Resort Attracts Men With Virtual Girlfriends 226
disco_tracy writes "Long a favorite of lovers and honeymooners, a Japanese beach town with fading sparkle has found a new tourism niche in the wired age. A resort based on a game called 'Love Plus,' encourages players to develop long-term relationships with virtual women. From the article: 'Local souvenir shops in the resort town have caught on and capitalized on the love-struck new clientele, selling Love Plus-themed souvenirs, from good-luck charms to steamed buns and fish sausages. The local Ohnoya hotel even offers traditional rooms to the unusual couples, which feature two sets of futon beds and another barcode panel that allows the men to visualize their girlfriends in a flattering summer kimono.'"
Define 'real girl' (Score:4, Funny)
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Oh no, they never saw the film! (Score:5, Funny)
Oh no, they must have never seen the film:
DON'T DATE ROBOTS!
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Vote "NO!" on prop infinity.
Re:Oh no, they never saw the film! (Score:4, Funny)
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares?"
I'm a little scared to ask, but I have to. Is 'intensive purposes' part of the joke?
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At least in DollHouse you get a REAL Ve-j-j
Real...or virtual (Score:2)
I love you PHILIP J FRY. (Score:5, Funny)
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Did I just read an article that had the terms "virtual women", "steamed buns", and "fish sausages" in the same paragraph?
Re:I love you PHILIP J FRY. (Score:5, Funny)
Did I just read an article that had the terms "virtual women", "steamed buns", and "fish sausages" in the same paragraph?
This is Slashdot, so the answer is probably no. :p
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"Say honey, I'm famished; would you buy me some STEAMED BUNS AND FISH SAUSAGES please?"
Japan's primary export (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Japan's primary export (Score:5, Funny)
Speaking as someone from a land that has a surplus of FFS and a deficit of WTF, I can say in no uncertain terms, thank you Japan for your wonderful, ludicrous exports.
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yeah, you know it's japan when " selling Love Plus-themed souvenirs, from good-luck charms to steamed buns and fish sausages" is the sanest part of the story.
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I'm not sure I have ever head of a fish sausage before, but the very idea of it makes me feel ill...
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Could you even know there were no fish byproducts in any of the typical modern sausages you have eaten?
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Yea. For one, I actually look at the ingredients. While Mechanically Separated Pork & Chicken isn't terribly specific, it does at least exclude fish. ... humour aside, trace amounts, no. But generally the way sausage is both made and kept, any significant amount of fish would taste, er, rather fishy. Think sardines.
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They live in a boring, conformist hive culture so when they blow off steam, they REALLY need to blow off steam. An accepted social outlet is a non-disruptive way to do that.
The old way to vent was upon the neighbors, and we've seen (Nanjing) what that leads to. Better they watch that stuff as a cartoon, fap, and go about their day. Every culture does this to some extent, but the Nips are less prudish than USians.
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This isn't about blowing off steam; it's about filling the void for men who don't have a woman for whatever reason, be it gender disparity, social ineptitude, a schedule that doesn't permit a normal social life, or a distaste for relationships.
The "old way" to cope was to get a hooker, but apparently Japan's become too prudish for that.
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Ewww! Hookers are real women and therefore, scary!
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Who doesn't live in one roughly like that? (I'm not asking for "but mine is obviously special!")
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Who mods this crap up? Japan's colonization of neighbouring countries and wars of aggression were not about venting - what they were about is far too long to get into in a slashdot post. Japanese culture is no more boring or hive-like than American culture.
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...wrapped in a Hello Kitty tortilla.
I wonder... (Score:2)
"steamed buns and fish sausages" (Score:3, Funny)
ROR
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Wait... (Score:2)
Love Plus [something =] fish sausages
Where have I seen this equation before? Oh yeah, in my pants! I love you, Japan! Keep up the weird work!
Just a guess... (Score:2)
...but I have to believe the rooms come with a large, king-size box of tissues in every room.
Virtual babies? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Low birth rate, high bit rate.
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I killed three of them in the 80s when I neglected my Tamagotchi.
