Pizza Hut Tests New "Subconscious Menu" That Reads Your Mind 186
HughPickens.com writes Allison Griswold reports at Slate that Pizza Hut wants to help you order your food subconsciously with a new product that is being tested at 300 locations across the UK that uses eye-tracking technology to allow diners to order within seconds using only their eyes. The digital menu shows diners a canvas of 20 toppings and builds their pizza based on which toppings they look at longest. To try again, a diner can glance at a "restart" button. "Finally the indecisive orderer and the prolonged menu peruser can cut time and always get it right," a Pizza Hut spokesperson said in a statement, "so that the focus of dining can be on the most important part — the enjoyment of eating!" According to news release from Tobii Technology, the Subconscious Menu can determine which ingredients your mind and eyes have been looking at longest in exactly 2.5 seconds. The menu then uses a powerful mathematical algorithm to identify, from 4896 possible ingredient combinations, the customer's perfect pizza. "Tests on the Subconscious Menu have been incredibly positive with 98% of people, recommended a pizza with ingredients they love."
Dumb idea (Score:4, Interesting)
Sometimes I'm just reading the menu. Tracking what I look at or how long I'm looking at it isn't representative of my decision making process.
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I'm going out on a limb here, but I doubt that this is going to force you to buy a particular pizza at gunpoint.
That's version 2.0
Re:Dumb idea (Score:4, Funny)
And I'm sure that couldn't possibly be a scam to try to get people to order a few slivers of onion or green pepper at an extra cost of $1.50 each (while taking away some of the pepperoni at the same time).
They may take our pepperoni, but they'll never take our heartburn!
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Pizza Hut often has pizza with free toppings, you just pay based on size. The more toppings you choose, the less you get of each one. There is no reason for this to change the price based on their typical menu.
Rather good idea, I think (Score:3)
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Why use an eye-tracking system, though, over a touchscreen ordering system? You select the toppings you want, submit the order, pay, get your receipt, move down the line, and get your food at a second window. No need to worry that you're tossing pepperoni on the pie because the person's eyes happened to linger there just a little bit too long. (Or have to inconvenience customers by making them remove the pepperoni from their order when the system thought they wanted pepperoni.)
Or is touch-screen too much
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No need for any human to be involved until the menu says your order is finalized.
Sure, but they could do that with a self serve kiosk. Just push the touchscreen for the items you want, and swipe your card to pay. The go to the pickup window to get your pizza. There is no need for an eye tracker.
Re:Dumb idea (Score:5, Funny)
Sometimes I'm just reading the menu. Tracking what I look at or how long I'm looking at it isn't representative of my decision making process.
"Why does it always want to give me oniones? I HATE ONIONS!"
Yeah, I can see that being an issue.
Re:Dumb idea (Score:5, Funny)
For the same reason that your smartfridge will keep ordering eggplant when you hate eggplant and throw it out immediately.
"High turnover of eggplant == must be your favorite"
And why your voice-activated blu-ray player won't let you watch all of Top Gun - "Eject Eject! Eject!" Click. Bzzzt.
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Hmm, I just ordered a deep pan base with stuffed crust, anchovies, tabasco, softice, cheesecake, olives and chicken wings. Mmmm
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>> Sometimes I'm just reading the menu
And sometimes I'm reading it - fascinated even - to avoid talking to (or intentionally annoy) my companion(s).
Oh wait, this isn't passiveagg.org?
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Dumb idea (Score:5, Funny)
If it's tracking by watching eye movements, I eagerly await their new Boob Flavored Pizza.
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Or maybe the computer will automatically add additional... um... "services" to your order.
They have a topping for that (Score:3)
Seriously! Is an alarm going to go off if I'm checking out the cleavage of the young lady behind the counter? I'll take my pervert money elsewhere!
No, it just adds Human Breast Milk Cheese to the toppings list.
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"Honey, honest. I don't know why the eye tracking system ordered that for us! I kept my eyes on the menu the whole time!!!"
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Tracking what I look at or how long I'm looking at it isn't representative of my decision making process.
How do you know that? Are you really all that sure that your eyes don't look at something that you enjoy for a tenth of a second longer than when looking at things you don't enjoy?
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How do you know that? Are you really all that sure that your eyes don't look at something that you enjoy for a tenth of a second longer than when looking at things you don't enjoy?
And yet who is to say that I wouldn't look at something for 1/10 second longer just because I absolutely hate that topping and have a hard time believing anyone sane would eat it?
