Happy System Administrator Appreciation Day 220
alphadogg writes "It's the last Friday in July. Have you hugged your system administrators today? Bought a cake? Picked up the tab for lunch? There's still time to show your thanks for the unsung heroes who keep corporate desktops, servers and networks running. Today is System Administrator Appreciation Day, an annual event thought up by IT pro Ted Kekatos. A company picnic and an old HP advertisement sparked the idea for the first SysAdmin Day, now in its 12th year."
Happy System Administrator Day (Score:3)
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Thanks, I've deleted your e-mail invitation to the picnic. And your home drive. And the backups. Still working on your Google accounts.
Ah ha! Proof you're not the admin he's talking about. Had you been the administrator, you wouldn't know how to do those things. Perhaps you have a paranoid chip on your shoulder and should be fired too.
Your Incompetent SysAdmin
"Your paranoid, delusional, malicious, SysAdmin who wasn't being discussed."
There, fixed that for you.
Re:Happy System Administrator Day (Score:5, Informative)
I was fucking in last night at 00:15 when we lost power. And I was here until 03:30 when power had been back on for an hour and I brought the servers up in their proper order. I then slept in a hotel room on my own dime, because I was back in at 07:20 today.
I'll work until 17:30 today. We've had so many storms in the area that I have gotten 7 hours or less sleep every night for the past two weeks. This means I give up my hobbies on the weekend, as I am too fucking tired to compete safely.
But does anyone give a rats ass about this? No. They are pissed off that I missed the first 20 minutes of a company wide meeting because I was monitoring circuits that had wet Smartjacks in order to make sure that the branches stay up.
Fuck system admin day. I'm going back to school.
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Why don't you leave that shit hole and work some place that has UPS and generators, and doesn't have a leaking roof?
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Might I suggest nursing school? The hours are often weird, but that's not always bad (e.g. three 12-hour days on, four days off). And demand will only go up, no matter how fixed-up or fucked-up the health care system gets. Not a great choice if you can't handle body fluids or you got into tech because you hate dealing with people, but for some people it's the perfect career if they need to get out of one they hate.
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why would he want a cut in pay and worse hours?
Plus, who wants a nurse as whiny as he is?
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I agree. Money can be used to purchase goods and services, from the likes of...say...a few talented, well-endowed ladies at your local gentlemen's club.
Two hours in the back-room with a few girls that don't know how to use a mouse and couldn't eject a DVD out of a drive without a remote can be quite relaxing.
Yeah baby!! Pull my token rings when you resync that array!! Just like that! DO IT!
Re:Happy System Administrator Day (Score:5, Interesting)
Money IS happiness. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to either get money from you, or trying to feel good about their current financial predicament.
It sin't the only thing that bring happiness, but to say it doesn't is pretty delusional.
If he is unhappy about his hours why would he be happy working the hours elsewhere?
"Seriously: a licensed nurse who knows technology will stand out in the applicant pool, because hospitals need them desperately with the move to Electronic Medical Records."
I know. I know several IT people who went into nursing, and I was in IT in the medical industry. Nursing in no way solves what THIS poster is talking about.
I will point out, that it may be a mistake for have IT experienced nurses stand out in the application pool. From what I here they end up getting pulled into all kinds of computer issues instead of doing nursing because calling IT is a pain in the ass. Hire nurse to nurse, hire IT guys to deliver high quality IT services for the nurse.
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yeah, but in the next 20 years demand is going to sky rocket because of the boomers. After which it will collapse, just like every industry that did after boomers past there prime buying age.
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Actually, look at the boomer generation and what age they are going into. THAT is why there will be more demand.
However, if you don't want grueling, high pressure, exhausting job, then don't go into nursing.
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All your doing is making it worse for you and your co-workers. My servers go down at 1 am and i'm not working on them thus its not my fault? I wake up shower, shave, and then come in to work, bring up the servers and boom, god status. I'm not going to ever do work for people I don't care about if they won't appreciate it. The best way I can put it is a job's a job, not your life, if it's your life, you better be rich. If they fire you for not working at 1 am in the morning, you really don't want to work
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Sadly, you can only do the 8-5 shift and deal with it situation on corporate entities that don't require 24/7 uptime.
And you can only play this type of hard-ball if your direct IT management are in your corner.
