Man Accuses Cat of Downloading Child Porn 174
bruce_the_loon writes "They have blamed viruses. They have blamed neighbors. They have accused police of planting it. In rare cases, they have admitted downloading it. This is the first time someone has accused a cat of downloading child porn onto their computer. This seems like a defense almost too stupid to be made up."
I Sympathise with the Cat (Score:5, Funny)
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This happens a lot (Score:5, Funny)
You shouldn't let your cat surf the web unattended. Without proper supervision, they will start downloading kitty porn to your hard drive.
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I fear to check the cache *shrug*
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Ceiling cat wanted to know what the big deal was.
Now I *know* ceiling cat has supernatural powers- an image hosted by Ebaumsworld that hasn't been illegally watermarked by them.
It's such a shame how they've gone downhill since that thieving, dishonest piece of shit Eric Bauman sold the company.
Re:This happens a lot (Score:4, Funny)
First time I ever heard about "kiddy porn", I misheard it for "kitty porn".
For quite a while, I assumed a lot of people were getting steamed up about some weird pink anime thing, or some kind of playboy performers.
Re:This happens a lot (Score:5, Funny)
Especially if your cat is a purrvert.
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just hope the cops don'e buy that feLINE .....
Re:This happens a lot (Score:4, Funny)
Jesus H. Christ. Want some cheese to go with that whine?
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"and it my shit a cataleptic fit."
WTF?? I think you should be content with redundant and be glad there are no -1 Idiotic or -1 Disgusting mods.
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I might have expected this from a dog, terrible, immoral creatures as they are, but a sweet, fluffy cat? Never!
You can stop this activity (Score:2)
Just take away his Fancy Feast.
i think you mean (Score:3, Funny)
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PedoCat? (Score:1, Funny)
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12 cat years would make it granny porn.
The purrrrrrrrfect ... (Score:5, Funny)
Coulda been worse (Score:1)
At least he didn't blame his child for downloading kitty porn.
http://www.livenudecats.com/lnc.php?page=allnude/specialdelivery [livenudecats.com]
Never trust a petophile.
There is software to protect against this... (Score:3, Informative)
When cats walk or climb on your keyboard, they can enter random commands and data, damage your files, and even crash your computer. This can happen whether you are near the computer or have suddenly been called away from it.
PawSense is a software utility that helps protect your computer from cats. It quickly detects and blocks cat typing, and also helps train your cat to stay off the computer keyboard.
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That has to be one smart filter to detect the difference between a normal vi or emacs command stream and cat steps.
ESC W - CTRL-A :.-3,.+4s/a/z/g
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Re:There is software to protect against this... (Score:4, Funny)
From the software FAQ:
Q: My cat is deaf. Can you help me?
A: PawSense detects the paws of even deaf cats. Even if a cat is deaf, PawSense blocks cat typing once detected. This makes it harder for the cat to mess up your programs, data files, and operating system.
However, PawSense does not include a miracle cure for deafness.
1 - How stupid can a person be before he is legally considered handicaped?
2 - I wonder how much they charge extra for the deluxe package with miracle cure included!
Re:There is software to protect against this... (Score:5, Informative)
I'm guessing that the question is in regards to the deterrence feature, which is likely some loud noise or pre-recorded cat-hiss, that the program emits when it detects a cat on your keyboard. From the linked page: If a cat gets on the keyboard, PawSense makes a sound that annoys cats. This teaches your cat that getting on the keyboard is bad even if humans aren't watching.
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This teaches your cat that getting on the keyboard is bad even if humans aren't watching.
Or more likely, given that this is cats we're talking, it trains your cat to walk on your keyboard in patterns that won't be caught by the software.
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I know you jest, but if you actually happen to be interested it is - grossly simplified - at an IQ of about 70 [wikipedia.org]. IQ far from tells the entire picture, but at least where I live (Sweden), the state (and other state related functions) is obliged by law to provide certain extra help to people with an IQ sub 70. The tests are usually (possibly always?) administered by a psychologist that also weighs in their professional opinion about the
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When cats walk or climb on your keyboard, they can enter random commands and data, damage your files, and even crash your computer. This can happen whether you are near the computer or have suddenly been called away from it.