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Eh? (Score:5, Funny)
What's the matter, Japanese men? Japanese women not good enough for you? They are widely held by many cultures as the best women in the world. It reminds me of that ancient joke that goes:
Heaven is:
an American salary,
a Chinese Cook,
a British Home,
and a Japanese Wife.
Hell is:
a Chinese salary,
a British Cook,
a Japanese House,
and an American Wife.
Re:Eh? (Score:4, Funny)
Originally it was this one:
Heaven is a place where the police are English; the chefs are Italian; the car mechanics are German; the lovers are French and it's all organized by the Swiss.
Hell is a place where the police are German; the chefs are English; the car mechanics are French; the lovers are Swiss and it's all organized by the Italians.
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I've heard this variation:
Canada should have been the perfect blend of French cuisine, British culture, and American industry. But what they got instead was British cuisine, American culture and French industry.
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That's just the problem. A Japanese wife is too good for the target audience of this game. Just like us, Japan has no shortage of pudgy, sweaty, repugnant turbo nerds who repel any decent girl with their offensive BO and even more offensive sexual proclivities. Hence the need for a virtual girlfriend, a computer entity which always reacts in the same sweet way and doesn't care what kind of pig you are.
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They're willing to share too... (Score:2)
Every disease they've ever encountered, every sore, cut, bruise, concussion and contusion is there for the same low asking price.
YUCK! (As apposed to Yuki. ;-)
Culture shift in Japan (Score:5, Interesting)
Japan is undergoing a huge cultural shift. In the past corporate loyalty was a big concept in Japan; workers expected to work long hours for their entire lives for a single employer, and in return they would get paid well and never get laid off. The economic problems of Japan have led to this culture going away. For most older workers it is still in place (although some have been laid off), but for most young people the situation is pretty awful. There is huge unemployment among young people, and the jobs available are mostly contract positions that don't pay well and may end with little notice. A particularly harsh problem for a country that puts a large emphasis on employment as a basis for personal success and has relied on the corporate benevolance that was present in the past instead of creating extensive social safety net programs.
This has led to poverty and disillusionment, with many younger people reacting by withdrawing from society to various degrees. This is presumably why Japan has some of the lowest numbers in the world for children born per capita and frequency of sexual contact. The virtual girlfriend is an attempt to capitalize on those withdrawn young men who are still active in society but do not have the interest or self-confidence necessary to pursue a human female. It isn't so much a rejection of Japanese women as a reaction of despair to a society that treats them as if they have no value. It's a cautionary note for the United States too. The fact that the corporate loyalty culture here is much weaker probably means that the impact won't be as bad, but the potential for a generation that is poorer, less motivated, and less active socially is definitely present.
BTW, make sure your Chinese cook is a gourmet--a great Chinese cook can make lots of great food, but an ok Chinese cook makes food that is very greasy and salty, which tastes great once in a while but is monotonous (not to mention very unhealthy) if eaten regularly. Contrast that to an ok French or Italian cook, who makes food that isn't inspired but is still good to eat any or every day.
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Greasy and salty is some sort of bizarre regional variation.
Yeah... American Chinese.
Of course, that’s no different from American Mexican (greasy and salty), American Italian (greasy and salty), ... I think “gourmet” in his post could pretty easily be replaced with “authentic” without changing the meaning of his statement.
Nobody should ask ... (Score:2)
why I don't go to restaurants anymore.
The choice is extremely expensive or FDA approved. (Greasy, salty preservative laden crap filled with unpronounceable components [I don't dare call them ingredients.])
I'll stick to my organic veggies.
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Hmmm. I think there's some truth here. What's Gordon Ramsay's nationality? And what's the name of his show?
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Heaven is: an American salary, a Chinese Cook, a British Home, and a Japanese Wife.
...and a virtual girlfriend.
"Best women in the world" (Score:2)
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You can leave now
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I'm a feminist and most of my friends are guys. I'm also married and am the primary breadwinner in our household.
I don't want my husband to be m doormat anymore than I believe that I should be his. It's a partnership.
The impression I get from your posting is that you don't believe men and women can have a relationship on an equal footing. I am sad for you and your narrow world view.
