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Fundraiser For "White Male" Illness Dropped 241

gubachwa writes "The student association at Carleton University in Canada recently voted that Cystic Fibrosis was a charity unworthy of receiving money raised during orientation week fund-raising activities. The reason behind the decision, as given in the motion on which the student association voted, is that Cystic Fibrosis 'has been recently revealed to only affect white people, and primarily men.'" I'm speechless.


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Fundraiser For "White Male" Illness Dropped

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  • Update (Score:5, Informative)

    by thox_rendar ( 1156897 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @02:38PM (#25910275)
    This was a decision reached several days ago, and it has since been brought to the attention of the students that they were misinformed. They have already made a public apology for the negative press to the school and will repeal their decision at the next council meeting of the student association.
    • Re:Update (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 27, 2008 @03:01PM (#25910409)

      Did they repeal their racist and sexist attitude or is that still okay?

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        Perhaps the charity money should be used to send the people responsible for this decision to racial and sexual discrimination therapy. It would go a long way towards improving the world's situation.
      • Re:Update (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Lulfas ( 1140109 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @06:13PM (#25911455)
        Didn't you know? Racist and sexist opinions against white males are encouraged. Feeling different is considered racist and sexist.
    • Re:Update (Score:5, Insightful)

      by girlintraining ( 1395911 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @03:06PM (#25910431)

      Which is the least they can do. Seriously though -- they were "misinformed" that the disease that only affects white males but that doesn't excuse the fact that a disease is still a disease and they were being racist douchebags by locking it out in the first place.

    • Re:Update (Score:5, Insightful)

      by MindlessAutomata ( 1282944 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @03:15PM (#25910473)

      Maybe they were misinformed, but so what? The fact that they would vote based on that criteria, affecting only "white men", is just as disgusting as voting against a fundraiser for sickle-cell anemia because a great proportion of those suffering from it are black.

      Some of the politics universities are associated with is downright disgusting. University students, I've seen, are often anti-freedom of speech (for political correctness) in the LEFT-WING direction because "people just shouldn't say that" and yes, rightly or wrongly there is a huge stigma against being conservative in any sense--I don't mean against gays or whatever, I mean small-government, fiscal conservatives, not the Republican "conservative". Throw in some of the weirdo racial ideas where "race is just a social construct it doesn't really exist we shouldn't judge based on race!" along with the "affirmative action is necessary to protect racial groups that I just said didn't really exist!" in the next breath and it's hard not to roll your eyes or become disgusted.

      Then there was my black studies class I took to see if it was everything I thought it would be. Oh was it ever! The text book was written by ex-felon Maulana Karenga, Black Panther and inventor of Kwanzaa; the book was full of Afrocentrism, anti-capitalist bullshit, had whooping factual errors (even claimed that blacks were the first to the Americas leaving behind the Olmec statues!) and went so far as to capitalize "Black" and kept "white" lowercase. The premise of the class was really attacking everything that was "European-American" and exalting everything "African", of course everything "bad" like capitalism, competition, the patriarchy, empirical science was associated with the "European-American worldview" and everything "good" like "holism, caring and sharing, matrilineal descent, and intuition" were part of the "African worldview". Do note that the same type of distinction is made by loony feminists as well.

      University racial politics are really disgusting and I think a lot of it stems from stupid, naive kids entering college without the ability to think critically; they mean well but are easily led.

      Those are my observations, YMMV.

      • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Very true, but made entirely more amusing by your user name.

      • Re:Update (Score:5, Informative)

        by cvd6262 ( 180823 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @09:20PM (#25912377)

        As a faculty member, I must say that... ... I totally agree.

        Some members of our faculty recently read a book on "white privilege" which cited documented falsehoods to justify the author's position.

        What's worse is the rise (far more in the social sciences) of "critical" research methodologies. With these, the "researcher" doesn't control for their own bias, but admits to researching in support of their stated biases (usually the empowerment of the disenfranchised).

        I told one colleague that when you begin research knowing the answers (rather than the questions), you're a lobbyist, not a researcher. That wasn't well received.

      • by sheldon ( 2322 )

        Wow, so college is still about arguing stupid unimportant points.

        Man you'd think after 20 years they would have changed by now.

        Grow up kid, you aren't a victim in this life and you can choose to ignore stuff you don't like.

    • Re:Update (Score:5, Informative)

      by gubachwa ( 716303 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @07:50PM (#25911957)
      Such an ignorantly worded motion should have never passed in the first place. It also took quite sometime for a real apology to be forthcoming, and it was not until after the Carleton president got involved. The initial reaction by CUSA to the backlash was that students and the rest of the country just "didn't get it". Brittany Smyth, the CUSA president, kept trying to explain away the decision as having nothing to do with the clause that said CF was a white male illness. You can hear her here [], on CFRA (Ottawa) radio. After a couple of days of public outrage, and a petition to have her impeached, Brittany did finally issue a somewhat mediocre apology [].

