Onion Story Gets Blown Out of Proportion 641
A 3-year-old Onion video titled "Martial Law Plans Revealed?" has swept across the internet recently, and taken the gullible along with it. The video has some preaching from the highest mountain top about the evils of a government turning fascist, and an equal number explaining until red in the face what The Onion is.
Wait, wait... there are some morons on Facebook? (Score:5, Funny)
I think this is the very definition of a Slow News Day.
Re:Wait, wait... there are some morons on Facebook (Score:4, Informative)
Isn't "slow news day" what Idle is for?
Internet Stupidity Test (Score:5, Funny)
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So what do we say about the idiots that saw the faked Shirley Sharrod video up on breitbart.com and rushed to denounce her and the NAACP as racist, when in fact the original video shows the exact opposite? And by idiots, I mean both the smug race baiting liars that put this up, the Obama administration that pressured for her resignation, and the NAACP itself for falling for a breitbart/Faux news lie in the first place and denouncing her. Brietbart is the guy who destroyed ACORN with false accusations and edited video, it's what he does, and yet, the idiots in the Obama administration and the NAACP fell for it. They walked right into his trap. See, if it never came out that the video was faked, it's a win if the administration and the NAACP do not react. But since they did react, why, simply reveal the video was fake and denounce them as idiots for falling for your trap.
People will believe anything. If we had to appoint guardians for every nut-job that believed a patently obvious lie, there wouldn't be enough non-nut-job guardians to go around.
Re:Internet Stupidity Test (Score:4, Insightful)
We say that the NAACP now understands what it's like to be unfairly accused of racism, lose your job, and have nobody listen to your side of the story.
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Re:Internet Stupidity Test (Score:4, Insightful)
The NAACP never said the entire Tea Party was racist. They said that the Tea Party has never denounced the racists in their midst. The NAACP has, for instance, denounced the New Black Panther Party. And, when it looked as though Shirley Sherrod might be racist against white people, they denounced her. So, you are flat out wrong.
Re:Internet Stupidity Test (Score:4, Informative)
Idiot. She was explaining how we all have racial biases, and how class is more important than race, how she and that poor white farmer had more in common than she does with a rich black guy, how she overcame her racial biases and helped the guy out after the white lawyer she sent him to screwed up, and how the farmer and his wife are now friends of hers. The wife even went on air to defend the lady.
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I was actually watching fox news when the correction came out.
It took them about 15 seconds to go from "She is a racist" to "Now she advocates class warfare" with unwavering vitriol and disgust on the anchors faces.
You just can not win against the propaganda machine.
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Bullshit. She was explaining how she overcame her racial biases and helped the farmer after the white lawyer she sent him to screwed up. The farmer's wife even went on air to defend the lady.
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The video was taken in 1986. Please explain what a 24 year old video tells us about the NAACP of today, which has actually denounced even suspected racists in their midst.
Re:minor but important point (Score:4, Informative)
Actually, the video was from March of this year (2010) - Sherrod was relating an event that took place in 1986. Just trying to keep the facts straight (an impossible task, I know)
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What is so difficult to understand about that?
Maybe it's difficult to understand because you're wrong [wikipedia.org].
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It's derived from the same place we get the word nigger.
The two words are not derived from the same place.
Definition and history of "niggardly". [reference.com] Possibly Scandinavian origin, 14th century.
Definition and history of "nigger". [reference.com] French and Spanish origin, 17th century.
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Wow, you're over-sensitive and ignorant. The words are not etymologically related. Two seconds of research could have told you that. Niggardly comes from the same root words as "niggling details", Niggle comes from the Old Norse word "Nigla" which means, "To fuss about small matters."
However, the more inflamatory term comes from the Latin "niger," meaning "black".Although it is more likely to come from the Americanization of the Spanish version of "negro", namely negero.
Not only do they not come from the same source, they don't even come from the same root language.
Do Italians get to declare a racist epithet when someone yells out "Swap" because it's close to the sound of "wop"? I'm of German descent, can I complain when someone talks about their "route" because it's close to "kraut"?
Words mean things, and even the head of the NAACP said that people who take "niggardly" as a racial slur need to be given a dictionary.
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Calling a german kid a kraut today is meaningless - he doesn't experience any racism due to his German heritage.
In other words, racism is ok as long as the target isn't a member of an approved ethnic group.To rebut your argument here, by being called a "Kraut", the German kid is indeed experiencing racism due to his German heritage.
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You mean "root" and "kroot"?