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I'm not sure I like the idea of a British home, when you put the sewage pipes on the outside of your house so "it'll be easier to fix them when they freeze" in a country where the temperature rarely drops below 0C you should be able to spot your error (putting them inside the house and deep enough in the ground means they won't freeze even if the temperature stays at -25C for a month or two, so no need to have them easily accessible "just in case").
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Re: American wives
American wives are awesome. Kinky, daring, willing to be a sugar mamma.
You just got to watch out for their husbands.
I kid.. I kid.
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Chinese cook being heaven?
I believe you've never had Dim Sum. That's the last level of hell. About the same as Fear Factor.
The worst dim sum I ever had was a whole octopus coated in hot sauce; it had the texture an eraser and burned like fire. The worst episode of Fear Factor I ever watched involved a pizza with a bile-based crust, coagulated cow blood for sauce, stinky cheese, fish eyes, and live worms.
I'll stick with the dim sum, thanks.
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Re:Eh? (Score:5, Insightful)
Ironic then that the name means something to the effect of "pointing to your heart's desire". Having eaten a fair amount of Dim Sum, I somehow think that it got that name for a reason.
Feel free to leave all of the worthwhile food in the world to people with taste buds, though. We'll leave you all the Whoppers you can eat.
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I think that's just the general thing with the "wife" cidea; doesn't tell about the quaility of specimens, which was on the table here.
How. Fucking. Sad (Score:2)
Creepy much? (Score:3, Insightful)
Cause that's not creepy at all...
No. /. poster
Though I would expect it to appeal to the average
I read the headline as ... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I read the headline as ... (Score:4, Funny)
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I read it as, "Robots attack men with virtual girlfriends."
I thought, jealous robots?!
More of same on the way (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm just guessing, here, no research done (hey, a /. tradition) but I suspect that if your culture continues to have a deeply-embedded prejudice for treating women like crap, and wives in particular as servants for yourself and her mother-in-law, it could be tough finding a wife.
This problem exists to varying degrees in Asia, and is already being hugely exacerbated by a plummeting female/male ratio in some countries due to selective abortion and even (quiet) infanticide.
A whole generation of men the size of the whole US population won't be able to find women in the coming generation.
And if you aren't sympathetic, maybe you will be later. Because that's also the generation that's going to enjoy a whole new level of industrialized prosperity - enough to basically come bidding for women from other countries.
Women from America's growing underclass, as rich and poor grow further apart might find a nice condo in Bangalore and a (pathetically) grateful south Asian hubby more attractive than a trailer park...
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American women? Women from the hive mind of christian feminism traipsing off to live in a culture where women are treated as possessions?
More likely Chinese, which are right next door, will end up fitting this bill.
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While your post is an informative academic breakdown of contemporary feminism in America, he was making a more generalized statement on the mindset of the average American female, which lately seems to be "I'm a feminist because I like abortion," and "I'm a Christian because I went to church with my family last Easter," but boils down to, "I get my way or you pay, but you're the guy so you pay anyway!" and pointing out how poorly this mindset would mesh with most Asian cultures.
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I know that Japan is practically the only south-east Asian nation that *doesn't* have the selective abortion issue. If they all have it, there won't be any place in SE Asia with an excess of women dropping from the trees.
Granted, the "Asia Needs Women" (so much for Mars) scenario does involve a dramatic attitude change on the part of the husbands.
A dramatic attitude change in Japan might work wonders, as their ratio is still about even, but it won't help in China which now has a 1.19 male/female at birth
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There are a bunch of southeast Asian countries that don't have it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sex_ratio_below_15_per_country_smooth.png [wikipedia.org]
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Apparently he doesn't.
Wired age or Weird age? (Score:2)
Does this mean... (Score:2)
I'm guessing (Score:2)
Love Plus Resort (Score:5, Funny)
Judgind by the picture, the resort is located in the picturesque Uncanny Valley.