      The real star of this debacle is Donnie Northrup, the 4th year science student who authored the original motion. He made some interesting comments [] to a reporter of the Ottawa Citizen. Essentially, he regrets that we misunderstood the intent of his motion, and that he should have worded the motion more carefully. He claimed that he slipped up because he had a lot of homework due at the time. And to make himself look like a bigger ass than he's already made himself out to be, he adds that "writing is not something he's focusing his degree on."

      So yeah, the decision is being revisited, but the idiots who made it are still idiots, and bringing attention to this stupidity is still worthwhile.
    • by mrmeval ( 662166 )

      Not good enough.

  • They've already realized what a huge mess they've made and are working at rectifying the situation. Thanks for keeping up on the latest news on the issue. []

  • what's sadder here? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by v1 ( 525388 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @02:41PM (#25910293) Homepage Journal

    That they did it, or that anyone cares?

    Shouldn't we stop fund raising for prostate cancer because it only affects men!
    Discrimination? Someone needs their head adjusted. Maybe raising funds for condition xxx isn't a good idea, but that's a ridiculous reason to stop.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by mbstone ( 457308 )

      What's sad is male-oriented products, e.g. razor blades, with packaging touting their contribution to womyn's diseases like breast cancer. When is Gillette going to give a piece of my razor-blade money to fighting prostate cancer?

      • Many women use razor blades too. They have a hell of a lot more surface area to shave.

        They get better quality/longer lasting blades, too :-(

        • by LSD-OBS ( 183415 )

          They have a hell of a lot more surface area to shave

          Speak for yourself. I have to shave ALL THE WAY up my legs, as well as my face.

      • by qbzzt ( 11136 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @06:49PM (#25911603)

        What's sad is male-oriented products, e.g. razor blades, with packaging touting their contribution to womyn's diseases like breast cancer.

        My wife handles most of our shopping. They need to convince her which brand to buy, even if I'm the ultimate user.

        • by Farmer Tim ( 530755 ) <roundfile&mindless,com> on Friday November 28, 2008 @01:06AM (#25913623) Journal

          What's sad is male-oriented products, e.g. razor blades, with packaging touting their contribution to womyn's diseases like breast cancer.

          My wife handles most of our shopping. They need to convince her which brand to buy, even if I'm the ultimate user.

          Ever wondered why she buys the brand that supports research that will let her live much longer than you? It's a subtle message: buy your own damn razor blades or die.

      • by TRS-80 ( 15569 )

        So boycott Gillette by growing a moustache for Movember [] which raises money to fight prostate cancer.

      • What's sad is people relying on their razor blade purchases to donate to charity
        and complaining when it's the wrong one.

        Jeez, it's not like most medical research is funded by Gillette anyway, it's just marketing.
        If you really care about prostate cancer research, go and donate to that. If you for some reason
        want razor blades without contributing to breast cancer research, buy some different
        ones. And a backbone. You are not being discriminated.

    • by nick_davison ( 217681 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @08:30PM (#25912189)


      Shouldn't we stop fund raising for prostate cancer because it only affects men!


      No. We should stop fund raising for it because it kills people. Let's, instead, start fundraising for its cure.

      Never could figure out why people keep trying to raise money for cancer.

      • Well, cancer needs a better marketing team and a better lawyer.
        The whole thing is just a side-effect of bit-errors in human DNA.
        These may have been caused by radiation, inbreeding,
            sunbathing, chemical imbalance or a dozen other reasons.

        BTW, did you know that 1 in 200 cases of breast cancer occurs inside a MAN?

  • Awwwwww... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Syrente ( 990349 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @02:52PM (#25910363)
    When I first saw the news topic I thought that some smarmy prankster had started a fundraiser to cure the disease of 'being a white male.' I was going to laugh.
    Now it's all serious, you jerks.

    And thanks to the severity of my condition (whitus maleus) I'm going to die, soon. Way to ruin a dying man's fun.
  • by CestusGW ( 814880 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @03:05PM (#25910427)
    DUHN-DUHN In the Carleton university academic system, there are three groups: the faculty, who try their best to better the school's reputation, the students, who are some kind of horrible hybrid of communist and stupid, and CUSA, whose mandate is to get Carleton into the mainstream press for being stupid at least once every two years. To be clear here - the staff (including the President) of the school don't like CUSA, the students don't like CUSA (the Marxists can't figure out that strikes might hurt the student body), and I'm pretty certain CUSA members must harbour some level of self-loathing over themselves and their bad decisions. So please, don't confound Carleton the school with CUSA the body of idiocy.
    • and CUSA, whose mandate is to get Carleton into the mainstream press for being stupid at least once every two years

      I most venomously object to this underestimation of CUSA... the mandate is to be as stupid as possible as often as possible!

