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Right-Wing German Extremists Tricked By Trojan Shirts 457

Posted by samzenpus
from the rinse-relax-repeat dept.
gzipped_tar writes "Fans at a recent right-wing extremist rock festival in Germany thought they were getting free T-shirts that reflected their nationalistic worldview. But after the garment's first wash they discovered otherwise. The original image rinsed away to reveal a hidden message from an activist group. It reads: 'If your T-shirt can do it, so can you. We'll help to free you from right-wing extremism.'"
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Right-Wing German Extremists Tricked By Trojan Shirts

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    This [youtube.com] isn't going to work.

  • Genius. (Score:4, Funny)

    by mirix (1649853) on Thursday August 11, 2011 @12:13AM (#37052582)

    Too bad they didn't have cameras to record the nazi-rage reaction face.

    Actually, since they're probably children, it would end up being their mom's reaction face when she is doing the laundry. Ah well.

    • Re:Genius. (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Q-Hack! (37846) * on Thursday August 11, 2011 @12:41AM (#37052694)

      Too bad they didn't have cameras to record the nazi-rage reaction face.

      Actually, since they're probably children, it would end up being their mom's reaction face when she is doing the laundry. Ah well.

      While this is probably the most probable scenario, It does give the parents an eye on what their kids are doing and will thus cause them to consider intervening in their development. If it causes at least one parent to positively change a kids direction in life, then it was well worth the money spent.

      • Re:Genius. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by martin-boundary (547041) on Thursday August 11, 2011 @01:11AM (#37052806)
        Let me get this straight: you're arguing that when a mom washes her kid's T-shirts that happen to have extremist slogans on them, she's totally oblivious. But if she washes one T-shirt that has the message "We'll help to free you from right-wing extremism.", then suddenly she's going to wonder what her kid is up to these days?

        Have you thought any of this through?

        • by Pieroxy (222434)

          Have you thought any of this through?

          First posts rarely think their post through.

        • Re:Genius. (Score:4, Interesting)

          by ArsenneLupin (766289) on Thursday August 11, 2011 @07:17AM (#37054478)

          The original T-Shirt had "Hardcore Rebellen, National und Frei" on it. Unless you already know who "Hardcore Rebellen" is, it's hard to figure out that this is a right-wing extremist group.

          Well, maybe the word "National" may tip somebody off, but so many other things which have nothing to do with right-wing extremism have "national" in their name too, so you really have to already be looking for tell-tale signs to spot this. And the "tough" logo with skull and flags would look like generic rocker/biker wear to the uninitiated.

          However, after the wash, the "We'll help to free you from right-wing extremism." is pretty obvious...

      • by Joce640k (829181)

        Why would a hardcore extremist be living with mommy?

        Are hardcore extremists actually washing their t-shirts...?

    • by artor3 (1344997)

      While some neo-Nazis are self-radicalized, most are raised that way. That's the point of these shirts. To try to sneak a message through to the kids and get them to reconsider whether they really want to follow in their parents' footsteps. With the adults, it's likely too late -- they're too set in their ways. Kids can still change.

      • Re:Genius. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by antifoidulus (807088) on Thursday August 11, 2011 @01:18AM (#37052840) Homepage Journal
        Its really hard to pinpoint an exact cause, but it should be noted that neo-nazism is much more prevalent in the former East Germany, with its much higher unemployment, than west, which is considerably richer. Furthermore its quite popular among young men without university educations, who get royally fucked over in Germany(not as bad as in the states, but still). All the strikes work out great for the older people who have jobs, but they make it much more unlikely the companies are going to hire any more people, which sucks hard for the young Germans.....

        I also guess it really depends on what you define neo-nazism as, to some Germans doing anything that vaguely takes pride in some sort of German cultural identity is neo-nazisism, and to an extent I think the whole movement is just a response to that.....

        But ultimately the extremists in Germany are largely comprised of the same types of people, those who cannot get meaningful jobs/work, as it is anywhere else in the rich world. You arent likely to see a lot of engineers in the hard core Japanese right wing socities, but you do see people who 30 years ago probably would have ended up in a factor with a decent middle class lifestyle. Likewise you arent going to see a lot of scientists in the religious right, but what you will see are people whose best hope in life is to get a job working at Wal-Mart for low pay and no benefits, people who again 30 years ago probably would have had a comfortable middle class lifestyle with a job that actually had at least some, maybe not a lot, but some significance. People need meaning in their lives, if they cannot find it at work, they are going to find some other cause to get behind, and the results are rarely pretty.
        • by Alex Belits (437) *

          30 years ago probably would have ended up in a factor with a decent middle class lifestyle.