And if you're not careful, attempting to delete it can turn you into a Freakazoid! [imdb.com]
@[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg
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they can enter random commands and data, damage your files
Er not on windows. If you have a shell open you plausibly could end up with rm -rf [wildcard] or [anycommand] > /dev/sda (ouch!)
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I'm pretty sure they could manage to press the delete key and then enter on your important documents (shift-delete if they're really good).
Or hold backspace on your open word document (quite a few people don't know that "undo" also works for deletions, surprisingly).
Appropriate comic (Score:4, Funny)
http://lol-comics.livejournal.com/63218.html [livejournal.com]
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He's "horny" in every single one of his posts.
lol cat (Score:5, Funny)
Chris Hansen should interview the cat (Score:5, Funny)
He'll get to the bottom of this.
"You walk in here on all fours naked making strange noises and rubbing against my leg..who knows what would have happened if I hadn't been here"
This is why I don't own a cat (Score:4, Funny)
Florida (Score:3, Insightful)
I feel embarrassed saying I'm from Florida sometimes.
Re:Florida (Score:5, Insightful)
Yep,... that's why the state has it's own Fark tag [fark.com],... =)
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Is it possible? I guess. Just dropping something on my keyboard I've had improbable keystrokes take place, and that only triggered 2-3 "clicks." A cat could generate a LOT of clicks, a bunch of it could be valid input (enter, spacebar, mouseclick, tab, mouse move, etc).
As a juror, would I buy it? No. Though it does raise a doubt, I wouldn't feel it a reasonable one. It's too improbable, and I doubt they would be able to replicate the scenario in a court room.
But to play devil's advocate...
The guy coul
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Of course, then reality sets in. The best refutation I can think of is the amounts. If the car downloaded thousands of kiddie porn images, then there should be lots of other kinds of images (perhaps 100s of thousands) along with them.
Now, I have downloaded a fair amount of porn myself since I was 16 and first got online (15 years now! wow...) anyway.... in that time, how many times, looking for porn or not, did I stumble on child porn.
The answer: Once. While on usenet and doing the old "download multiple messages and string them together" on my Apple 2 GS which took about 5 minutes to render a JPG in black and white online... well...
I built up a collection in those days... and one of those pictures it turned out was child porn (which wasn't evident until it was viewed on a more powerful machine with much better resolution, and in color years later)
So one, out of, several thousand images over 15 years, was child porn. It turned up on usenet.... which nobody really uses for porn anymore as far as I know.
I MIGHT believe this guy if a handful... 2 or 3 or something images were downloaded. I might even believe he did it himself accidentally. However.... this argument just doesn't fit the evidence.
The only other way it would make sense is if it was taken from the cache of a freenet node he was running. However, I would think a specific case like that would be mentioned in the article, and would not necessitate the "cat story"
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-Steve
Ditto here (Score:2)
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Believe me, if this had been something that happened within the past several years, I probably wouldn't have. However, I haven't used Usenet to download porn since I was 16 and on an Apple 2 GS. Given that I am over 30 now, and the only evidence that it ever happened is well... me telling a story about something that happened so many years ago.... while I was a minor myself.... well....
Lets just say, I am not terribly worried. Should it end up requiring me to dig out an OLD GS, and display some jpegs on it
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man when you are 16 you make do with what you have. Its kinda like being a kid and watching the scrambled playboy channel because every once in a while, the screen isn't so messed up and you can see some titty.
Admittedly that was around the time someone did make a VGA card for the GS, but... I didn't even know about it until later, and I certainly couldn't afford it.
-Steve
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Actually thats true. In fact, I am one of those weirdos who decided he didn't like downloading music back when napster was new... not for any moral reason... just that the quality was so variable and I am a bit of a zealot about how my music is organized.
I also don't watch that many movies. However, I still have to imagine that a cat is a random input. A random input should cause downloads of various types of things based on the relative ratios of whats found online in general.