Where I work, that's not the case. Their mantra is 'We do it because we're the ones who care the most'. My thoughts is I really don't give a rats ass when someone else should be responsible for it, and we're being turned into martyrs, but no one listens to me.
Ownership on this company. The last per
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wrong. You absolutely can do the 8 hour shift thing in a 24/7 environment.
And you play that kind of hardball. Maybe you win, maybe not. Not trying doesn't fix the problem for you.
I WANT to own SAP. After a year I could write my own ticket at any other company.
The problem is you do not know how to properly convey the problem, and you don't know how to properly maneuver to get more staff.
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Tibco
I thought that shit went out with the dinosaurs.
Let me guess what's not your new career choice (Score:2)
Counselor for people with Tourette syndrome.
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Do you realize that the concept of "swear" words is completely ridiculous, arbitrary, and vary greatly from culture to culture?
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Do you realize that the concept of "swear" words is completely ridiculous, arbitrary, and vary greatly from culture to culture?
Who gives a flying cholaflazwhyng about that? Plymble off and get back to work - juznuxer!
The fact that parent was downmodded implies that swear words are from context, not the mere words themselves. Bravo, Anonymous Coward.
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Do you know how to interact with people without lecturing them?
In this context, some coarse language is socially appropriate.
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Why the fuck would I want to?
Re:Do you know (Score:4, Informative)
Do you know how to speak without swearing?
Have you *met* a SysAdmin?
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For system administrators, everday is monday.
That should be on a T-Shirt or poster or something. :)
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My mother told me that good servers don't go down.
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Some manager decides he's going to buy this awesome new application that's designed to do 123 running on XYZ. He then decides that since he wants the application only for this one little function he wont need all the suggested hardware. After it's deployed (in about 1/5th the time a rational human being would ask that it be deployed in) that manager decides that function #2 could be quite beneficial and asks you to turn that on too. Then he says that function #3 is really close to another applicatio
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Moral of the story? Someone has to put his foot down and demand certain level of cable management and documentation. Without them you are lost
About the budgets, people forget (Score:2)
The DoD has a $19 billion space budget too.
This includes the GPS system, weather satellites and communications.
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What is included in your "war budget"? It gets really frustrating to look at those numbers because all too often insanely dumb things get lumped together which actually are not related to the war budget at all. For example, all too often people lump in costs which would exist regardless of the current war operations. Sometimes their cited numbers are off by 50%. So are your numbers accurate or just once sided political lies?
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Overview/ [whitehouse.gov]
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget [whitehouse.gov]
http://budget.house.gov/fy2012budget/ [house.gov]
http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/budget12/index.html [ed.gov]
http://www.whitehouse.gov/files/documents/budget_2012.pdf [whitehouse.gov]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_federal_budget [wikipedia.org]
If you find any one si
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Please don't misunderstand, I'm not accusing. I would have taken your word at face value had you said you made a good faith effort to calculate the numbers, as opposed to simply parroting someone's propaganda.
Honestly I wasn't expecting references. Kudos for providing them.
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Cheers
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is pretty accusative
That's hyper sensitive. It was a direct question, nothing more, nothing less. And given the political and media landscape and the hyper-biased user base here, its an extremely reasonable question.
and looking to start a partisan fight.
Considering I never sided, that's not true. Hell, my follow up even stated my leaning was to take your reply at face value without any references. I mean come on... You're a little too sensitive, IMOHO.
Insulting you was not my intent. But honestly, if your feel slighted from someone asking and direct question about
Are they worthy? (Score:2, Insightful)
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You would just be paying people more to come to work to listen to "more competent people" tell you to just shut up and do what they are asking you to do while explaining why it has to be done that way, but :
- dont understand you are doing exactly what your boss (and theirs) tells you that you're required to do by company policy.
- have no clue that their code sucks ass and has massive resource leaks that caused the problem in the first place (not POS servers with shitty ad
Re:Are they worthy? Well said (Score:2)
clap/clap/clap....{ bows down respectfully to the master....}
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Allow me to reciprocate.
