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Pat Robertson Says Haitians Made a Pact WithThe Devil 92

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chipmunk82 writes "Pat Robertson has blamed Tuesday's 7.3 magnitude earthquake on the Haitians' 'pact with the devil' two centuries ago while seeking liberation from the French."

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Pat Robertson Says Haitians Made a Pact WithThe Devil

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  • Riiiiiight... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Locke2005 (849178) on Thursday January 14, 2010 @02:11PM (#30767676)
    Sure, that's a much more rational explanation than tectonic plate theory, which couldn't possibly be correct since the planet is only 6,000 years old! Obviously, sin is the root cause of all "natural disasters" or "acts of God". So, if your church gets struck by lightning [google.com], then your parishioners have got some explaining to do!
    • Re: (Score:1, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Tectonic plate theory is JUST A THEORY! But the wrath of God is empirically provable -- as evidenced by this quake and Pat Robertson's divine interpretation thereof.

      • by Locke2005 (849178)
        I believe my contention: 'Every time Pat Robertson opens his mouth, an angel gets anally raped!' is also empirically provable, by the same standards of proof.
      • by ultranova (717540)

        Tectonic plate theory is JUST A THEORY!

        Movement of tectonic plates can and has been measured, so it's not just a theory.

        But the wrath of God is empirically provable -- as evidenced by this quake and Pat Robertson's divine interpretation thereof.

        The wrath of God is not empirically provable. It is impossible to say if any particular disaster was a divine punishment or simply bad luck.

        Furthermore, according to Wikipedia, Robertson has predicted doomsday in 1982, a Pacific Northwestern tsunami in 2006, and a

      • by Ihmhi (1206036)

        I learned about Tectonic plates from Bill Nye the Science Guy. I'll trust Bill Nye over an evangelist preacher any day. At least he had a bitchin' lab coat.

    • by v1 (525388)

      that's a much more rational explanation than tectonic plate theory,

      tectonic plate theory wasn't mentioned in the bible, therefore it can't be true.

    • Re:Riiiiiight... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by happy_place (632005) on Tuesday January 19, 2010 @12:23PM (#30820386) Homepage
      Why does this guy even get a moment's notice? The true Christians were those that jumped on planes to give free medical support, and the millions who are giving generously to support a suffering people. Religious people are saving lives as we discuss this, and don't care about the spotlight, like this glory-monger.
      • by mcgrew (92797) *

        Pat Robertson is a tool. Satan's tool.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Ihmhi (1206036)

        Saying "The True $RELIGIOUS_GROUP" is a bad idea and divisive. Within every religion there are multiple sects. Fighting over things like who are the True Muslims is one of the reasons the Sunnis and Shi'ites have been kicking the crap out of each other for so many years.

        People like Pat Robertson put a black mark on the overall belief system that Christians believe in. The best thing they can do is denounce him and show him up by doing some good, which they are already doing.

    • Pat Robertson said that it was a true story that the Haitians made a pact with the devil. Does that mean that Pat Robertson is the devil since obviously he was the only other person there to witness this deal going down.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Pat Robertson hasn't been hit by lightning and/or a meteor. (yet)

    • Correction. That's evidence that there is no God. There is no proof, and therefore your theory is just that. Theory.

    • by Locke2005 (849178)
      That's not proof that there is no God, just proof that God doesn't get pissed off at people that say and do really stupid things in his name. The organizers of the Children's Crusade didn't get struck by lightning either.
    • His contract with the devil was reviewed by his lawyer first. You must have someone experienced to read the fine print before you sign.
  • Pat has a long history of saying stuff like this. He's kinda like the Fred Phelps prototype (except that he's not near the hatemonger Phelps is; just a senile old troll).
    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I classify myself as the believing type, yet every time I hear about Pat Robertson (which is rare) he's saying something that makes me roll my eyes. He (like many others), are little more than modern-day Pharisees.
  • Who would know better than Pat? He's been hand in hand with the forked one for years!

    I can't believe people still follow this mentally ill old man!

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by obarthelemy (160321)

      the sad thing is, he's probably not mentally ill, just astute enough to take advantage of the stupidity of a bunch of worshipers.

      They are the mentally deficient ones. He's a successful businessman.