So essentially, thousands of p
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You do have a real point there. Look at Tracy Lords. She lied about her age and was in a whole series of hardcore movies... then turned 18, revealed her real age, and did one more movie. You almost have to wonder if it was planned that way!
Of course, when you are talking images on the net, there is always the problem of well... what is what?
How often is there even exif data? Most are not named in any identifiable way. Unless the model in the photo is known from something else, how would you know who she is?
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As a juror, would I buy it? No. Though it does raise a doubt, I wouldn't feel it a reasonable one. It's too improbable, and I doubt they would be able to replicate the scenario in a court room.
But to play devil's advocate...
The guy could've had a Search Engine up, perhaps searching for ordinary/legal trash. He walks away and the cat jumps on desk and initiates a click-action on one of the bad links that can come up in the search-noise. Perhaps while taking a number of steps on the keyboard, or perhaps lying down on the thing and mashing keys. The resulting actions click on the bad link on the search results, click another link for images (perhaps a zip of a sampler"), and the next thing you know it's on his computer. And if it happened while a P2P client was up, then it's probably more possible as it might've clicked into a remote user's folders and did a download-all.
That gives me an idea...
Let this guy get aquitted on the basis of his cat.
All child porn fans would then get cats.
Then we arrest everyone with a cat because they must be downloading child porn!
Are Amazon patents a bad idea...? (Score:1)
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fixed that for you....Thank you, thank you very much. I will be here all week. Don't forget to tip the waitstaff..
sadly enough (Score:1)
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Possibly the greatest story ever told. (Score:1)
Worse than children downloading (Score:1, Redundant)
kitty porn?
This proves it! (Score:4, Funny)
But a cat is capable of using the Internet (not to mention framing his owner). Sorry, dog owners, cats are clearly smarter!
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And for sure he used.. (Score:3, Funny)
Infinite Porn Theorem (Score:1)
Note to self (Score:5, Funny)
Idle? (Score:1)
Re:Idle? (Score:5, Funny)
Makes jury duty attractive (Score:4, Funny)
If counties were smart, they'd have a "serve one, get a second silly one" deal.
Uh oh... (Score:5, Funny)
I have over 1 Quadrillion pornographic images on my computer.
Yes, I'm a Petaphile.
The cat must have a great lawyer... (Score:1, Redundant)
CD Behind radiator (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:CD Behind radiator (Score:4, Interesting)
One case a colleague of mine involved the usual defense of "a trojan did it"
I'm rather surprised trojans don't do it more often. It seems like a pretty viable extortion scheme:
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You poor thing, do you work for Verizon? (Score:2)
or AntiSpyware2009?
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Probably no need to actually notify the police in the event of non-payment. Maybe better having it randomly flash up an image with a reminder they need to pay for the "cleaning software". I think a lot of people would pay to make THAT stop.
However the main problem is that receiving money from people is hard to do without being traceable by the police.
And this kind of trojan would get you charged with unlawful use of a computer as well as distribution of child pornography images.
Probably the potential reward
Re:CD Behind radiator (Score:5, Interesting)
I would like to get into computer forensics, but I'm afraid I would be spending all my time going after dirty old men, rather than prosecuting real crimes with real victims and damages. Worse than that, I'm afraid I would be forced to attempt to make cases against people who had no intention of downloading illegal content at all (does a 17year 11month old girl look any different from an 18 year old?).
So as someone who has worked in the industry, I ask you: is modern computer Forensics at all about prosecuting serious crime, or is it just playing porno police? What is your caseload like? The idea of having a hand in ruining someones life for looking at a picture of a sexually mature female just seems immoral to me, and I would want no hand in it.
Re:CD Behind radiator (Score:5, Informative)
I would like to get into computer forensics, but I'm afraid I would be spending all my time going after dirty old men, rather than prosecuting real crimes with real victims and damages. Worse than that, I'm afraid I would be forced to attempt to make cases against people who had no intention of downloading illegal content at all (does a 17year 11month old girl look any different from an 18 year old?).
So as someone who has worked in the industry, I ask you: is modern computer Forensics at all about prosecuting serious crime, or is it just playing porno police? What is your caseload like? The idea of having a hand in ruining someones life for looking at a picture of a sexually mature female just seems immoral to me, and I would want no hand in it.
