Man Gets 15 Years For Trying to Break Back Into Jail 36
25-year-old Floridian Sylvester Jiles needed a safe place to hide after being released from prison so he chose the safest place he could think of, jail. Jiles accepted a plea deal on a manslaughter charge after the 2007 shooting death of a 19-year-old, and was sentenced to eight years of probation. Three days before his release Jiles begged officers to take him back in custody, because he feared retaliation from the victim's family. When they denied his request, he tried to scale a 12-foot fence at the detention center. He was arrested and convicted of trespassing on jail property and resisting an officer. A judge sentenced him to 15 years in prison for violating his probation on Monday.
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No it isn't. If you killed someone in a genuine accident you wouldn't be guilty of anything, especially if the accident was partly the fault of the victim.
By genuine accident I mean you aren't driving recklessly in a known unsafe car, etc etc.
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Yeah, and American prosecutors NEVER go after people who are innocent.
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Last time I looked, it was a thing called a jury that decides if you go to jail or not.
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So what? A jury decides the verdict and a judge decides the sentence. And even before the trail there's a grand jury - if they decide there's no case to answer there won't even be a trial.
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First, there is only a Grand Jury in certain states. Washington State, for instance, does not have a Grand Jury... the judge merely decides if there is probable cause.
Second, the judge also decides what evidence the jury can listen to. I am a defense attorney and my client just went to jail because the judge wouldn't let us present evidence that would have proven his innocence... why? Because the judge wants to get re-elected and wants to look "tough on crime". What the easiest way to do that? Ignore truth,
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Our judicial system is far more broken than most Americans believe.
Yep. Education and health and elections and bunch of other basic-social-structure things too, all work terribly. Everyone loves to complain about everything, nobody wants to get their hands dirty and go work in it and fix it, study how it works, spend time. People want to make money. What makes money isn't fixing society, it's things that take money from people, whether it's useful or not, good or not.. it takes money, it makes money.
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One, your assumption that people automatically want to get out of jury duty is unfounded. Some people have nothing better to do. Some are curious. Some might even have a sense of civic duty. I haven't done it myself but I've been told it's interesting.
Two, I'd rather have 12 dumb ones than one biased one - which is the system countries like France do.
Three, it still isn't the prosecutor who decides, which is what you asserted before.
Finally, anyone who writes crap like "leave your fate in a group" is in
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Accident != "Genuine" accident.
Manslaughter does mean "accidental" death. Death with intent is called "murder".
A genuine accident (I tripped on a crack in the sidewalk and fell over, bumping into you and knocking your head into a building and killing you) is still technically manslaughter (killing a person), but there would be no conviction because it was truly an accident. I had no intention of killing you or even harming you. I could still be held civilly liable for your death in a lawsuit, but I could
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Really? I'd have thought a genuine [thefreedictionary.com] accident would be the most accidental kind of accident there could be.
Technically schmechnically. If it was manslaughter then there would be a conviction, subject to the usual gu
the definition of manslaughter (Score:1)
In this case he shot and killed someone. But there may have been the elements for a murder conviction that would have been hard to prove.
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So when someone simply asks to be put in jail, they should be allowed even if they have done nothing wrong?
Having said that - when so-called punishment becomes more attractive than normal life, there must be something seriously wrong going on. Surely this guy could have found somewhere else to stay for a while, and would be perfectly within his rights to protect himself against vengeful morons (though perhaps now that he's actually killed someone he never wants to have to do anything like it again)
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Well, then the residents of FL have either chosen this, or elected people who have chosen it, and have not un-elected them and elected new people who will un-choose it. Therefore, FL is getting exactly what they wanted, by majority rule. Sometimes it's easy to forget that the people actually do have power and do run this country, but unfortunately most of the people are dumb and lazy, and place far too much power
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Somehow I don't think voting for one of two or three parties really gets down to the nitty gritty of your exact views on stupid laws and stupid systems. No matter who you vote for there are always going to be things you disagree with that are not changed, and even things that you agree with that will be changed.
Voting is next to worthless as far as getting your opinion across is concerned - there are hundreds of reasons to vote for one guy over another, and it's not very likely that you'd be able to tell ev
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It's because jail has free food, free healthcare, stuff to do, TV, internet, etc.
All paid for by the taxpayers.
I haven't been to a jail, but somehow I don't think most people think it's that great, haven't seen many cases of people trying to get in. Perhaps you liked it, though, I guess it's understandable.
Logic FTW! (Score:1)
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I like the fact that the sentence for climbing a fence is close to double the sentence for manslaughter. Broken society FTW!
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Actually, if you read the submission closely, he was convicted for breaking his probation (which states you have to keep a clean nose for the entire time, even a trespassing charge is a no-no). Though doubling the original sentence is retarded.
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It's almost like they are rewarding his stupidity by giving him exactly what he wanted even though originally they didn't want to give it to him.......
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attempted suicide is probably a death penalty rap there,too...
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Almost?
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So I guess he got what he wanted, right? (Score:2)
See subject line...
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I used to live in the county that man was in. The jail system is so messed up down there. First off the prisons are all private which means they get their paycheck from the state for every inmate they hold for over 24 hours. This might be OK for the state for economical reasons but its the judges that are the owners of the jails. I did some research after sitting in jail for 57 hours for a speeding ticket also my mother practices law down there and tells me this is true. They find lots of ways to keep peo
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I used to live in the county that man was in. The jail system is so messed up down there. First off the prisons are all private which means they get their paycheck from the state for every inmate they hold for over 24 hours. This might be OK for the state for economical reasons but its the judges that are the owners of the jails. I did some research after sitting in jail for 57 hours for a speeding ticket also my mother practices law down there and tells me this is true. They find lots of ways to keep people around for as long as possible. Its in the best interest of the whole judicial system down there to have as many inmates as possible.
Oh god. I had always thought that privatized prisons were certainly going to lead to increased incarcerations, but now we can see the proof. These "Wars on X" are really just wars on the people.