Waitress Fired For Complaining About Tip On Facebook 49
22-year-old Ashley Johnson lost her job after she complained about a poor tip on Facebook. She felt the $5 tip from a couple who had sat in her section for 3 hours was a joke, and wrote about it on the social networking site. From the article: "Brixx officials told Johnson a couple of days later that she was being fired because she violated a company policy banning workers from speaking disparagingly about customers and casting the restaurant in a bad light on a social network." Silly Ashley, as everyone who has worked in a restaurant can tell you, complaining on Facebook isn't the answer. If you want to get back at bad customers you overcharge them, or put something in their food.
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That is stupid enough to forget that they have people from work on their facebook and then gets fired over a post.
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Back-slapping in echo chambers
Facebook defined
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I was in good company so the wait didn't really bother me. But when the service is bad the tip is how you show it. People feel so entitled to getting money without doing the work to deserve it.
On the reverse side of the coin, when a waitress does well, I don't hesitate to leave 25%...
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Why on earth did you leave her a tip at all?
I realise that there is a difference between America and Australia when it comes to restaurant practices, but I am constantly amazed at just how ingrained the concept of tipping is in your culture, even if people do not deserve it.
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Australia is an entirely different animal, especially in regard to minimum wage (I believe you call it fair-pay). The rate exchange for AUD/USD is something like 1:0.85. And after conversion, your minimum-wage (14.31AUD) is over twice that of the US (7.25USD).
However, this US minimum-wage requirements don't apply to "tipped" employees. T
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Thanks, very informative. The More You Know!
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That being, said I'm from Canada. I don't know when it started, but at some point in time we started tipping at the drive through. Now if you don't what to look like a jerk you have to leave something because everyone else does.
It's only polite, Eh!
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Fast food restaurant employees in the US do not, to my knowledge, expect tips. Of course, I think I've been to a fast food restaurant twice in the past year, so maybe I've just never noticed it.
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It's also a common practice in Canada... Except at McDonalds, for some reason they're not allowed to accept tips.
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You can find tip jars at fast-food restaurants, coffee shops...I think I even remember seeing one at a gas-station recently.
Yes, this drives me crazy as well. And generally it's not so much about a "tip" as a place for people to throw coins they don't want to carry.
If I'm at a coffee shop, the only person who might be worthy of a tip might be the barista (if anyone), not the cashier (who sometimes does nothing except hit buttons and give change). But the tip jars are always located by the cash register. Why? They just want people to drop their change in... it has nothing to do with "tipping" in the normal context, since it
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"By leaving a single dollar, I believe I sent her a message."
Yes, the message is 'I'm a boob.' Proper tip etiquette is to leave nothing if the service was poor. Period. Not leaving a tip is touristy? Since when??? If you get poor restaurant service leave nothing, that's message enough.
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Why on earth did you leave her a tip at all?
If you don't leave a tip, the waitress might think you forgot, or maybe that you left cash on the table for her and someone else swiped it. Leaving a tiny tip says, "yes, I remembered - you just don't deserve more than this."
I'm a great tipper, to the point that the wait staff at a certain local restaurant argues about who gets my wife and me. I've seen a fist-pump and "YES!" when the winner didn't know we were watching. I'm willing and ready to leave a $0.04 tip when appropriate, though.
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Tipping in restaurants is traditional in America to the point where waitstaff actually make a significant portion (even the majority) of their income from the tips. The minimum wage for waitstaff who get tips in the US is set significantly lower than the minimum wage for the rest of the working population.
Leaving a very tiny tip (a penny is more traditional than a dollar) shows that you didn't forget about the tip, but you put some thought into choosing an amount that really expressed your feelings on the
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People have pointed out how the minimum wage is especially low for tippable employees. Well, there's also the fact that it's not just the server. The cooks, bartender, and house might all get a cut of the tip. Depending on the exact splitting rules, a person can actually make negative money to wait on your table if you're stingy like that.
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That's about $2 too much.
You're not obliged to pay what they put on the bill - the bill is just a starting point for negotiation with the business. As long as you don't *leave* until the negotiation has come to a mutually acceptable end.
The manager is quite likely to accept the $89 offered - he really doesn't want to be negotiating with a clearly disgruntled customer in front of all the other customers.
What happens to the waitress is her lookout. If for some reason you feel guilty,
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Paying short and getting my waitress sacked for "stealing" is pretty low.
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Paying short doesn't get the waitress fired for stealing, it comes out of their paycheck. So, when people do a Chew&Screw for 60 bucks, you basically stole 60 bucks from the waitress, not the restaurant.
Least, thats the way it works in Canada.
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Paying short and getting my waitress sacked for "stealing" is pretty low.
That's not what GP was suggesting. See this:
As long as you don't *leave* until the negotiation has come to a mutually acceptable end.
In other words, he was suggesting that you complain and say you didn't get acceptable service, and therefore you think you shouldn't have to pay full price... and if the manager has to get involved, so be it.
I've eaten at restaurants a few times where I've had things go really wrong, but waitstaff or managers make up for it. For example, once I was having drinks with some people, and it turned into dinner. We all started ordering stuff, but for some reason th
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No, that's exactly what the GP was suggesting:
"What happens to the waitress is her lookout. If for some reason you feel guilty, you can always donate the missing dollar to the business so that there are no ground for her to get the sack that night."
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No, that's exactly what you're reading into what I wrote, not what I was meaning.
I was, of course, assuming that you were writing the value of the "tip" into the space for it on the bill, which is the norm here. Whether it's the norm in your country, and whether your tax authorities allow the waitresses (tipped staff in general) so much leeway to dodge tax, I don't know. Different taxmen, different regulations.
So, what the waitress puts in the till is (in prec
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Making somebody pay for the honour of serving you is dickish, even if they did a poor job. It's not "her lookout" anymore if you're deliberately taking from her to prove your point. If you pull a stunt like this, you better have been physically hurt by the server.
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Ignorant plebs. That's what they get for not ordering in Japanese, or better yet, Klingon.
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But I will take my licks. I am a cheap dick for letting the waitress know what I thought of her service by using the instrument of payment (ie tipping), which is designed to illicit quality service, in a way that let her know just how valuable I thought her service was. Am I getting your point correctly?
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*elicit*. Illicit means something different and is ironically apropos.
You're a cheap dick for the part where you waited to watch her face as you passive-aggressively punished her. And probably the waitress and management will write you off as a cheap dick for a stunt like that, rather than effect real change.
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I thought we already established that I am cheap dick, that you should always tip 15% and then go cry directly to the manager like a whiny little bitch. Or, maybe I should of left the dollar and ran out the door with my tail between my legs because I didn't have the conviction to stand behind my actions.
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Were you Cheap? Not IMO. Poor service gets a small tip. Were you a jerk about it? Somewhat.
If you really wanted to effect change in restaurant service, you would have left an itemized list of the things which the server handled poorly. Sometimes things like kitchen mishaps affect the timely arrival of your food (though in your case, I don't see how that could have been the case)
If the server is new, they might not know specifically what they need to improve. In any case, a list of Poor Service examples he
At least in Japan, you don't have to tip (Score:1)
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Pay a little more per plate, have a better experie (Score:1)