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Slashdot's Disagree Mail 264

Posted by samzenpus
from the keep-your-cool dept.
In this week's Disagree Mail, I try to show the range of messages I get. It's not all angry or insane, sometimes it's sent to us for no apparent reason. We start off a little mad, slip into a whole bunch of crazy and finish with someone who has a complaint about racism at his favorite restaurant. Read below to get started.
The last sentence in this one is what sold me.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, ******** wrote:
"I have been blocked from Slashdot. I have done nothing worthy of being banned and if you would take your head out of your ass long enough you would realize it! I have to put up with this kind of shit at work but I won't put up with it here! so here's what I demand you do: Apologize to me, both here and in a letter. Apologize to my isp, I called at yelled at them yesterday thinking it was their fault. Finally, I want a written promise that you will never do this to me or anyone else again. If you do not meet these demands in 10 business days, I will be forced to take drastic action, including but not limited to: emailing everyone I know to tell them of how you treat innocent users or reading my news else where. Your move asshole!"


I've often wondered to myself, what would you do if someone who stole from the FBI found out you were a human computer? Thanks to this woman I still don't know.

On Fri, 30 Nov, ****** wrote:
"I'm in search for one of your representatives, or National Security. I have been able to read ********** mind. I showed up at *********, in Eugene, Oregon and let him know about the money that he stole from government agencies, including the FBI, which ironically protects him. He thought I was undercover or believed I was a human computer; which he still may believe. He witnesses that his computers talk to me, as if I were one of them. I can tell what program his computers are on and what they are interlocking with most of the time. He gave me a 400 million dollar check that day, as I sat there reading his mind explaining to him what I knew. At that point he had 8-10 billion dollars of government money/funding hidden away. But after the planes went down he stole over a 100 billion. He used Mike's pin# and password to get into National Security. He helped himself into instruments and institutions, and began using them incorrectly and illegally. I am offering National Security or any Representative a lot of my money to help me put this man away. It seems he is being protected by the forces I need. He is station #3 of the HAARP Project and I'm in search for anyone ready to earn a lot of money; for actually representing the United States of America the Right Way. He's been looking into the minds of his people and brainwashing them, so he will not be seen. I can read his mind faster than any instrument, and ironically he seems he has to answer my questions like I was a machine. When I listen, I can hear him telling people he's playing God and to digest this information; or to Change their mind. Another one he uses, line one--, line two--, line three--, Lock and Load, which also seems to convince people that he is innocent. He changes the information nightly so he won't be seen, for he is a computer programmer as you will soon see. I've even tried try to get the HAARP to tune into me, so they could see me which would see him. This is just the beginning of what I know. Eugene, Oregon's FBI seem to be full of idiots or his "Change Your mind Method" is working pretty damn good. Right now I get denied as they listen to him and not me. But COME ON PEOPLE, He wrote me a $400 Million dollar check. (SO, WAKE UP! FBI, because you are obviously, virtually blind),. This Nation seems to be lacking people like me. That can discover people like ********** and his black market industry."


The next is a bit long. I'm not sure why this was sent to us or what he thought we were going to do about it. He might have a legitimate complaint but even with the vast power of the internet I can't make racist people stay away from restaurants. Calling them terrorists is a bit of a stretch too.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, ******* wrote:
Hello info@ostg.com, Happy New Year to you. Well, I ended 2004 by being called a "nigger" several times by a white terrorist in ****** on December 30. The reason I'm posting you is to seek your advice as to what rights I have in a violent verbal assault, and hate crime situation like this. What would you do if something this devilish had happened to you?

This is the second time this has happened to me in the same *******. The first time was about five years ago when I overheard a professional person using the "N" word to a white woman friend of his as they sat across from me at the bar.

She was telling him that she had found a new boyfriend and thought that things were going to work out well for her. The fellow looked at her and then said "I hope he's not a "nigger" I was astounded that he had said something so lowlife in a full club with about 20 people sitting at the bar and the rest of the tables nearby full as well.

The bartender had been living with an African American male for over five years at the time. She looked astounded, and turned to me as if she couldn't believe her ears. I turned to the white people on each side of me, and asked them if they were going to say something to the person. They are always saying that they are not prejudiced. so this would have been the perfect time for some of them to back up their words with action.

They did nothing! They just looked at each other in that silly "HUH Head" look that they utilize when they run into an idea that they had never considered before on the subject of race. The manager did come out and ask him to leave. He did so and to my knowledge he has never gone back. I have seen the fellow in other clubs where the clientele is more receptive to his modo di pensare. I did nothing official that time. This time I'm trying to determine what the best way to proceed would be. Here are most of the facts as to what occurred last Thursday, the 30th of December 2004.