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Well, based on testing, at least 98% of people don't do that. Also, how likely are you, seriously, to stare at a picture of sardines when you don't like them? And even if you do it the first time, what are the odds you're going to keep that revulsion and outrage for subsequent viewings? Outside of the "pickles ruined my life"-style mental illness, I just don't see it happening.
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the "pickles ruined my life"-style mental illness,
Oh, thank God, it's not just me. I hate ordering a burger and having to remove the pickled gherkin. And tomato. And sliced onion. And lettuce. And bun.
Re:Dumb idea (Score:4, Insightful)
Sometimes I'm just reading the menu. Tracking what I look at or how long I'm looking at it isn't representative of my decision making process.
Ah, I think you really need to review the definition of subconcious again.
Point here is even you won't know how dumb the idea really is...until it works.
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Ah, I think you really need to review the definition of subconcious again.
Point here is even you won't know how dumb the idea really is...until it works.
Wouldn't the idea working prove that it's not a dumb idea?
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Most of the time we are just happy with whatever pizza we happen to find. Incongruently the decision on what pizza to order often seems to be one of the most paralyzing decisions anyone ever faces. I think we tend to overthink it pretty often. This seems like it could actually streamline the process. it doesn't seem to require any kind of commitment to the result. it shows you the pizza
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Most of the time we are just happy with whatever pizza we happen to find.
I like your pizza acquisition method. I'm imagining just walking along, spotting a pizza tree, being happy.
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the decision on what pizza to order often seems to be one of the most paralyzing decisions anyone ever faces
Christ, and I thought my life was a bit dull...compared to you I'm a Navy SEAL on crystal meth juggling nuclear hand grenades..
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Agreed; this idea is just stupid. I suspect someone's brother-in-law needed a job.
Good pizza? NY region, particularly NYC. (Score:2)
This.
Pizza hut's crust is awful; the thin, too thin, the thick, too thick. The cheese is devoid of all pizza-y goodness by skim and evaporation, dry and not stretchy even when still hot -- nothing like the real Mozzarella you'd find in the cheese combination that tops an honest NY pizza. They use salad mushrooms -- uncooked, raw, stiff things -- that they top the pizzas with, instead of cooked mushrooms. I mean, heck, if your palate demands salad mushrooms, fine, but they don't even offer correct pizza 'shr
...and the problem was...? (Score:3)
I can't say that I've ever considered it painful, or at all problematic in the slightest degree, to select toppings for my pizza. This isn't a solution to a problem. It is, however, a gimmick that will create a problem.
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It's not solving YOUR problem. It's solving Pizza Hut's problem of slow people in line taking time to select what they want.
Pizza Hut is a sit down restaurant where you're served by a waiter/waitress here in the UK. I don't understand why you'd be queuing up to select your food unless it's a takeaway, but who wants to eat a greasy, sloppy pizza while walking/driving along?
Must be a cultural thing.
4896? (Score:2)
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I'm sorry, button and portobello aren't available on the same pizza. Seems they fight in the box. The red stuff isn't tomato sauce, it's mushroom blood.
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Logic fail (Score:5, Funny)
a Pizza Hut spokesperson said in a statement, "so that the focus of dining can be on the most important part — the enjoyment of eating!"
Anyone who cares about the enjoyment of eating wouldn't be in a Pizza Hut in the first place.
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De gustibus non disputandum: Domino's Tests Limits Of What Humans Will Eat - YouTube [youtube.com]
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I don't mind pizza hut. Pizza is pizza,
Says someone who must never have eaten actual good pizza. Pizza Hut's pizza is really nothing like, say, the pizza I've eaten from a pizzeria in Naples where the pizzas are thin-crust, baked in an oven that's about 1000 degrees F for maybe a minute or so. But hey, that's probably too high of a standard. Pizza Hut's pizza is nowhere near the top of my list of "decent" pizzerias in the U.S., either.
and if you have kids and they get to eat cheaply/free, all the better
That's nice and all, but I can also make my own crust in about 5 minutes, let is sit overnight in the fridge,
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Says someone who must never have eaten actual good pizza. Pizza Hut's pizza is really nothing like, say, the pizza I've eaten from a pizzeria in Naples where the pizzas are thin-crust, baked in an oven that's about 1000 degrees F for maybe a minute or so.
If was Naples wouldn't that be degrees C?
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If was Naples wouldn't that be degrees C?