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And why would black people have a problem with the word niggardly? It's derived from the same place we get the word nigger.
False.
Niggardly: From the Norse word nigla - "to fuss about small matters"
Nigger: From the latin Niger - "Black" through Spanish, Portuguese, or French.
They are false cognates of each other, words that sound the same but have different meanings and origins. It's entirely possible that given how common your misinformed view is that there are people who say 'niggardly' in a racist way, but from a purely linguistically and historical view there is nothing racist about the word. Ignoring that fact and calling everyone who uses the word racist is dishonest at best.
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And why would black people have a problem with the word niggardly? It's derived from the same place we get the word nigger.
Wrong. This is the problem. Just because words might sound similar, doesn't mean they come from the same place.
Nigger [etymonline.com]'s earliest appearance in English was in the 16th century, coming from the Spanish word Negro as a pejorative for blacks.
Niggardly [etymonline.com] comes from Niggard, which first appears in the 14th century and is likely to come from a Swedish word, which just means "stingy".
Re:P.S. (Score:5, Insightful)
Pretty much the entire Obama era so far has been an example of the left experiencing all the things they did to the right and an administration doing all the things Bush did. The country didn't change at all.
Pretty much the entire Obama era so far has been an example of the right projecting all the things they did onto the left and the Democrats doing all the things in the Republican's interest. The country didn't change at all.
Thought I'd fix that for you.
I find it interesting that the Republican talking points are an extreme example of projection. If they accuse someone of embezzlement, or pretty much anything, you can be sure of three things:
a. They really believe it and always will, no matter how much you point out facts that prove them wrong
b. That when said facts disagree with their worldview, they will accuse the source of being left wing and biased and therefore by definition incorrect
c. That somewhere, they are actually doing the same thing they are accusing the left of, except much more efficiently and effectively.
Examples of this would be the family values thing, the deficit thing, the not giving a fuck about the veterans thing, the being in the pocket of industry thing, the government program = welfare thing (i.e. a huge amount of the defense budget), the racism thing, the litmus test thing, the only policy being that to gain power politically thing no matter what the cost to the country thing, the voter intimidation thing, the voter fraud thing...
I could go on and on, but you get the picture. Well, probably not, but whatever. I'm going to go back and watch the continuing subjugation of our citizens to the almighty dollar. Hopefully I can continue to afford to buy popcorn.
Re:P.S. (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sorry, but how does being robbed make you guilty of vote theft? Where does that investigation show that ACORN rigged the election? How does any of this address the made up pimp video? Breitbart lied, end of story.
Re:Internet Stupidity Test (Score:4, Insightful)
How long ago was the video taken? Any idea? It was taken in 1986. So, what does a 24 year old video tell us about the NAACP of today?
spun, I suggest that you check your facts before getting off into one of your rants. It might prevent you from making a bigger fool of yourself than usual.
The video was taken on March 27, 2010, after Sherrod was appointed to the USDA (interestingly, after she and her husband received a substantial settlement from the USDA for a complaint about racism). However, the incident that she described took place back in the 1980's.
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> (they gave a false name and false state)
I'm pretty sure Pennsylvania is a real state.
Re:Internet Stupidity Test (Score:4, Funny)
If you're to fucking stupid to realize what The Onion is, or that something came from The Onion, you don't get to comment about politics. Ever.
I'd say the same about people who don't know when to use the word "to", "too", or "two".
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And we turn your name over to the health care death panel.
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NEVER! The death panels should remain in corporate hands! We have so much data showing how well that has worked out - please don't fiddle with our gravy train^W^W^W a good thing!
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I had a paper copy of the onion, with ONION printed in bold on the top for the cover story that Congress makes a law banning Metallica. I placed it on a metallica fan's desk here at work and he went ape crazy for an hour until someone told him to read all of the paper carefully.
I love my subscription to the Onion... it works great for screwing with people...
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Even if that were true (and it's not -- see some of the other replies to you) the complete lack of critical thinking skills displayed by anybody who believes this remains... disturbing to say the least. (You have no idea how tempted I was to say "classified" there.)
I mean honestly. "Classified flesh-eating?" Do these idiots truly believe that the people would leave a term like flesh-eating in there next to something classified? It's both the worst and the most descriptive term in the sentence! "A new Bill of Rights will be drafted" is silly enough on its own, but just gets worse when paired with "to be approved by classified."