I went out to ******** here in Cape Girardeau, Missouri around 2100. I sat on the north end of the bar next to several young white women. One of them was named "*******" from the ****** family here. I talked to them about various subjects for about 30 minutes and bought them some Frangelico. They had never tasted it so I thought I would let them sample something different since they were kind enough to talk to me a 58 year young African American. Most whites won't.

Then they left and a friend of mine from Birmingham Alabama called me on his cell phone. We talked for about fifteen minutes about the state of the world and how savage, and inhumane so many Americans are in their thinking when it comes to how they view others around the world.

Out of the corner of my right eye, I notice the young blond white woman to my right pushing a picture of a cute bi-racial child towards me. I picked it up and looked at it. Then I complimented the female on having a little girl that was so cute. After a few more minutes of talking to my friend, I hung up and started talking to the young blonde white woman, her female friend next to her, and her Canadian boyfriend to her right.

The blonde's name was what it is. She said she was a hair stylist at a salon here. I was telling them about how my cousin owned the Harlem Globetrotter basketball team, and how there had been a couple of streets named after my mothers family around here. I was basically giving them a quick history on some black folks who were highly respected in this area.

After about twenty minutes or so this 40ish white ball cap wearing, truck driver looking white fellow across the bar asked me when we had graduated from high school. I told him when I had graduated, and then N told him when she graduated. The white supremacist then said "One of you is right, and one of you is a fucking nigger"

I picked up my cell phone and called the police as the ********* manager was not on the scene. I had no idea what that piece of white trash would do next. After a few minutes Ed, the manager came over to the WS, and told him that he had to leave the club.

The fellow got up and slowly walked toward the door selling wolf tickets all the way. The policeman arrived and he stood in the vestibule and talked to the manager of *******. He never came over and asked me anything; nor did he advise me of my rights in that situation.

I'm one of the charter members of ******* here. I have been going there since about six months after they opened in 1991, and I've never had a serious incident like this one

So I went back to talking to the three people. Now of course we were talking about the white supremacist and his actions. One white 20ish female caught my eye, grinned and gave me the thumbs up sign. Apparently she was happy that he was gone.

After about 20 minutes, another young white female stopped behind me and told me that the fellow was still in the parking lot in his truck. None of the other white men there, except for the canadian fella I was talking to had anything positive to say to me, and they said nothing to the WS who started the whole incident. Why am I not surprised?

So I called the police department again. I relayed the information to the police and sat back once more. After a few minutes the officer arrived and for the second time, the ******** manager met him in the vestibule, and they talked for a few minutes. Again, the policeman never came over to talk to me at all. Now I really felt something odd was going on because I'm the one doing the calling, but no one wants to talk to me. Is that normal police procedure now across the USA?

Nicole was very quiet while the white guy was calling me a nigger. She got on her cell phone and called her biracial boyfriend and told him to come by. The other couple got Up and left after a half hour or so. Then this attractive light skinned black man about 25 came in and Nicole snuggled up in his arms as he sat down beside her.

She told him what had happened and he began telling us what all behind he would have kicked had it been done to him. He told me he was a criminal and didn't play that sort of mess. The more we discussed it the more they seemed to try to blame me for everything. I asked Nicole why she had become such a chatterbox now that her black boyfriend had arrived. She laughed and said that she felt safe now. They continued spewing out all sort of nonsense about race that mentally confused Bi-racials, and uninformed Caucasians tend to do. So after fifteen minutes of listening to their ignorance, I told them I had to go. I wished them a happy New Year and walked outside to the parking lot.

I saw the truck was still there. So when I left I drove around town in a random manner for about fifteen minutes to see if I was being followed. When I felt that I wasn't I headed on home and called it a night. I decided to stay home for New Years eve as I didn't want to run into any more of these beer drinking, ball cap wearing rabid, mad dog, psychotic folks like I had the night before. I didn't want to start the New Year being a victim, or being in jail for harming some piece of trash.

I haven't heard anything at all from ******** yet. I'm not surprised however. They didn't say or do anything when I called them about the first incident.

So there you have it. What should I do in this situation? What are my rights? I've emailed ****** twice, and spoke to them twice, but so far they have done nothing.

I think an apology is owed and reparations should be given. I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your time to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions if you think there is a fair and just remedy for me here. Amicably Yours If you have a interest in being helpful to me then, email me at *******"

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  • on the front page, messing everything
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Making fun of mentally ill people - how noble of you. Not.