The official regulations [pizzanapoletana.org] state minimum oven temperatures as 430 degrees C for the oven floor and 485 degrees C for the oven dome, with a bake time of 60-90 seconds.
That's MINIMUM of ~800F for the oven floor and minimum 905F for the air temp, to qualify as authentic Neapolitan pizza. In practice, many ovens are higher than this. I was just stating an approximation.
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That's nice and all, but I can also make my own crust in about 5 minutes, let is sit overnight in the fridge, take it out and toss it the next day, top it with whatever toppings I want -- with whatever quantities I want, choosing whatever quality toppings I want to buy -- and throw it into my oven on the hunk of pre-heated steel that best simulates a Neapolitan experience in a home oven.
So you can't have it out of a 1,000 degree oven, so you're going to put it into one that struggles to reach 500 and which heats your house in the process whether you like it or not? To be a proper hipster you're going to have to at least put it on a stone on your BBQ, which you can get well up into the sevens if it's any good.
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So you can't have it out of a 1,000 degree oven, so you're going to put it into one that struggles to reach 500 and which heats your house in the process whether you like it or not?
My home oven easily tops out over 550 with normal bake cycle on. I have multiple thermometers I use to measure it, so yes, I know what temp it is. If I put the broiler on before throwing in the pizza, I can get it even hotter. (I'm not willing to break the lock and use the self-cleaning cycle as some do -- I value my home insurance.)
But the biggest difference is the steel. Sorry, but stones just don't cut it. I didn't realize this until I got one a year ago or so, but having baked pizzas for many yea
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Your authentic Naples pizza was also not $8.99.
In Naples, yeah, it was something like 3 to 5 Euro at many places. Pizza is VERY cheap there. Granted, those are for large-ish single serving pizzas, but yeah, they were less than $8.99. For that price in Naples, you'd get the fancy pizza with the expensive toppings... unless you went to some "upscale pizzeria" with a view and nice table serving, rather than the common hole-in-the-wall places that are world-renowned for their pizza.
What 8.99 will get you is Pizza Hut or something from Walmart. If you're gonna be that cheap, just go to Little Seizures and get the same crap for $5.
Uh, I make pizza at home all the time. I often buy top-quality flour in
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You can get a large one topping pizza from Pizza Hut for $9.99. The only pizzas that are 1/4th the cost of that are the cardboard-crust, artificial cheese pizzas at Walmart.
As I replied to a previous post, I can easily make a large pizza with no toppings (other than cheese or sauce) for less than $3 with decent (not top-of-the-line, but better than your pizza joint is using) ingredients at home, and I do it every week.
Topping prices will vary a lot. But just a few months ago I had a dinner party with 7 adults, made 4 largeish pizzas with varied toppings (including some "fancy" things from artichokes to organic microgreens, along with fresh basil from the garden, pepperoni,
powerful, it says (Score:5, Funny)
I was dubious until I read this sentence.
"The menu then uses a powerful mathematical algorithm to identify, from 4896 possible ingredient combinations, the customer's perfect pizza."
When I found out that it wasn't just any mathematical algorithm, but rather a powerful one, then I knew that this would be the ordering technology for me.
The only catch seems to be that the end result will be always be a Pizza Hut product.
Father and Son Talk (Score:2)
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The only catch seems to be that the end result will be always be a Pizza Hut product.
If you got into a sort of Zen trance state and emptied your mind, you could end up with no pizza at all.
Time tracking is a *bad* metric (Score:5, Interesting)
Time tracking is a *bad* metric.
As someone who is trying to choose my last topping on an N-topping pizza deal, I will spend my absolutely most time trying to choose between the last two toppings, unsure of which one of the two I want more. That will push those two toppings way up on the list, inflating their supposed value to me, when in fact, they are chosen last precisely because they have less value than anything else to me.
This seems like a way to sell extra toppings for an up-charge.
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This seems like a way to sell extra toppings for an up-charge.
How is that not a feature? (assuming Pizza Hut's point of view of course)
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This seems like a way to sell extra toppings for an up-charge.
How is that not a feature? (assuming Pizza Hut's point of view of course)
Just copying McDonalds "do you want fries with that" suggestive selling.
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Yeah; I was thinking the same thing -- the majority of my toppings don't change from one visit to the next, so I don't even have to look at them. Then the current deal combos come into play, and finally those last few topping choices that I sometimes agonize over (hmm... green peppers AND mushroom is much more expensive than just one or the other on a pepperoni pizza -- which do I prefer today?)