          Why? If they are poor now, there is no reason to expect that they would fare any better in 80's (or at any other point in history). You are trying to make parallels with post-WWI Germany where EVERYONE was worse off than before the war, but this just isn't the case. Poor and ignorant people are likely to blame other races and ethnicities for their misfortune regardless of any facts.

          • Re:Genius. (Score:4, Informative)

            by antifoidulus (807088) on Thursday August 11, 2011 @02:27AM (#37053090) Homepage Journal
            You might want to revisit your history before commenting. I wasnt trying to draw parallels to right after the war, I was trying to draw parallels to peak factory employment. Hell through the 50s and 60s Germany had so few young male workers that they had to import them "temporarily" from abroad. Thats part of how the whole immigration mess got started, at least there. From pretty much the early 50s to about 30 years ago factory jobs were plentiful, pretty much any (male) that wanted one could get one and could enter the middle class. Not to mention they were a hell of a lot more meaningful then walking around in a smock all day listening to people bitch you out.

            Now unless you have an education, and sometimes even then, the # of jobs that are open to you that will provide a middle class lifestyle are almost non-existant if you dont already have one. Germanys GINI coefficient is rising, especially among the young.
    • Actually, since they're probably children

      How do you know this?

  • That is awesome (Score:5, Interesting)

    by KingSkippus (799657) on Thursday August 11, 2011 @12:30AM (#37052646) Homepage Journal

    That is one of the most awesome ideas I've read about. I especially liked the part where they acknowledged that it probably won't do any good now, but it plants the name in their heads for when they're ready to get out of their extremist organization.

    Say, anyone want to chip in for some t-shirts to give away at the next Tea Party convention?

    • by rolfwind (528248)

      Say, anyone want to chip in for some t-shirts to give away at the next Tea Party convention?

      I met a lot of ignorant Tea Partiers, but they seem to be at the bottom level. But many of the upper level people have a grasp.

      The thing is, on the Democratic side, I have seen much of the same thing. The average voter is pretty ignorant, period.

      Now, I know it went from a Ron Paul/Libertarian founded group to a Fox News/GOP overtaken "organization", but honestly, I find the heaps of scorn it recieves a bit ironic,

      • Re:That is awesome (Score:5, Interesting)

        by artor3 (1344997) on Thursday August 11, 2011 @02:59AM (#37053208)

        The difference is that the wacko left-winger Democrats are kept out in the fringe, whereas the wacko Tea Party types have essentially taken over the Republican party. This situation is made worse by the fact that those same nitwits who control the GOP are receiving their marching orders from Fox News, as you said. So nearly half the government of the United States is now directly controlled by a single corporation. If that doesn't terrify you, it should.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Billly Gates (198444)

          Name one fringe left wing democrat? I mean one? Kucinich is the only one I know of. I laugh at those who say Obama is a radical socialist. He is far from it

          • by asylumx (881307)

            I laugh at those who say Obama is a radical socialist. He is far from it

            No, but if they keep saying it, more people start believing it. Even moderate Republicans have been saying things like this.

    • by drolli (522659)

      Just sent one to everybody who owes more than one months salary to the the credit card companies.

  • by abednegoyulo (1797602) on Thursday August 11, 2011 @12:30AM (#37052648)

    it was not one of those gathering that simulates rain. Imagine their reaction if the artificial rain washes away the external print exposing the message hidden beneath. That would not be a party, would it..

  • So what? Are they trying to white wash the issues?

  • by Dachannien (617929) on Thursday August 11, 2011 @12:54AM (#37052754)

    I give you free stuff and it turns out to be unsuitable for its apparent purpose. Wow, I really tricked you there.

    Still, it's kind of amusing.

  • everyone knows that if you're hardcore enough your clothes never get dirty.

    • by Lisias (447563)

      everyone knows that if you're hardcore enough your clothes never get laundered.


      I fixed that for you.

  • I am an American that has lived in Germany for some time. Most of these people are not "children" and the definition of a "child" is quite different here than back home. Also to wear, own or display anything from the Nazi era will land you in jail unlike back home in America where you are free to where Nazi uniforms, fly their flags (I can think of one instance lately where a guy in Michigan flew a Nazi flag to celebrate his grandmothers birthday as he put it). Don't get me wrong there are still extremist h

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