That's a damn fine question and there are cases where it is very borderline but those cases either don't make it to court or there is a plea bargain struck where some kind of community service is involved (generally not with children!). Also, though I would say about 70% of the work the company I work for gets is Indecent Images related there is work involving differing crimes including fraud, drugs, rape, murder and people smuggling. I will not lie and say I agree with the dragnet approach our customers (mostly Police forces) seize computers and often there are many hundreds of superfluous hours of analysis poured into a case that has no merit (I had a case with 70ish exhibits in that took months of processing and ended up completely negative) but, if you can handle trawling through gigs of porn, it is a rewarding career. I would advise you not do an academic qualification in the field but get some (or use your existing) real-world computing experience and build your analytical and written skills then apply for a trainee post if you can find one. Learn the tools if you can afford it (EnCase and FTK are both hellishly expensive but the individual training courses (CF1 and CF2 for EnCase) are fairly affordable and useful for a noob). I wish you luck in your future career should you get into the industry!
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That aside, suppose among the gigs of pictures of adult females, there happen to be 3-4 of some 14-16 year olds' web cam self-shots, or some Traci Lords video of her at age 17? Among a hundred thousand Ok photos and four hundred videos involving 2000+ hours? While one might question the packrat nature of this "collector", would the police consider that some kind of "pervert child porn downloader"?
Absolutely. Just look at recent child pornography busts in the news. If prosecutors feel justified in arresting teenagers for taking pictures of themselves they sure as hell will go after your "collector" example.
Police/prosecutors only care about their arrest and conviction numbers, and they get little negative feedback from busting borderline cases because most of the public is all CHILD PORN OMG KILL THEM.
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Good to hear. It sounds like you work for a decent employer. I will surely look for a place like yours.
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It makes me feel safer knowing that you and your ilk are helping to put people that look at pictures OF CHILDREN BEING ABUSED in prison. Oh wait... no it doesn't.
FTFY. Oh... and you're welcome pal!
So when cats masturbate... (Score:2, Insightful)
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Human Babies, that is why God hasn't stopped abortion, it makes his job easier when dealing with Cat Masturbation.
He just subtracts the number of abortions from the cat M-count, then tops off the rest the children from third world countries.
Damn cats, they are colluding with God in an effort to remove the human race.
New RIAA filesharing defense? (Score:2, Informative)
I AM IN YUR COMPUTER (Score:3, Funny)
DOWNLOADING YUR PR0N....
So quoth the Almighty LOL-Cat
The downloading I can maybe believe... (Score:2)
..but did his cat also drop the pr0n into folders classified by sub-genre?
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It was all true (Score:2)
The cat being intelligent as it is, was quite finished with his current master, having set him up to take the fall, he had inserted some hidden p0rn and anonymously contacted the feds. He is now surfing the web at his leisure...
In other news, there has been a new type of post on Craigslist getting attention, Cats Looking For New Masters....picture included!
If the cat is found guilty... (Score:2, Funny)
Obligatory... (Score:2, Funny)
Need a new cat (Score:4, Funny)
My cat only downloads articles from wikipedia. Mostly stuff on herbs and computer pointing devices. Guess I need a cat that hasn't been spayed.
It just goes to show... (Score:2)
oops (Score:4, Funny)
Cat? What? Damn... (Score:2)
Well, the burden of proof is on the prosecution!
Of course, it doesn't work quite that way, but it would be hilarious if we could see a Dirk Gentry-esque explanation to exactly how this could or couldn't have happened...
I wonder if he read Slashdot... (Score:2)
The real tragedy... (Score:2, Funny)
The fix (Score:2)
The fix is to change the operating system [wordpress.com].
Talk about... (Score:2)
Play him off, Keyboard Cat.
Sunshine State (Score:2)
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I head that Toonces was the get-away driver....
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> theirs no way a cat can download 1,000s of images by walking on the keyboard
There is if the guy left his browser on the download page of a site with child porn.
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Maybe there were 10 individual girls in the photos.