Business idea...it's mine, I patent it (Score:2)
This should be used for actual dating (Score:2)
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Re:Oh, Japanese beach town. (Score:5, Interesting)
I know you're joking...BUT, I wonder, would real women (GF or spousal unit) really be mad if you had a robotic GF if technology got good enough for you to really want one?
I mean...just using it for physical pleasure...since it isn't a real human, would it be cheating? I'd think it would be MUCH less so, than Clinton's definition of sex...?
What about a step further, if VR got good enough to where you just plugged in? Would that be in any form cheating or just REALLY REALLY good porn?
Then again..I could see a future...where if the VR stuff was THAT good, would men start shying away from real women and reality? I mean, you get a VR chick that never ages, never says no, always looks JUST like you want her....and never complains or nags you. Who'd want the real thing after that (unless you wanted to reproduce).
Just some random ideas...
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Re:Oh, Japanese beach town. (Score:5, Informative)
If I had to hazard a guess, I'd assume that those that get upset about porn would get extremely upset about the robot sex slave, those that write porn off as "boys will be boys" might get a bit uncomfortable about the robot (there's a fine line between "porn's on the TV" and "my guy is with a robotic sex toy") but may or may not keep their discomfort to themselves, and those that watch and enjoy the porn will be arranging robotic threesomes, assuming they don't already have matching male sex robots to play with.
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Sounds perfect, doesn't it? "The last invention of man was the Holodeck."
Problem is, perfect gets boring. The inconvenient truth about all those little relationship annoyances is that they challenge you to grow in ways you'd never think to explore otherwise.
Re:Oh, Japanese beach town. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Oh, Japanese beach town. (Score:4, Funny)
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I've yet to meet a woman out there in the real world....that doesn't yet know what a vibrator is, and generally most own more than ONE of them.
I've learned some good tricks and skills over the years, but NO MAN can make his dick do what some of these things do, and if they can, well, they need to be making money hand over fist (no pun intended) in films and off rich lady clients.
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Re:What some of these things do. (Score:2)
I've learned some good tricks and skills over the years, but NO MAN can make his dick do what some of these things do...
Let me help you with that.(not safe for work)
http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.1106 [dealextreme.com]
Need I say more?
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I've yet to meet a woman out there in the real world...
Well that explains a lot. ;-)
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In theory, the modern idea behind gaining a life partner (wife/husband/de facto/same-sex partner) is to find someone you enjoy spending time with, sharing the better and worse, growing old with and on a mutually agreeable schedule bumping uglies.
Contrary to popular misconception - it is normal for women to have a sex drive and actually want to have sex with their partner. While it is possible that the frequency may not match exactly (it's not unheard of for females to want more sex than their male partner)
Re:Oh, Japanese beach town. (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Why live? (Score:5, Funny)
...then you should just kill yourself.
After the steamed buns and fish sausages, of course.
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Isn't prostitution legal, or at least tolerated there? Why hasn't the free market solved this problem yet?
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Why is this sad? Seriously asking here, not trying to be a prick.
For some people, being accepted by other people is the most important pursuit, their reason for existence. If those people are sufficiently ostracized they lose their sense of purpose and feel as though they're not in control of their lives. A person who will accept them no matter what is simply too hard to pass up. This is also why some people join gangs or become suicide bombers, they believe it restores meaning to their existence.
It's sad in two ways: that a person is so desperate for affection that t
Re:I may have to try this. (Score:4, Insightful)
Your resignation makes me sad, because courtship ultimately boils down to a game many nerds are more suited to than they realize.
Granted, it's a grind, but the loot... or dare I say booty beats anything virtual.
The hardest part is getting over yourself. "But who could possibly want me?" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think that might actually be the whole nerd social issue... we get too "meta" with social interaction over shit that just doesn't occur to most people.
Hmm. I'm gonna go write an entirely unsubstantiated self-help book.
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this is quite true - forget yourself, go talk to anyone you find interesting about what you feel like - make off color jokes, push boundaries and find out that the cute girl in front of you has a mind like a sewer AND IT'S WONDERFUL!
Screw up and maybe you change your approach, but just don't be fake and you'll, errm, level up.
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I've got a friend and he's a robot man
I've got a friend, he's a computer man