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South Korean Activist To Drop "The Interview" In North Korea Using Balloons 146

Siddharth Srinivas writes Park Sang Hak, a North Korean democracy activist, said he will start dropping 100,000 DVDs and USBs with Sony's The Interview by balloon in North Korea as early as late January. He's partnering with the U.S.-based non-profit Human Rights Foundation, which is financing the making of the DVDs and USB memory sticks of the movie with Korean subtitles.
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South Korean Activist To Drop "The Interview" In North Korea Using Balloons

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  • by damn_registrars ( 1103043 ) <damn.registrars@gmail.com> on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @03:51PM (#48707409) Homepage Journal
    Are there 100,000 DVD players or PCs in private hands in North Korea? This doesn't seem like it is likely to have much effect.
    • by jfdavis668 ( 1414919 ) on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @03:56PM (#48707457)
      Make sure it has the right location zone.
    • by Frosty Piss ( 770223 ) * on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:01PM (#48707495)

      DVD players are quite common in the North, the government produced a wide range of propaganda for public consumption. Computers, less so, but remember, they are connected to what is essentially a locked down "intranet".

      • They're more common than you'd think. This isn't the first movie to be sent to North Korea. These groups (many of them staffed and financially backed by North Korean defectors) have been sending a steady diet of South Korean dramas and K-pop [livescience.com] to North Korea for several years now. It's actually what convinced many of them to defect - it made them realize their government had been lying to them about South Korea being a pauper nation.
    • A lot of them have dvd players and tvs, so they can watch dvds of the "Glorious Leader" or whatever he calls himself nowadays.

      And you can bet they watch the propaganda, because in North Korea, TV watches YOU!.

      • by magarity ( 164372 ) on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:24PM (#48707691)

        And you can bet they watch the propaganda, because in North Korea, TV watches YOU!.

        Worse, in North Korea your neighbor watches you. People can get executed, or worse, for possessing one of these DVDs or even finding one laying on the ground and picking it up when the wrong person is passing by at the same time. I wonder if this "activist" cares about that at all.

        • When I was stationed there the north did similar with pamphlets all the time. As an american solder we would pick them up, unable to read them. I asked a Korean solder what it said and he wouldn't even look at it and told me to get rid of it. The south wasn't (20+ years ago) much different.

        • by rtb61 ( 674572 ) on Thursday January 01, 2015 @01:11AM (#48710069) Homepage

          The are two points of view on that. Most certainly the people of North Korea are suffering under the egotistical and lust driven machinations of psychopaths but it is the people of North Korea who are ultimately responsible for their being victims. The people of North Korea are teaching the rest of us a very valuable lesson, cowardice and obedience bring horrible punishments to by far the majority far worse than the suffering of a minority, two minorities, the minority who died bringing an end to the minority who killed them and that minority who dies being a necessary part of the majority who resist.

          So always choose to resist or become North Koreans living in fear and misery trapped by their own cowardice. Never ever allow your 'Political Leaders' to demand respect from the electorate, always demand that you 'Political Representatives' respect the electorate. Next time someone talks about political leaders rather than political representatives, demand they bend over and give them a swift kick up the arse for being idiots. In a democracy you never ever elect people to lead you, you elect them to represent you, otherwise you are destined to become another North Korean.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I read through this report the other day:
      Report of the detailed findings of the commission of inquiry on human rights in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea - A/HRC/25/CRP.1
      http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/CoIDPRK/Pages/ReportoftheCommissionofInquiryDPRK.aspx

      From that document it sounded like watching/selling unapproved dvds was a major reason for people to go to the prison camps. So it can't be that rare. The report estimates that 50% had watched a foreign DVD by 2012:

      214. All CDs and DV

    • by bbsguru ( 586178 )
      It is true that there are more than a dozen DVD players in North Korea.

      Some of those may even be within reach of the electricity needed to run them.

      Perhaps a few of them can be shared?

      Oh yeah. This is surely how you get a political movement started.