And yeah; this system will get my order right 100% of the time, as I don't like Pizza Hut's crusts or sauces (so
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And yeah; this system will get my order right 100% of the time, as I don't like Pizza Hut's crusts or sauces (so never make it as far as the topping selection).
Really? Any of them? I am not a frequent Pizza Hut consumer but from my experiences as a captive audience (hotels, airports and the like) I can tell you that both vary widely. You know how most chains have one version of their products which are sold to everyone, so that they are consistent and uniform? Pizza hut ain't one of those chains. I've had drastically different crust in particular.
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This is not the same thing as saying either are very pleasant unless you're hungover and ravenously hungry.
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Except that in this case you're just looking at everything, rather than trying to specifically select N toppings. So if you just relax and stop trying to count to N, they'll do that part for you, and you don't have to think so hard about what your Nth-most-favorite item is on the menu. In other words, I think this technique precisely solves the thing you're objecting to.
While also being a little creepy.
And probably offering me the bacon-ham-sausage-canadian bacon-pepperoni pizza I'd *like* to order but don'
which toppings they look at longest. (Score:2)
Or maybe I was looking at the fly on the menu board and wondering if I wanted to eat there, and no you can't have my retina scan without permission.
I wondered what our future would be like (Score:2)
I always wanted to live to see where technology and general human advancement would take us.
Now that I know, I think I'll go off myself.
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Wait! Stop! Don't!
It gets better in the future, you'll see [joeydevilla.com]!
Dine in Pizza Hut? (Score:2)
I don't remember the last time I saw a dine-in Pizza Hut; I thought they've all converted to takeout / delivery only.
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There's one near me. Of course, the only reason I know this is because there's a good fish fry place right next door. I haven't actually entered the Pizza Hut, but can tell from the outside that it's dine in.
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I just realized my town has a Pizza Hut the other day. I've lived here for 7 years and drive by it occasionally, but I must have blocked it out. Never even been tempted to go inside.
Success rate is the interesting bit (Score:2)
One can imagine all sorts of objections to this ("I take too long", "I like staring at onions, but I don't like eating them", etc...), however a self-reported 98% success rate -- or at least, 98% of the time they end up with a pizza with their preferred ingredients and/or that they end up really liking -- would explain why Pizza Hut decided to roll ahead with this -- seemingly weirdly ahead of its time -- tech right away.
98% approval suggests that browsing an appetite are more firmly linked. If the numbers
not enough data (Score:2)
Success rate may not really mean much. It could also mean :
1. Toppings are in such small quantity, that too with flavour leeched out of them, that non-topping-ingredients might decide the majority of taste / satisfaction.
2. 98% say they liked their pizza after ordering this way - but maybe they would have liked any pizza? There needs to be a control group which is served the pizza that the algorithm finds least "good" for them. The very fact that they chose to order this way might mean they are not particul
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Unless you're a vegetarian, or allergic to tomatoes and cheese or something, any pizza they serve is going to taste pretty similar.
Tea-smoked forest truffles, goat vindaloo and sliced durian fruit are unlikely to be options.
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Not exactly.
1. Somewhere like Pizza Hut isn't going to offer anything very exotic as a topping choice,
2. so
3. it's hardly surprising that most pizzas are perfectly acceptable.
Doesn't follow. While both parts 1 and 3 of you sentences are correct, the "so" doesn't fit at all. Are you saying the vast majority of non-exotic pizzas in the world are acceptable? Or non-exotic-ness causes acceptability? Both are pretty difficult positions to argue for.
Unless you're a vegetarian, or allergic to tomatoes and cheese or something, any pizza they serve is going to taste pretty similar.
Ok, so assume no special needs like allergy or restricted diet. Still, all non-exotic pizzas don't taste similar - cheese and tomato both are non-exotic yet taste wildly different from each other.
Only low quantity of toppings a
Congratulations (Score:2)
- Wait, what? I just had to read is slowly because I forgot my glasses
- To cancel, just look at rectangle with Cancel printed inside within next 2s
- Cancel, cancel, where the hell is it?!
- This will be $1500. Thank you for using our new subconscious menu!
It's a Nutrimatic pizza dispenser (Score:3)
And I bet it delivers something that is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike pizza.
By the Krell! Wrong SF (Score:2)
Just bring back text menus (Score:2)
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If fast food places didn't have pretty pictures on their menus, how would they show you just what your food won't look like?
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Once upon a time I meant to build a web site that compared pictures of the food you ordered to pictures of the food you got.