    • It sounds to me like CUSA is pretty spot-on if they're highlighting the stupidity of the Marxist student body.

    • by Straif ( 172656 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @04:05PM (#25910755) Homepage

      It's amazing how much money CUSA cost the university in Alumni giving every year. Every Carleton grad I know refuses to give based solely on CUSA; and the fact I can see the main campus from my office window I can tell you I know quite a few grads.

      • by Shotgun ( 30919 )

        So, where does CUSA support come from? I can understand the freshman class being wild-eyed and stupid, but I would expect some maturity to set in by the time their senior year starts to roll around. If they are still wild-eyed and stupid during the senior year, I can only blame that on the faculty. Somebody didn't do their job.

  • by Drakkenmensch ( 1255800 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @03:15PM (#25910477)
    Anyone who decides to cut off funding to a specific disease's research based on political correctness should have to explain to a 7 year old boy dying from that disease why it's okay for him to die because of his group demographic. Preferably in the presence of his parents, so they can be devastated for a second time.
    • by Kjella ( 173770 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @04:36PM (#25910923) Homepage

      Preferably in the presence of his parents, so they can be devastated for a second time.

      And beat the living shit out of that bastard too. Just claim he fell town a flight of stairs. Twice.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by gujo-odori ( 473191 )

        Ambrose Bierce said, "There are four kinds of Homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable, and praiseworthy."

        I think dragging those idiots up and down the stairs a few times would qualify you for a Nobel Peace Prize, since it would improve the world so much, especially if they didn't survive.

        After all, the generation that fought and WW II understood perfectly well that sometimes the best way to bring about peace is to kill the evildoers and make such an example of them that people are afraid to screw with y

  • Sad and Stupid (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jjohnson ( 62583 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @03:51PM (#25910679) Homepage

    Diseases that affect minorities tend to receive, not just less, but disproportionately less funding than better known, "white" diseases, just because they get crowded out of the awareness space that correlates directly to fundraising dollars. CUSA could have accomplished the same intent of switching to an under-fundraised disease without the absurd act of saying "we don't want to help white males". They could have said "we want to help fight this disease that's been overlooked until now because it's mainly minorities that suffer from it." Their heart was in the right place, from all the stories I've read. They were just shockingly tone-deaf in their do-goodism.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      They could have said "we want to help fight this disease that's been overlooked until now because it's mainly minorities that suffer from it."

      Like AIDS. No one ever does anything about AIDS.

  • by Hamster Lover ( 558288 ) * on Thursday November 27, 2008 @05:36PM (#25911269) Journal

    If I was a student at Carleton I would file a complaint with the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario, if for nothing but the delicious irony.

    As much as I hate human rights commissions, this is a perfect opportunity to throw some of the same destructive invective back at those so eager to label any and all things as racist and sexist.

  • Slavery only affected African-Americans... So if we follow the 'logic' of this student association, there was no need to abolish that at all...

    Einstein said.. there are two things that are infinite: the universe and stupidity.. and I'm not too sure about the first...

  • CF Patients (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Physician ( 861339 ) on Thursday November 27, 2008 @11:01PM (#25912963) Homepage
    I've had non-White and non-male patients with cystic fibrosis. Regardless, since when does charity goto the majority of any population? I gave money to a food bank yesterday even though I have no friends or acquaintances who are unable to provide their own food. And should we quit giving money for HIV research? I've never had a friend with HIV and it affects only an extremely small minority of people in the United States. Cystic fibrosis is a devastating disease that keeps kids in the hospital for inordinate amounts of time before they succumb to it in their 20s or 30s. Imagine living your whole life as a kid and teen knowing your life would be cut so short. CF is worthy of our research.
  • And I prefer the term 'darkness-challenged', thank you.
  • by Digital_Quartz ( 75366 ) on Friday November 28, 2008 @09:41AM (#25915487) Homepage

    The Carleton University Students Association being stupid is pretty much par for the course.

    When I was at Carleton, one of the CUSA VPs was very outspoken when CUSA banned a political magazine which ran an ad featuring a fairly tasteful photo of a woman naked from the waist down (not a terribly sexy photo, and not a photo that showed anything exciting), claiming it was exploitative to use nudity to sell a product. When the next month's issue of said VPs favorite GLBT rag came out with an extremely graphic condom ad which if I recall correctly featured two naked men (which left nothing to the imagination), he said that THIS ad was obviously not exploitative, and was just trying to sell a product.

    This is also the student organization which decided last year to ban anti-abortion clubs, which regardless of your thoughts on abortion still reeks of censorship.

    I like to this of CUSA as kind of like a senile grandmother. She comes out whenever you have guests, says a bunch of politically incorrect nonsense, embarrasses everyone, and you just try to pretend she isn't there.

"Never face facts; if you do, you'll never get up in the morning." -- Marlo Thomas