    • by Otter (3800)
      Mod this up. At least it's better than the old days when RobLimo would "interview" obviously deranged people for everyone's amusement.
    • by ElectricTurtle (1171201) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:28PM (#24677139)
      Oh no! /. has offended a whiny, oversensitive commissar of the politically correct! He/she has ridden in on his/her redoubtable white steed to defend the honor of some random crazy person from the internet! Hail and godspeed hero crusader! Give me a break.
      • by Hal_Porter (817932) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:50PM (#24677527)

        Oh no! /. has offended a whiny, oversensitive commissar of the politically correct!

        He/she has ridden in on his/her redoubtable white steed to defend the honor of some random crazy person from the internet! Hail and godspeed hero crusader!

        Give me a break.

        That's not the point. In much the same way it's not cool to kick over wheel chairs or trip the blind it's also not cool to troll mad people or laugh at their ravings in public.

        It's really a question of taste and sportsmanship, not political correctness.

        • by liquidpele (663430) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @02:09PM (#24677881) Journal
          You're half right.

          It's not cool to troll mentally ill people because I believe that is a way of taking advantage of their disability, but it *is* fun to laugh at their ravings. Or am I not allowed to laugh at Bush's speeches anymore?
        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by MightyYar (622222)

          That's not the point. In much the same way it's not cool to kick over wheel chairs or trip the blind

          I'm sure glad you aren't making movies! That stuff is slapstick gold! :)

        • by CaptPungent (265721) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @03:07PM (#24678945) Journal
          BS.

          It's not acceptable to kick over wheelchairs or trip blind people because you are directly harming the person. They anonymized the emails so we have no idea who sent them in, even if they did it's a username on the internet. I'm not standing in front of the nutbag that typed all of that up and laughing in their faces. I'm chuckling at some anonymous ravings.

          The other consideration you might not have taken is that it could be a completely normal, creative person. I've done similar things before just exercising writing styles, writing about nonsense situations for no reason other than to try out something new.

        • by harryk (17509)

          In much the same way it's not cool to kick over wheel chairs or trip the blind it's also not cool to troll mad people or laugh at their ravings in public.

          It's not?

          I kid I kid...

        • by SoupGuru (723634)

          Uh, what?

          If we can't make fun of the semi-literate ravings of lunatics on the mostly anonymous world wide web, then who ARE we allowed to make fun of? No really, who?

    • by Maudib (223520) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:43PM (#24677383)

      Didn't you just do the same? GAH- Now I did!?!?! Where will the cycle end?

    • Okay, Doctor. (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      What are your qualifications for diagnosing these people based on a single letter they have written? Who, in your esteemed opinion, is an acceptable target for mockery?

      Humor is one of the ways we deal with the world so that we do not become mentally ill. Humor and compassion are not mutually exclusive.

      People who cannot find humor in the actions of the mentally ill are usually full of pity, which is much, much worse. It's an insidious way of disenfranchising the mentally ill. It is incompatible with compass

    • by Thaelon (250687) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @03:55PM (#24679847)

      Time spent avoiding offending the easily offended is time wasted.

  • by alta (1263) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:09PM (#24676765) Homepage Journal

    Wow, judging by the small number of flames you guys are getting, people must REALLY LOVE YOU.

    But then again, based on the number of flames in the poll comments, that doesn't seem to be the case.

    Maybe yall are missing some somehow. Something MUST be misconfigured. Maybe you should check your MX records. Then again, maybe not. Ignorance is bliss.

    • Same thing was said about last week only having "a whole 2 rants". So far we are at 5, perhaps just give it some time? In 52 weeks we could be at a whole 104 rants.
      • by badboy_tw2002 (524611) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @02:17PM (#24678029)

        Jesus you people are rediculous! These guys are going above and beyond the call of a /. editor to bring us this stuff. Do you really think they have time to go over thousands of emails and put it all up so you'll be happy? How much time do you think they have? Being a /. editor means spending literally minutes a day meticulously researching submitted posts for dupes, checking spelling, revising incomplete submissions, looking up rules of grammar, fact checking, source checking, etc. etc. And now that they take a few minutes out of their 23 hours of free time to bring you a little laughter from retarded people and misdirected emails, all your can do is complain? Sheesh, the nerve of some people!

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by alta (1263)

          You missed the memo. They said last year that they replaced all their editors. They heard some quote about an infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of keyboards.

          Now the procedure is, we post something to firehose, and a bunch of monkeys sit around trying to click on a submit button that moves around the page... Kinda like that annoying swat the fly flash ad, or the crosshairs on obama one.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I was thinking perhaps a separate page for this kind of thing would simply be better. No need to create a whole story for it-- just put a link at the top of the page which says "3 new slashdot nastygrams!" or something similar.