I think I was partly inspired by some McBurger that had less than 50% overlap between layers of ingredients, and a pile of ketchup blasted onto the side of the container rather than into the sandwich.
Later I concluded I didn't have the time or energy for something that pointless.
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Someone has already done this: http://www.alphaila.com/articles/failure/fast-food-false-advertising-vs-reality/ [alphaila.com] The real life burgers look really pathetic next to the "ad burger."
This would be a great idea if... (Score:5, Insightful)
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So, I'm not sure what problem this technology is supposed to solve.
It solves the problem of dining with my brother. Who on more than one occasion finally decides what he wants after everyone has given up on him, given the waiter our orders, and had our meals served to us. It's not like he's picking his final meal or anything. I would love it if the max ordering time was 5 sec, when I'm with family.
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It is meant to solve the single solitary problem pizza hut has ever been interested in solving: how to make more money. Just as a curiosity everyone now wants to order a pizza to see if it really works. They may keep ordering for a while before the novelyt wears off. There may be psychological biases in which people think the pizza tastes better. If nothing else, everyone is now talking about getting a pizza they will like by going to Pizza Hut.
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It's pizza for Stephen Hawking!
Pizza Trough (Score:2)
At first I was offended, because apparently, if I like to peruse the menu, I'm some sort of "problem" that needs to be "fixed". But then I realized that I haven't eaten at Pizaa Hut in 12 years, mainly because of their factory approach to dining. Herd 'em in. Get the pizza down their throats as quickly as possible. Herd 'em out. Pizza Hut? More like Pizza Trough. Who cares what they do? Just one more reason to avoid the place.
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At first I was offended, because apparently, if I like to peruse the menu, I'm some sort of "problem" that needs to be "fixed". But then I realized that I haven't eaten at Pizaa Hut in 12 years, mainly because of their factory approach to dining. Herd 'em in. Get the pizza down their throats as quickly as possible. Herd 'em out. Pizza Hut? More like Pizza Trough. Who cares what they do? Just one more reason to avoid the place.
You are clearly a gentleman and a scholar like myself.
It's Mickey D's for us, every time. Black tie only.
Auto sales in the future (Score:3)
Salesperson: congratulations on your new car purchase! (unknowing) Buyer: But I was just looking at this car!?! Salesperson: Yes, so our software determined you wanted to buy this car, so we've already signed you up for a loan!
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That would be beautiful! You wouldn't have to pay the loan back because you never agreed to it. They are, however, allowed to give you that car without you buying it.
Nope. (Score:2)
How do I use my eyes to tell them I want sausage, EXTRA cheese, a shitload of garlic, mushrooms on ONLY HALF of the pizza, and for them to cook it "well done" (aka, properly)?
I found their algorithm! (Score:2)
function pickPizza {
return { crust -> chewy, toppings -> [ 'pepperoni', 'extra cheese']};
}
Hmmm... (Score:2, Funny)
So it reads your mind (Score:2)
Does that mean it knows you would much rather eat somewhere else?
Re:No It Reads Your Face (Score:2)
Obg. Douglas Adams quote (Score:2)
“After a fairly shaky start to the day, Arthur's mind was beginning to reassemble itself from the shell-shocked fragments the previous day had left him with.
He had found a Nutri-Matic machine which had provided him with a plastic cup filled with a liquid that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea.
The way it functioned was very interesting. When the Drink button was pressed it made an instant but highly detailed examination of the subject's taste buds, a spectroscopic analysis of the subject's
no "Minority Report" references yet? (Score:2)
I tried it... (Score:2)
But I kept getting 1/2 clip art of a girl holding a pizza, and 1/2 copyright notice.
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pizza hut could stick a probe into my mouth to measure which toppings produce the most salivation, and i could order my pizza that way.
They tried that, but I heard the employee they hired to do the probing was a little pissed about his new job title.
Apparently "Tonsil Jockey" has more than one meaning. Who knew...
Re:I wont read TFS (Score:5, Insightful)
The conclusion is deceptive. They say 98% of people get ingredients they love. But that could be by chance since 98% of people probably like ANY pizza that does not contain anchovies.
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It's not exactly a difficult problem to overcome, but I can see why they might not care. If it makes 98% of people happy, either the algorithm is good enough fo
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the customer is an average male and the cashier is a lovely lady with a large bust.
A pizza with all whole-milk cheese toppings?
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Anchovies, capers, olives, garlic, chillies, and a boiled egg are all the toppings you need.