I know our own history is funny enough that none of this is IMPOSSIBLE (it basically happened), but to anybody with a handful of functioning brain cells it should be more than enough to throw up red flags and start looking into things -- starting, perhaps, with the fake congressman. But instead morons treat it as a reason to start running their mouths about their terribly ill-informed opinions on fake news stories. Bravo, morons, for continuously proving why the right to speak is not bundled with the right to be listened to.
Who needs the Onion? (Score:2)
When we already have a press like this? [dailycaller.com]
That's "Blue" (Score:3, Informative)
You mean "blue in the face". Red would imply embarrassment. Those would be the other folks, not the ones getting blue in the face.
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Oh sure, turn this into a Red State/Blue State Issue ;)
Seems legit to me (Score:2)
"Should event occur in urban areas.... Jesus.... (haunted) That's.. classified."
Seriously, people are complete and total retards. And I mean that in the 3rd grade definition, not in any clinical sense. This should not be news to anyone, especially those of us who've been kicking around the internet for more than a couple of weeks.
Faux News (Score:4, Funny)
Some things never change... (Score:2)
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Heh our posts are a minute apart. Slashdot has a hive-mind too, apparently.
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It's War of the Worlds 2010.
And I've wondeded whether the reaction to the War of the Worlds broadcast made people in the US, at the time, more skeptical of radio broadcasts, thus less susceptable to broadcast propaganda than those in other countries (or audiences), and thus led to the US neutrality in WW II until the bombing of Pearl Harbor.
One thing the reaction to this item shows: The current government has some people prepared to believe that martial law and fascism are on their agenda.
Not sure if the r
It makes sense (Score:2)
After all, America is the country that was sure it was being attacked by Martians only a couple generations ago, when Orson Welles did his "War of the Worlds" radio show.
But the Onion *is* prescient! (Score:4, Insightful)
I think we ignore The Onion as a serious news source at our peril [theonion.com], especially now that mainstream media has all but abandoned serious reporting themselves. Imagine what could have been avoided if people had listened in 2001. It's like their reporters had used a fricking time machine!
Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but... (Score:4, Interesting)
...remember what they said about Gillette in February 2004 [theonion.com]? And then what happened in September, 2005 [cnn.com]?
(Now let's watch as The Onion replaces the writings of Nostradamus as the road map to an apocalyptic future.)
Re:Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but... (Score:5, Interesting)
My favorite was always the 2000 article Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over [theonion.com]... almost everything in the article came true.
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If you want to know about the future, ask a comedian. Only they have a wide enough grasp of the stupidity of people to know what the future will hold.
For a follow-up (Score:5, Insightful)
Try citing The Onion AV Club as a source on Wikipedia. No one will believe you. Condescendingly, they'll explain that The Onion is satire.
The original video: (Score:5, Informative)
Gullibility, it's what's for dinner! (Score:3, Interesting)
Moving on, our next topics are Santa Clause, Jesus, the Tooth Fairy, and honesty in government.
Poe's Law at it's best (Score:4, Informative)
Poe's Law points out that it is hard to tell parodies of fundamentalism (or, more generally, any crackpot theory) from the real thing, since they both seem equally insane. Conversely, real fundamentalism can easily be mistaken for a parody of fundamentalism.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law [rationalwiki.org]
Re:Poe's Law at it's best (Score:5, Interesting)
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Yeah, for 100% you really want CRC or some sort of forward error correction.
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I'd just like to point out that this applies equally to the extreme ends of any ideology.
Because parody attempts to take any idea to an absurd extreme, it's difficult to distinguish parody from the extreme camp of any ideology.
There was a Bush-era Onion martial law story... (Score:3, Funny)
Oh, Dizzam (Score:4, Funny)
Onion news ISN'T REAL!? This sets me back on some things I believe to be fact... oh dear...
Zombpocalypse (Score:3, Funny)
The best argument against democracy... (Score:5, Funny)
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He then later followed up with "SHABOOM!" and slapped his wife on the ass, before immediately pounding a 40.
Not just facebook - they even got Ron Paul! (Score:3, Funny)
Just that makes this pretty big news I think..
Re:Suckaz (Score:5, Interesting)
I attend political debates, couple of times a month with different audiences and I have yet to meet a single person from the left mistake Onion with real news. I have also very rarely seen people from the right make that mistake. However, people who attend these talks are most likely better educated.
Back on topic, regarding general public this was released three years ago and at the time the left didn't come out and mistake this with real news. From looking at Facebook and Twitter, it seems like a whole lot of people on the right have been duped.
Re:Suckaz (Score:5, Insightful)
-slam the right. It's practically a new passtime to slashdot.
