Or, at least, an offer to come back with the source code at any point in the next three years?
Should be easy to identify the culprit (Score:5, Funny)
They left distinctive footprints walking across the yard in front of the office:
Actual Forensic Photo From Evidence File [nationalge...cstock.com]
Don't see shoes like that every day in New York
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Automated install? (Score:2)
I seem to recall at least one distro that would automatically install via a booted CD.
Oldest Campain Trick in the Book (Score:2)
I predict the following:
* that the vandal(s) will not be found, even with security cameras working.
* this candidate is losing in the polls.
* that the people that “forcefully” put Linux on a computer never heard the word, “no” uttered by the computer, thus imping it was “consensual.”
By force? (Score:2)
A computer has no will, and thus cannot 'forcibly' have anything done to it, except in the sense that *everything* is done by force, as a computer has no self volition to do anything.
I don't see that word in the article. Has this headline been editorialized?
Re:Noob Hackers. (Score:4, Informative)
And then selected the wrong keyboard and language settings, and then chose the wrong partitions to format and then selected the wrong packages to install...
Re:Noob Hackers. (Score:5, Insightful)
You'd be amazed how clever some idiots are.
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Re:Sounds like data theft (Score:5, Insightful)
By the way, recovery of a data by this process has never even been attempted, let alone succeeded. There are images of HDD platter surfaces on the MFM Wikipedia page, but then again those aren't zero'd drives, and the current gen drives are approx 80x more densely packed.
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Sounds like some kind of warped attempt to discredit FOSS to me. It just doesn't sound like the sort of thing that "the community" would do. It's rather counter-productive if someone thinks it will make people start to take FOSS more seriously.
I can't help thinking that this is only part of the story.
Is he a Republican? We ALL know that Linux is Communism. Damned Socialist Penguins. Always plotting to undermine our Defenders of Free Enterprise and the American Way!
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Other accounts that I've read on this story indicate that he is a Republican. And one who's not doing so well in his campaign.
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Superglue in the USB Ports?
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Remember, kids: extremism in the defense of democracy is no vice.
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Right. Then when that's done we get silverback gorillas to come take out the wolves.
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Whole-wheat? Those monsters!
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It also gets me that some kid would put a Linux cd in, boot to it, and 'accidentaly' wipe a hard drive of a Congressman under investigation. If it was a CD, likely it was Ubuntu, which boots into 'test drive' mode by default. And aren't most computers set up to not boot from the cd drive as a default? What politigeek would have the brains and experience to change
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Thing that gets me is, they considered Palin to be the best choice for Veep. This after Romney and Ryan already had political carreers going.
More likely it was a cynical attempt to appeal to female voters after H. Clinton failed to get the nomination.
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And aren't most computers set up to not boot from the cd drive as a default?
See I figured the hard drive wasn't wiped; they just didn't take the live cd out of the drive.
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