      Hey, here's an idea that doesn't depend on things they don't have: how about we send them written copies of some other incendiary and thought-provoking ideas. You know, like maybe someone's Constitution? Perhaps a religious text? How about two or three h

      • According the the CIA's Web site (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/kn.html) the literacy rate in North Korea is 100%. Dropping pamphlets would make much more sense than dropping DVDs & USB sticks. This seems to be a publicity stunt, or an ego trip, more than a real attempt to sow dissatisfaction within North Korea.

        • by Megol ( 3135005 )

          Even the children born and raised inside the worst kind of camps learn to read. They don't learn much more than that but given that they'll never exit the camp (not even as dead) and will never work with something qualified that is enough... :/

      • by lgw ( 121541 )

        There have been many such balloon propaganda efforts - I think the religious ones are common. This is just the latest, and perhaps funniest. Don't underestimate the value of mocking the dictator - it seems petty here, but in a world where no one ever does that, it's powerful. This particular movie is pretty lame, but don't they actually kill KJU off at the end? That's a nice message there.

        • There have been many such balloon propaganda efforts - I think the religious ones are common. This is just the latest, and perhaps funniest. Don't underestimate the value of mocking the dictator - it seems petty here, but in a world where no one ever does that, it's powerful. This particular movie is pretty lame, but don't they actually kill KJU off at the end? That's a nice message there.

          There's also the fact that whatever NK has been selling it's population about the west will have nothing to do with reality. The two main characters will humanize westerners, the portrayal of Kim will contradict his mystique, and the production value will hurt the effectiveness of NK productions.

          It's definitely a long shot at making any positive difference, but I don't think it's a complete write-off. Media can be powerful, maybe this does provide an opportunity for some North Koreans to bond over poking fu

      • by Anonymous Coward
        NK actually has a pretty decent literacy rate, even if there isn't a very wide range of materials for them to read.
        They have to have some way of reading the messages that their Glorious Leader throws at the, probably.
    • by Charliemopps ( 1157495 ) on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:17PM (#48707641)

      Are there 100,000 DVD players or PCs in private hands in North Korea? This doesn't seem like it is likely to have much effect.

      http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-6... [guim.co.uk]

      They don't even have electricity... so I doubt it.

    • Actually due to close ties with China, people in North Korea (official DPRK) have access to android phones and even tablets,
      just look at the talk from Will Scott which he gave on this years 31c3 at Hamburg.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    • by mysidia ( 191772 )

      Seen what North Korea looks like [nationalgeographic.com] at night?

      In North Korea, less than 25% of the population has any access to electric power. I doubt if there will be a whole lot of DVD watching..... maybe in schools, or when the rich guy down the street has a party and invites the whole street block to his/her showing of the DVD.

    • The North Korean people do have access to DVD players and computers. North Korea isn't in the stone ages when it comes to some technology as some people have access to cell phones. One of main problems has been a lack of enough food and totalitarian control of outside communication like the Internet . In this Frontline report [pbs.org], blackmarkets items include DVDs and thumb drives smuggled from China (24:20).
  • That way I don't have to pay for it, I heard it's not that good.
  • I say we load up every B-2 bomber in our inventory with these DVDs, millions of boxes of Milk Duds, and glitter, and 'carpet bomb' the whole of NK with it all. Maybe that would teach that fat bastard Kim some humility.
    • Nuke them with the DVDs from the orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
  • Work Camps (Score:3, Insightful)

    by pawned ( 2673579 ) on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:05PM (#48707537)
    And how many innocent NK citizens will be consigned to labor camps, for possessing imperialist propaganda blaspheming the "Great Leader?"
    • And how many innocent NK citizens will be consigned to labor camps, for possessing imperialist propaganda blaspheming the "Great Leader?"