They invite it, though, with right wing politicians calling Obama a socialist, a 'secret Muslim', not born in the U.S., talking about death panels in the healthcare bill, etc. And that's in the GOP itself, not just in the TEA Party.
Re:Suckaz (Score:4, Interesting)
Ok, for the birth-ers you're gonna have to bear with me a second. I don't buy it, nor do I think it would matter even if it was true. The claim was that he wasn't born in the US, lets say they are right, his mother was still a US citizen so he would still be able to claim us citizenship from birth anyway. They also had some argument about the type of birth documentation that was needed, and the piece they were looking for was never given. Some lesser piece was. And at this point if it became that big a deal (which apparently it did) who is to say that he couldn't forge the document? But like I said it doesn't matter he was sworn in and it wouldn't change anything. About the only thing that would happen if it was true is that it would allow Arnold a presidential bid. So, does it deserve mocking? It was important enough to be in the constitution, but they should have dropped it as soon as he was sworn in.
Did anyone actually think there would be "death panels" in the health care bill? From what I got from all the news coverage about death panels it just seemed like people were saying this bill could lead to it. They were following the slippery slope to its soylent green conclusion. I believe the actual argument for death panels went more like: The new health care bill will raise health care costs to the government, which will in turn cause the government to first cut "unnecessary" services to health care, which some group will need to decide what will be cut, which at some later time maybe 20 years from now will require cuts to elderly care, which at some point became 'death panels'; but I don't think anyone honestly thought that the bill in its current form was going to have death panels in them. If people actually believed that, then maybe they do deserve mocking; to me I thought it was just hyperbole.
As for the TEA party, the neocons in there are messing the hole thing up. The core of the tea party was fiscal responsibility. Lower taxes and reduce spending. Anything beyond that doesn't belong in the TEA party. It makes it hard for the people in the middle to associate with the TEA party when they start taking on social issues. Sarah Palin is ripe for mockery and her support of the TEA party actual keeps a lot of people from the middle and left out of the party. If you want social conservatism join the GOP, if you just want the fiscal conservatism but not the social bigotry that is where the TEA party got its initial push. It really sucks that the neocons took it over.
Anyway. I don't fit anywhere politically anymore. I grew up republican, but can't stand their imperialistic foreign policy, stance on gay and abortion rights, position on the war on drugs, etc; but I do think they understand economics better in word, but not in deed. They talk like fiscal conservatives, but they spend as much as the democrats. So where does that put someone who wants to download unlimited media at under $20 a month, drink a beer on Sunday after mowing the lawn, smoke a joint when on vacation, go to a gay friends wedding, and stop getting raped on my income taxes?
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They also had some argument about the type of birth documentation that was needed, and the piece they were looking for was never given. Some lesser piece was.
Incorrect. Each state can name their 'birth certificate' document anything they want. What was supplied was what the state of Hawaii gives out. There were also birth notices in the newspapers of the time. Completely insane to think this was ever even a possibility of being true.
The core of the tea party was fiscal responsibility.
The CLAIMS of the core
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And then there's the simple fact that taxes are lower now than they've been in 50 years. This is not only a non-issue, it's a flat-out LIE
Right, what was one of the first things that the Obama administration did? They advocated for and passed what could be considered the biggest tax cut in US history. And mere weeks after this happens these tea party clowns rise up and start ranting about Obama and taxes. If they believed a word of what they claim to believe then you really have got to wonder where they were while Bush was spending us into huge debts with needless wars and when Bush signed off on the massive bailout bill just months earlier.
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>> They invite it, though, with [left] wing politicians calling [Bush] a [chimpanzee], a 'secret [Nazi] or [fascist], not [properly elected] in the U.S. because he [bribed the Supreme Court and stole the election]. Talking about death panels in the [secret prison camps] and [Guantanamo Bay], etc. And that's in the [DNC] itself, not just in the [Green] Party.
> Fixed that for you.
> I guess you forgot about that.
> Or else you endorse it.
I don't recall Democrat politicians calling Bush a Nazi or
Re:Suckaz (Score:4, Informative)
>>>Bush got treated badly because of the way he mismanaged the office of President. Obama is being treated badly because he's part-black, because he's not a wacko
No. He's being treated badly because he's Bush Part 2. Bush increased the national debt +0.5 trillion per year, while Obama made it jump +1.5 trillion in just. The CBO projects +1 trillion every year until 2020. So Obama is increasing the debt at double the rate Bush did.