The lead developer comes to me to tell me that I must go to my management and procure funding for network upgrades because it's all fucked up, and while I'm at it I should ask if there is any training I might benefit from. I say, "No, we need you to justify the amount of data coming from your application. Do you see this list of IPs? Those are your serv
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I'm sure my developers say the same thing about me. I mean, their Silverlight app works fine when they run it on their test server on the same subnet as them. But somehow, when I forward to it with our load balancers, it breaks. Apparently, my load-balancers are crap, and i should just put their IIS machine right in the DMZ.. They have decided that I don't know what I'm talking about, and their app searching for http://hostname/ [hostname] is going to magically resolve on the internet, since it works in their offi
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On your *own* computer, you should have rights if you can handle them. On shared environments like integration, QA, staging and, of course, production, there needs to be control.
And no, being a developer does not automatically make you a systems expert.
Hmmm (Score:5, Funny)
My wife always comes to me when the computers act up. I think I can leverage this into a blowjob.
Re:Hmmm (Score:5, Funny)
Well, I gave my sysadmin a hand job for doing well.
You know, there are times I hate being my own IT guy.
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Happy System Admin day! Every day!
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As long as you don't have a floppy disk ;)
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You said "wife"? Odds are not in your favor.
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Also National Chicken Wing Day in the US (Score:2)
Thanks! (Score:2)
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Its OK. Most sysadmins deserve to celebrate both of those holidays.
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Hugging a sysadmin? (Score:2)
No, I haven't hugged my sysadmin, and I probably won't do so - something about not wanting to get multicolored greasy stains on my shirt.
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I would like to hug my sys admins neck with my hands.
Better include a nice card (Score:2)
SA is the BOFH (Score:3)
I think my SA is the BOFH [wikipedia.org]... a hug may get me killed... or committed. I'll stick to the Code Hack zone, where it is safe I think.
Does this mean (Score:3)
I'll get fair pay,
and an 8 hour day?
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Find a job that treat their employees better. Or get a labor lawyer t give you an opinion of what salary means in your state. Tenh sue for back OT, and settle for company policy that sys admins get OT. Suddenly all those little daily emergencys aren't as important.
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Unlikely at your current job. I suggest looking for employment elsewhere. There are companies that are willing to pay the right amount given you have the necessary skills and experience. It took me a little over half a year to find a company. I was seriously considering taking a job that was strictly for VMWare or Exchange, but this one came and will leverage my existing repertoire along with managing new technology.
The thing that drives me crazy is a SysAdmin is expected to be an expert at everything under
Just give me a bonus (Score:2)
A small bonus can't help to show some appreciation.
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Thanks! (Score:2)
Everyday is SysAdmin day (Score:2)
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Install some Wow hacks on their machine, then report then to blizzard.
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If you can hack into his machine and install random shit, he wouldn't be a sysadmin in the first place.
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Wow I don't know what country you are in, that has sysadmin playing WoW. Here in the U.S. we have to sit in a 90 degree server room because the company have no $ to fix the A/C, and we are forced to use our student loan money to play in the Wall Street Casino in normal business hours because otherwise we have no $ to pay for basic food such as ramen.
Nick Burns Proclaimed (Score:2)
***Blow Me A Rasberry*** (Score:2)
Another 'special' day, oh joy. I like how every day is special anymore. Mom assures me I'm special, too
Tomorrow is 'Cat Walkers' Day! Grab a leash it's gonna be special!
Artificial appreciation days (Score:3, Insightful)
If sysadmins were more consistently good, we wouldn't need to manufacture a day to "appreciate" them. One of the reasons sysadmins are under appreciated is because a non-trivial percentage of them aren't worth spit. Sure, I've worked with some incredible admins and appreciated every second of their time. But I've worked with some pretty clueless idiots who had no business whatsoever coming anywhere near a computer. Nobody remembers the good admins because everything just works and no one needs to call them. Unfortunately, that means that the only admins you really do remember are the ones who couldn't figure out how to pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel. And that is what is really not fair for the good admins and why they are under appreciated.
So, for all the good admins out there, kudos to you. You should be appreciated on more than just one day arbitrarily chosen out of the year. For the rest, well, mother always said if you didn't have anything nice to say don't say anything. I don't have anything to say to you.
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And once again... (Score:2)
not a single fuck about us was given that day. But god forbid you forget "Secretary Appreciation Week" or whatever it is. :/
Back to the basement, cube trolls!
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Did you tell anyone? Did you get it on the company calendar? No? well then how the fuck will anyone know?