      Or we could have it bash.org style, post up the best ones and let us vote them up or down.

  • Let me guess (Score:4, Interesting)

    by dedazo (737510) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:09PM (#24676773) Journal

    The ********** on the second email was Bill Gates. Right?

    BTW, how come the input box on the reply page for this section is really small but not on the others?

    And seriously, that green background has to go.

  • trolling, duh? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SuperBanana (662181) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:10PM (#24676803)

    It's not all angry or insane, sometimes it's sent to us for no apparent reason.

    Everything is done for a reason- in this case, it's probably to try and troll Slashdot staff, though some of the babbling nonsense may be spammers; they're known for taking text off the internet and using it. Now that you're posting the emails, expect the volume to skyrocket from the people who are purposefully sending the email to you.

    I honestly don't find any values in these emails. They're either assholes or babbling idiots, neither of them interesting or funny.

    • by SuperBanana (662181) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:18PM (#24676957)
      http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2005-01/2996.html [derkeiler.com] In short, that email was sent to a bunch of techie related lists. If you had bothered to search on a phrase in the email, you would have found it too.
      • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @02:03PM (#24677775)

        I like the fact that the /. version used 'nigger' and censored 'Applebees', and the linked version did the reverse.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward
        and, because this guy annoyed half the net, someone even found out who the guy is [cyclingforums.com]
      • by ari_j (90255)
        The editors don't edit the submissions they approve. They don't check for anything in the way of factual sanity, much less correctness. They certainly don't read the articles that submissions link to. Do you really expect them to read sites for which they aren't spoon-fed a link?
    • I didn't realize I could gain publicity from this place for trolling. Now that I know...

      The holocaust was faked.

      CmdrTaco is dead.

      Evolution isn't real, God created us to fight other ethnic groups and win.

      If I don't get my own section of slashdot for this post, I'm going to turn you into the FBI for child porn.

      Maybe I should have included some random caps lock fouls. The Godwin in the subject line should be enough for something.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by pnewhook (788591)

        You amateur..

        1) Guns are for people with small penises and short man syndrome. They've done nothing but increase the crime rate not lower it.

        2) For those religious nutjobs that don't believe in evolution or the world is older than 8000 years, get over it. If you believe God not only created the world for our sole enjoyment, but created it in one big magic flash with light from distant stars and galaxies already in transit to trick us or test our faith, then you must have a very small opinion of God or an

    • by HardCase (14757)

      I get 'em all the time, too, and I own a piddly little insignificant web site. But what's worse than the trollish emails is the god-awful white on green format of idle.slashdot.

      The tiny little comment box is kind of cute, though.

  • by Animaether (411575) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:12PM (#24676821) Journal

    you want to see hate mail? Well, technically, not mail - but try the last time this stuff got posted to front page:
    http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/13/2336232 [slashdot.org]

    Plenty of hate.

    Thankfully, you can hide Idle. Customize > Sections, set Idle to the left-most radiobutton option, click the button in the bottom and.. ahhh, bliss.

  • That's insane?

    Wow, it's eerie how mentally-unstable peoples' ramblings sound astoundingly similar to Nigerian spam. No kidding either, it's creepy to me!

  • Take the $400 mil and hop a jet to someplace warm and sunny.

    Your move, asshole!

  • Can we keep the Idle stuff off the front page?
  • by aquatone282 (905179) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:15PM (#24676905)

    . . . to the "Lame" section, because the few times I've visited I've always left thinking "Man, that was lame.

  • in the TotalSlashdot section!

  • Question:, how I do I stop the comment bar from pinning itself on this page layout? The little down arrow clicky isn't there, and I can't find it's equivalent. (It's a small thing, but annoying like a sore tooth I can't stop poking at)

  • Yeah. (Score:4, Funny)

    by juuri (7678) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:30PM (#24677179) Homepage

    How about we just pretend these two idle postings to the front page never happened and return to our usual flaming of microsoft, apple, and wondering when esr is going to start using a proper deodorant.

    Seriously? Guys? This is complete FAIL.
     

  • Not funny... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by MojoRilla (591502) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:33PM (#24677239)
    The second email seems to be from a bipolar or schizophrenic woman who is having severe delusions. I know because a relative of mine who has been diagnosed as bipolar has had similar delusions.

    Instead of posting the email and laughing at this poor woman, why don't you try to get her help?
    • I assumed it was some sort of bot, similar to those that post to Usenet every so often.