Obama's broken promises:
1 - Stop snatching people off streets. Provide a Right to fair trial. (No longer have Miranda rights even for U.S. citizens.) (Can be held indefinitely w/o trial)
2 - Right to Privacy (They now spy on us via warrantless wiretaps and track our cellphones) (Patriot Act renewed by Obama.)
3 - No interrogation. Close Guantanamo. (Revoked - now they interrogate American citizens too.)
4 - End the war. (Now it's been extended two more years.)
Obama's not being criticized because of his color, but because he lied to us. It wouldn't matter if he was as pale-white as Bill Clinton - he'd still be disliked by those of us who Fear government (and for good reason - study history).
Re:Suckaz (Score:5, Insightful)
P.S.
I'm also pissed because Obama signed the Patriot Renewal Act. What the hell??? Didn't Obama say he's repeal that piece of shit? Obama should have vetoed it as soon as it crossed his desk.
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Commentators are elected politicians now?
Hint: the right is actually (re)ELECTING people who say this stuff.
On the left, I think we only have that one crazy georgia congresswoman (cynthia mckinney), and we had the decency not to reelect her.
Re:Suckaz (Score:5, Insightful)
At some point, we can only hope, people are going to accept the most simple explanation, that Germany and Russia both wanted a chunk of Poland and that's why there was an alliance between the two, and at one point further down the road, Germany needed oil and eastern territory more than it needed Russian acquiescence, and so the alliance collapsed.
The idea that communism and fascism are some sort of ideological fusion, and that this fact has any effect on history, is hokum, and both Nazi Germany and Communist Russia were driven by their leadership's self-interest and geopolitical pressures, and that their ideology had nothing to do with it. Unfortunately we are damned to live among people who expect history to have an ideologically consistent basis, so that the "bad guys" and the "good guys" can have nice, narrative-ready reasons for losing and winning, instead of having to accept that the outcome was simply a consequence of many practical decisions made in the heat of the moment that could have just as easily gone the other way. Asking someone what their ideological attitude about private property is, or what they believe constitutes a "nation" or "people," tells you almost nothing about wether they are "good" or "Evil" or if they'll naturally agree with someone else on issues that happen to have a confluence of interest.
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>>>When the idiots don't realize the Communists fought against the Nazis.
There's no stronger fight than brother against brother. They were originally partners (prior to 1920s) and only split later on
Not true. The SA (brownshirts) in the early nazi party, being recruted mostly from the working class, where in favor of social reform but they sent out street brawlers to beat up communists and disrupt communist gatherings (in fact they were partly formed out of anti-communist militias battling communist putsch attempts.) They were also later put aside when the nazis were firmly in power. There was the infamous non-agression pact with Stalin of course but that didn't keep both countries from secretly prepar
Re:Suckaz (Score:4, Insightful)
Arguing that communists and nazis can be considered the same is the like categorizing apples and oranges are of the same family because they both grow on trees
You tea baggers are all the same. Ignorant and dumb as a bag of rocks
Re:Suckaz (Score:5, Insightful)
You are confusing apples and pears... (Score:4, Insightful)
As well as Germans, Nazis, Russians and Communists.
All four of those are VERY different things and no two of them are synonymous to each other.
Or maybe I am wrong.
Maybe in your universe Fascist is synonymous with Italian and American is synonymous with racist cowboys?
Also, as someone has pointed out below - Nazis and Fascists were ALWAYS actively against Communists.
Regardless of the Hitler-Stalin pact - which was a ruse for both sides, only it was German dictator who decided to break it first.
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Fine piece of disinformation you got there... (Score:5, Informative)
For fuck's sake, they used Communists as an excuse to form the Axis. [wikipedia.org]
Oh, and this little anecdotal piece of history [wikipedia.org] should give you a clue just HOW Nazis treated Communists.
And if you are particularly dense about believing in YOUR lies instead of proven truth... [slashdot.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps#Camps_before_the_war [wikipedia.org]
The first camp in Germany, Dachau was opened in March 1933,[5] The press statement given at the opening stated:
"On Wednesday the first concentration camp is to be opened in Dachau with an accommodation for 5000 persons.
'All Communists and--where necessary--Reichsbanner and Social Democratic functionaries who endanger state security are to be concentrated here, as in the long run it is not possible to keep individual functionaries in the state prisons without overburdening these prisons, and on the other hand these people cannot be released because attempts have shown that they persist in their efforts to agitate and organise as soon as they are released.'[5]
But yeah, sure...
Nazis were cooperating with Communists AND putting them into concentration camps at the same time.