  • It is easy to flippantly ridicule a comment like this. However if you actually take the time to THINK about it for a little while, it may not be so crazy after all. For the past three hundred years Hati has been in a precarious situation. However, right next door, the Domican Republic , things are much better off. Why? If you are unwilling to accept that it is in fact the work of the DEVIL, there are two options: 1) The blacks in Haiti are naturally inferior, and incapable of governing themselves. 2)
    • This is arguably still a racist viewpoint, since it implies that the people of Haiti are so far "behind" us developmentally that they absolutely need organized religion for solidarity, whereas we apparently do not.
      • I think we need guidance too. Case in point the financial crisis. At one time Americans would have had enough horse sense to realize they need to work hard, and live humbly in order to survive and produce a strong vibrant economy. Now we sit around all day watching MTV, and wondering why the government does not help us with health care. If we could get someone like Pat Roberston to convince Americans that MTV is the work of the devil, and that unless their children do well in Calculus and take LOTS of p
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by Locke2005 (849178)
          Um... does Pat Robertson "live humbly"? Did he give all his money to the poor while I wasn't paying attention? I'm pretty certain he's a multi-millionaire!

          When you look in the mirror, you see the devil?!? That's not what I see... I see a flawed but basically good human being, who doesn't need religious law to convince we'd all be better off if we act in the interest of society as a whole instead of acting in our own selfish self-interest (like Pat Robertson).
        • by Zephiris (788562)

          Given that he apparently believes that Earthquakes are the work of the devil...somehow, I don't see Pat Robertson advocating for proper physics education.
          Also, who the HELL watches MTV anymore? Seriously. I don't even think MTV4 still plays music videos (I remember when MTV2 had music videos! Gosh...and apparently I'm too young to've ever paid attention when MTV itself had music videos), and even VH1 stopped some years ago.
          Then again, I don't even know anyone who watches TV anymore, since the quality and le

    • Re: (Score:1, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I had an "opportunity" (if you want to call it that) a few years ago to talk with some Baptist missionaries who had just returned from Haiti. This statement by Robertson is absolutely in line with what those people had to say about what was going on in that country in ... I believe it was 2006 or 2007. Open worship of the devil due to a pact of long standing. These people actually believe that to be true.
      • by Faylone (880739)
        Interesting. As was mentioned above:

        ..says CNN - "Kate Ramsey, a Caribbean scholar at the University of Miami, says that the "pact to the devil" that evangelical Christian Pat Robertson suggested led to Tuesday's earthquake is a 19th century "fabrication" meant to discredit its slave rebellion and Vodou religion. "

        - http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/14/haiti.updates/index.html [cnn.com]

        When you say "these people", do you mean the missionaries or the Hatians? Are these missionaries lying or somehow confused? Is Kate Ramsey in error? Has the fabrication of the 19th century managed to become the reality of the 21st?

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by schon (31600)

          Are these missionaries lying or somehow confused?

          Neither - they're baptists. They're taught any belief other than "Jesus is god" is satan worship.

          • ...and it is, in an indirect fashion. Unless you're for Jesus(God), you're for something else, be it vodoo religions, Shinto beliefs, atheism, or other. With that said, there's only two sides. Life and sin(because good or bad, apart from God, its death/sin). Thus it is, indirectly though it may be, "Satan worship".
            • by schon (31600)

              You don't seriously believe that bullshit do you?

              If you do, here's some logic for you (I know, I know, you don't believe in logic either.)

              If belief in anything other than "Jesus is God" is Satan worship, then those who worship God but not "Jesus is God", must therefore be worshipping Satan. Therefore, God is Satan, and therefore, Jesus is Satan.

              QED.

              So by your own claim, worshipping of Jesus is the same as worshipping Satan.

              • I, being an analytically minded sort, believe wholeheartedly in logic, which you seem to have very little talent replicating. Your logic is flawed in the fact that by worshipping a "god" other than Jesus/The Father/The Spirit, you are not, in fact, worshipping God. With that corrected, yes, you are somewhat correct - worshipping god[but not Jesus/The Father/The Spirit] is, in fact, worship of something other than God. Which my original post points out to be basically Satan. But worshipping Jesus as God is
    • by haruchai (17472)

      You won't find the Devil hiding under rocks - he prefers comfort ( which is akin to laziness aka Sloth - one of the seven deadly sins).
      And if you want to find evil - look no further than the list of the filthy rich.
      As is written in the Holy Book, "the love of money is the root of all evil" and
      "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God"

      Somehow, for all their fundamentalism, these simple facts escape so many of those pious souls that hawk Heav

    • It is easy to flippantly ridicule a comment like this. However if you actually take the time to THINK about it for a little while, it may not be so crazy after all.

      If you think about it and your conclusion is that they weren't already cursed back when they were slaves to the French, but they were cursed after, I think you may need to, you know, stop, take a deep breath, and consider taking a vow of silence.