  • by sjonke (457707) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:35PM (#24677255) Journal

    I didn't say anything the first time, but this time.... Really, how do you follow up the first Disagree Mail with something even worse even when you know you're going to get hammered for it? Let's all hope this is the last Disagree Mail episode, because it obviously isn't going to get any better.

  • Dear editor... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by aug24 (38229) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:35PM (#24677263) Homepage

    Please take this idle shit off the RSS feed.

    Ta muchly,
    Justin.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Yes, please. It's great that idle is separate from the rest of /. -- if only it were also separate from the rss feed. And the whole internet.
  • Human Computers (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sm62704 (957197) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @01:37PM (#24677291) Journal

    A little history: [kuro5hin.org] Before ENIAC was engineered, a "computer" was a human being whose job was to do math, e.g. making ballistics tables for artillery, etc.

    During WWII the military employed hundreds, perhaps thousands, of human computers.

    Frank herbert called them "Mentats".

    BTW and OT, the black on dark green on this screen is unreadable to geezers (and possibly to young people as well). I really wish you guys would fix that, thx.

  • I don't need to read yet more crap on slashdot. Especially when it isn't even funny.

  • All the angry /. people posting angry rants about white text on green (which I quite like) and how oppressed they are by an item appearing on the front page of /. that they don't want to read. If I were you I'd just tell them 'We must pick up our crosses daily."
    • by CaseyB (1105)

      On the other hand, I haven't seen such unanimous disdain for a series of slashdot articles since Jon Katz. Is it still ungrateful whining if *everyone* is doing it?

  • by Experiment 626 (698257) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @02:04PM (#24677791)

    I must confess, I am the computer programmer identified as "**********" in the second letter who used Mike's Pin# and password to steal 100 billion dollars from National Security and who has been reading people's minds and brainwashing them.

    Thanks to this human computer discovering my evil scheme, and the Slashdot editors posting it for all the world to see, it appears I have to do some damage control to keep my "black market industry" a secret. I am now forced to take drastic action, including but not limited to: emailing everyone I know or reading my news else where. Your move ***hole!

  • I said it in the last Idle article, and I'll say it in this one:

    New tag: pleasestop

    Never give up, never surrender!

    -G

    • by ari_j (90255)
      I submitted a poll (or I hope I did - there is not a good interface for submitting polls) the other day:

      Which would you rather see terminated?
      - kdawson
      - idle.slashdot.org
      - both
      - Not CowboyNeal

      It'll never get posted, of course, but maybe someone will listen. It seems that Slashdot is becoming more "corporate," and of course by that I mean "mismanaged." The overall impression I get is that Slashdot has meetings to come up with new ideas, and just like many meetings of that sort, instead of acting a
      • by MRe_nl (306212)

        You should obviously have submitted that poll to Disagree
        Slashdot the other day. You could have made Frontpage today!

  • Since I actually live in Eugene, this one was kinda weird. For those of you who aren't familiar with our little part of the world, it's know for rain, runners, and an aging hippie population.

    I'm not familiar with any human computers or FBI conspiracies, but maybe those are just "his" mind control methods in action.
    • by Webs 101 (798265)
      Eugene's also known for grass seed. And the pollen that makes it.

      Whenever I visit in the summer, my allergy makes me feel like my face is going to melt.
  • Why are so many people under the impression that making racist comments is illegal?

    And oh my god, reading that white on green text made my eyes water.

  • The last e-mailer (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Kelbear (870538) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @02:45PM (#24678559)

    ...was incredibly racist.

    It was particularly damning how there were no simple "men" or "women" in that story, just Canadian men, biracial women, black boyfriends, white truck-cap wearing men, caucasian women. How is /any/ of that relevant? He's terribly fixated on race.

    • Very true. When he said "I turned to the white people on each side of me, and asked them if they were going to say something to the person," all I could think was, why would you do that? Why would you expect other people to go say something if you're not willing to go say something?

      Maybe racism is so bad in Missouri that it wouldn't be safe for him to say something in that situation? I've never been there, so I can't really say.

  • Slashdot has officially jumped the shark.
  • If this is going to continue, please consider the possibility of trimming down the long stuff to just the funny parts. Or in other words, if you can't say something funny or insightful, just don't say anything at all.
    • by tnk1 (899206)

      Given that its only three letters, I think this was the executive summary.

  • by eyrieowl (881195) on Wednesday August 20, 2008 @05:55PM (#24682101)

    why was the last one not posted on Ask Slashdot? Clearly it belongs there, not under idle. At least the discussion would be interesting....

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