Shit.. those must have been some awkward meetings.
Re:Suckaz (Score:4, Informative)
To be fair, online gullibility and hysteria does tend towards a right wing bent.
One [snopes.com], Two [snopes.com], Three [snopes.com], Four [snopes.com], Five [snopes.com], Six [snopes.com], just for this month alone. The left is not immune to the chain-email urban legend phenomenon (e.g. talk of the draft a few years back) but it is the right, especially the religious right, that excels at propogating misinformation.
Re:Suckaz (Score:4, Insightful)
the right, especially the religious right, that excels at propogating misinformation.
Perhaps because religion left or right excels at propagating misinformation?
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Well, then you can use an addon to block content from there, or reroute it to 127.0.0.1 or 0.0.0.0 via /etc/hosts or c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
Re:Suckaz (Score:4, Funny)
The difference, of course, is that your right wing friends won't believe you.
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That is a false equivalency, very few in the left wing believe 9/11 was an inside job, and they are roundly denounced by the rest of us. The right wing, however, holds some very crazy beliefs very strongly.
# 39 percent of Republicans believe Obama should be impeached, 29 percent are not sure, 32 percent said he should not be voted out of office.
# 36 percent of Republicans believe Obama was not born in the United States, 22 percent are not sure, 42 percent think he is a natural citizen.
# 31 percent of Republ
Re:Suckaz (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Suckaz (Score:5, Informative)
Really? This poll was all over the news two months ago, everyone was commenting on it. Google 'poll of right wing beliefs' if you need a citation, this isn't wikipedia and I'm not your research assistant.
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And as pointed out below the 'polling' company who put forward those results has been caught cooking the books. They were so bad even most liberal sites have been trying to disassociate themselves from their findings.
Using Reasearch2000 as an accurate polling source is akin to using Tiger Woods as a source for marriage advice.
Re:Suckaz (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, that just made you look really bad. Learn to find good information.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJd_vm9VhpU [youtube.com]
was my favorite interview - congrats to the camera man for that shot setup..
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I'm sorry, but 'knew about 9/11 in advance' is not '9/11 was an inside job.' Thirty five percent is a minority, and 'not sure' means 'not sure,' so I'm in the majority.
Please report to remedial English, and after that, remedial math, m'kay?
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There's lies, damned lies, and statistics.
In this pool the question is somewhat unclear.
The question could go either: Did Bush have the intelligence warning that there is going to be an imminent attack on US but didn't do anything about it? (my answer is Yes, just google 'Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US') OR Did US government orchestrated the destruction of WTC? (Then my answer is a definite no.)
Anyway I don't think that the belief that US government might be behind 9/11, given that how the administrat
Re:Suckaz (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't think it actually shows Americans are crazy, I think it reflects the deep-set distrust Americans have of their government. And this is something that extends from the left to the right. And it's probably a good thing.
Re:Suckaz (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't think it actually shows Americans are crazy, I think it reflects the deep-set distrust Americans have of their government. And this is something that extends from the left to the right. And it's probably a good thing.
It would be a good thing if it was a distrust of government in general. But as it is, it's the distrust of the government so long as your party is not in charge.
Re:Suckaz (Score:4, Insightful)
No, those aren't Democrats, they usually register Green or Indie, if they
register at all.
Both major parties are considered mainstream, and so they must be part of
the the big conspiracy. Voting for any candidate that actually has a chance
of winning seems to be an anathema to them. Some actually outright call
voting an act of endorsing "the system" as if there is some all powerful
international karma genie keeping track and ready to kick out the government
if voter enrollment fell too far.
(Not that I don't like the Green party on principle, they have a better platform
than the Dems, but it seems to have the liability of being a magnet for
despondent borderline nutjobs, and in certain states, a takeover target for
wannabe communists. Which is a drag on the other states where the adults
are in charge of it.)
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Whoa! You're friends with Bush?
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I believe this [slashdot.org] was the article you refer to.
But the Onion IS real... (Score:5, Funny)
After all, in 2001, they had Bush's inaugural address as "Our Long National Nightmare of Peace and Prosperity is Over" [theonion.com]...
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Re:But the Onion IS real... (Score:5, Funny)
The only bright side to all this is that Irish babies are, in fact, delicious.
Re:But the Onion IS real... (Score:5, Funny)
The only bright side to all this is that Irish babies are, in fact, delicious.
Well, that certainly gives a whole new spin to "Swiftboating."
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Meh, the death of satire was predicted back when they gave Henry Kissinger the Nobel Peace Prize.