    • by Xabraxas (654195)
      Please tell me you're joking and not just an idiot.
    • by spun (1352)

      Do you know the history of Haiti? Look it up. #2 is the actual truth. It doesn't require a conspiracy, only a powerful and imperialist neighbor. You know why the Dominican Republic doesn't have Haiti's problems? Because they kissed our ass at every opportunity, and did exactly what we told them to do. Haiti didn't.

  • This is one of those people who love to stir up a storm for the heck of it. Ignore him and he will no longer matter, admittadly this wont stop him from saying stupid shit just he will be ignored. And then likely go on to host a show on fox news
    • by jd2112 (1535857)
      He's probably just mad because some of his followers are making to Hatian relief funds rather to him...
    • by LowlyWorm (966676)
      I think it better to publicize him. The more who have an understanding of him the less likely they are to believe or follow him. I see him as a representation of the extreme fundamentalist of his generation; I suspect they constitute the majority of the demographic who watch his show. As science explains away the demons and devils he sees behind every bush the next generation of believers become less and less abrasive to common sense.
    • We ignore people in general that seem to be doing no harm to society..

      So we ignore the ramblings of Joel Osteen, and he is seen as mainstream and acceptable. I'm not a fan, but I really have no issue with him.

      Ignoring the issue provides Pat an air of mainstream thought, that his ideas arent b@t$h!t insane. This makes people comfortable agreeing with his point of view. This makes people OK with making choices based on his jacked up view of the world. Leading to abhorrent behavior due to some crazy
      • What do you suggest? Censor him because his beliefs are not the same as your own? Or provide counter arguments which themselves give relevance to what he's saying?

        Look at the KKK. For the most part we ignore them. By ignoring them we make them unimportant, all the while preserving their freedom of speech.

  • Dear ceiling cat, I pray you to protect us from some's stupidity. If you need some help in this mission, I'll also pray the spaghetti monster.... Amen.
  • Did I hear him say, around 0:15, Napoleon the Third?

    There's one lone single historical fact in the whole diatribe and he can't even get that right.

    I bet he stinks of piss.

  • The Devil was freeing slaves in the 18th century while God's followers were building a society upon the institution?

    So how do you tell the difference between the two?

  • Robertson's remarks on Thursday were also considered to be inflammatory when he suggested on his television show, The 700 Club that the current situation in Haiti is a direct result of a deal Haitians made with Satan in the late 1700s.

    Robertson stated that the Haitian people in that time, "were under the heel of the French, uh, you know Napoleon the 3rd and whatever, and they got together and swore a pact to the Devil. They [the Haitian leaders] said, 'We will serve you [Satan] if you'll get us free from the French.' True story. And so the Devil said, 'Okay, it's a deal.’ And, uh, they kicked the French out, you know, with the Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by, by one thing after another, desperately poor. That island of Hispaniola is one island. It's cut down the middle. On the one side is Haiti on the other side is the Dominican Republic. The Dominican Republic is, is prosperous, healthy, full of resorts, etcetera. Haiti is in desperate poverty. Same island. They need to have and we need to pray for them a great turning to God and out of this tragedy I'm optimistic something good may come. But right now we're helping the suffering people and the suffering is unimaginable."

    Uh, you know. The french and whatever. And stuff. And then there was like, the devil thing. Satan himself, you know. Dude pass the blunt. So anyway there was like... the chinese... and opium... and they were cool... but this whole Haiti thing was full of like. You know. The french and whatever. And Haiti worshipped them. Or Satan, or whatever.

  • This is somthing that belongs on Newsvine. Let the morons discuss there.
  • If that moron had spent five minutes reading the Wikipedia article [wikipedia.org] on Haitian Voodoo, he would have realized that it is not Satanic worship at all. In fact, according to the article, it "[...] is based upon a merging of the beliefs and practices of West African peoples, with Roman Catholic Christianity, which was brought about as African slaves were brought to Haiti in the 16th century and forced to convert to the religion of their owners, while they largely still followed their traditional African beliefs[

  • Well, Pat Robertson would know all about deals with the devil.
    I mean it is not like he would forget the deal he himself made with haiti only 200 years ago.
  • An echo of the Great Lisbon Earthquake.  Once again the question arises if  God is good and omnipotent.  Pat Robertson is convinced God is (good and omnipotent) and therefore there must be a sin preceding the event.
  • ummmmm does this moron listen to the shit he says!?!? I'm in the wrong business. I could spew crap to idiots too.... maybe someone will pay me for it. Any takers? For $5 I'll send you God's love in the form of a keychain. $20 or more and I can send it to you in the form of a coffee mug. $100 will get you love from a Vietnamese prostitute, and a free T-shirt.

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