Good administrators (Score:2)
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Management won't appreciate anything unless it is properly spelled out i a report, along with costs and saving.
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I'll show him appreciation when (Score:2)
He stops laughing and just tells me where the "any" key is.
Yeah for Sysadmins (Score:5, Funny)
Put In My Resignation (Score:2)
I am celebrating today because I put in my notice. Current Chief Idiot Officer doesn't understand WTF I do, doesn't care to try and understand, and is quite content with paying peanuts for it.. So I found some place that's actually willing to pay a decent rate. I'm essentially getting a 65% raise. Bummer is I'm going to have to wait a month to start seeing that extra money.
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Like a solider, you are appreciated once you are no longer around to do the job. It sucks, but that's often the only way any of us gets appreciated.
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Maybe the sysadmins at Hallmark could help us out on this one.
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Don't put up the posters unless you've got the guts to call them cretins to their faces. And don't be surprised at the reaction you get.
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...they are worthless dolts that take 6 fucking weeks to run 1 god damned phone line and then they just twist two wires together covered with masking tape keeping me out of a real position
Ex sys admin. here.
I got out of the field because of this attitude. You might want to look at the bigger picture. Maybe you'd realize that sys admins rarely dictate the schedule of anything. When I was a sys admin,, the obscene amount of paperwork that traveled from department to department requiring signatures from everybody was usually the reason for holdups. Oh, and meeting upon meeting to discuss it all, too.
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attitudes like mine? sorry if MY JOB depends on my phone working and the "IT" guy is too busy avoiding it cause he doesn't want to string a wire through a pipe
I only got my phone line cause I bitched to the CEO which in return the "IT" guy dumped a box of cable on my desk and told me to call him when it was done (with no working phone) it took less than an hour and then another 3 days for him to punch it in the wall right where the old line was.
you can blame meetings and paperwork all you want and that MAY
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attitudes like mine? sorry if MY JOB depends ...
I only got my phone line cause I bitched to the CEO ...
you can blame meetings and paperwork all you want and that MAY be true, in my experience its a shallow excuse for laziness apathy and ignorance (well we had a meeting to discuss how to solve your problem cause fuck if we know, we hired someone like you to install the phones in the first place, but we did decide we dont care that much and we will get to it sometime just muddle by)
Ah. The picture is a lot clearer. Nobody wants to deal with you personally. Can't say I blame them.
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HA there we go, there is a classic IT attitude, yes sir YOU ARE ALWAYS RIGHT and there is never any point in trying to hold a discussion with you cause your fucking Jesus Christ the IT Admin!
Thank you for backing me up
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HA there we go, there is a classic IT attitude, yes sir YOU ARE ALWAYS RIGHT and there is never any point in trying to hold a discussion with you cause your fucking Jesus Christ the IT Admin!
Thank you for backing me up
Actually, no. In my original reply, I gave a couple different reasons why there would be a huge delay. You at least acknowledged they could have been reasons, but then proceeded to say it was because of laziness, apathy and ignorance because it fit better with your somewhat offensive rant.
Not trying to be "ALWAYS RIGHT", just looking at your wording and attitude. That's why I say nobody wants to deal with you personally.
I haven't been a sys admin for quite a few years now, BTW :-)
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yea yea blah blah blah never your fault, quick with the excuses and the old its not my problem, and no one wants to deal with you cause how dare you suggest someone get off their worthless ass for a couple hours and run a phone line
listen chief, we all have mountains of paper work and pointless meetings to attend, why is it the IT crew gets to use that as an excuse to not do their job but yet it does not work with any other department? Its cause the IT guys are usually useless ass hats with excuses and atti
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The impact of the way you treat your sys admin is much like the impact of the way your
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im so sorry one guy cant keep less than 2 dozen computer working at a full time job, goes back to lazy apathetic and attitude
cry me a river a sysadmin has to do something during his busy days
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or he could be playing angry birds on his mac laptop all day as I was not the only one, here is is 6 months later and my phone is the only one working in the second building, we have no fax and our T1 is still dead running a cooperation on a 768k dsl line cause of 1 rain storm and his shitty wiring
after I pulled my own fucking phone line and punched it in myself I was rewarded with a write up from him and backed by management
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Have a day of YouTube, on us! Make sure to send funny links you find out to everybody!
Sincerly,
Management.
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