      Ten or more years ago, probably a lot. These days, not so much the case. It was always the case the NKs, even in the bad old days would contact people to alter their state supplied radios to pick up SK broadcasts. Currently VHS is fairly common as are SK soap operas smuggled in from China whose border became porous as people looked for food in the 90's. Where defectors used to be quite rare and usually only the upper elite who ran because their lives were in danger, these days, the flow of normal people thr

    • by Anonymous Coward

      compared to having to watch that movie a labor camp will be a pleasant walk in the park.

  • by future assassin ( 639396 ) on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:07PM (#48707557)

    that pick them up and get executed.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:10PM (#48707577)

    We have to subject them to Seth Rogen, too?

  • I assume the group involved is at least paying Sony a wholesale price for those DVDs. (Which I didn't think had been released yet enyway)
    Surely they wouldn't engage in piracy. :-)
       

  • by Tsolias ( 2813011 ) on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:12PM (#48707603)
    I'd rather drop 100.000 bags w/ food over Africa than try to impress the public with idiotic moves, or drop 100.000 DVDs full of e-books rather than a piece of useless crap to entertain several thousands for a couple of hours.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Dumping food on countries kills off the local farms, causing even greater food insecurity.

      Think before you drop bags of food on people's heads, crushing their farm animals and houses.

      • by dissy ( 172727 )

        Think before you drop bags of food on people's heads, crushing their farm animals and houses.

        As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!

        • As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!

          You deserve to be modded up just for that obscure '70 reference. I deserve to be modded up because I recognized it.

    • He's a North Korean. He's doing it to help his fellow citizens. Will it help them? I don't know.
  • It's as if North Korea is such a backwater that they don't have 40 GB/s Net2 service like ... oh, wait, neither does the US ... my bad.

  • by bloodhawk ( 813939 ) on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:29PM (#48707751)

    I feel sorry for north Koreans, haven't they suffered enough? Being given that dogshit movie could count as a war crime.

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      NK should get even by re-editing the movie to make it actually entertaining, and sending it back.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    No one could predict what would happen when North Koreans finally saw The Interview. After deposing the Kim Dynasty, the Norks installed a new government, a "Brotacracy" where rule was determined by whoever in the country could drink the most alcohol and live. All propaganda was outlawed, and television became a continuous stream of dick jokes and scantily clad women. And worshiped all men was the Great Rogan, the Light-Bringer, and His Prophet Franco, who bequeathed to the Church of Nork the great commandm

  • I somehow doubt that the North Korean regime would react sympathetically.
  • Sony has only released this movie via streaming and a few theaters so far. Where are they planning on getting these DVD's and USB copies? Are we talking pirated copies? If so then could Sony and North Korea at some point be on the same side in protesting this scheme? Copyright law makes for some strange bedfellows.
  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @06:18PM (#48708363)
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  • by stox ( 131684 ) on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @07:04PM (#48708657) Homepage

    that this movie is a bomb?

  • Great minds think alike. Don't forget to include portable DVD players!
  • It's like AOL all over again.

  • I mean seriously, that's just a bad movie. Apparently even so bad it mostly discredits its makers.

    If you want do spend thousands of Euros to drop DVDs, drop something more intelligent. Something that actually makes people think, not something the government can easily discredit as the product of some deranged individuals.

  • now north koreans will know what stankdick is.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    "Hey guys, look how great we are! Here's a terrible comedy making really bad jokes at your expense and where we graphically murder your ruler as part of a secretive CIA plot! Woot democracy!

    It'd be like the US sending King Ralph into the UK as Republican propaganda.

  • by MitchDev ( 2526834 ) on Thursday January 01, 2015 @11:12AM (#48711601)

    it's a Seth Rogan movie, isn't making someone watch it a crime against humanity?

  • And just plainly ignore the fact it's a commercial movie and to do what they want to do needs the explicit permission of Sony to be able to copy and distribute it...
    And they simply don't even think about the enviroment, how many of those balloons will actually end up in the hands of people instead of just being dumped in the woods and streams and affecting wildlife...
    The idea is great, but as always with a lot of those lefties, they don't think it through what the actual results are....

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