Over a Third of the Internet Is Pornographic 247
Th'Inquisitor writes "Pornography makes up 37% of the total number of web pages online, according to a new study published by Optenet, a SaaS provider. According to the report, which looked at a representative sample of around four million extracted URLs, adult content on the Internet increased by 17% in the first quarter of 2010, as compared to the same period in 2009."
Thats more porn... (Score:5, Funny)
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I'm sure somebody has tried to get a grip on it.
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A third? A THIRD? (Score:3, Funny)
We... we've got to make more porn! Right now, there's a 2/3 chance I won't see porn when surfing! This is CRITICAL!
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Oh I've tried, but it blew my mind.
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It's time for me to take matters into my own hands.
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I'm trying to think of a pun to keep this going, but it's just too hard.
Just keep working at it, I'm sure something will come...
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Re:Thats more porn... (Score:5, Interesting)
You really have to wonder though, if that market can be oversaturated. After all, porn changes the least over time so if there's already 100GB+ or 1TB+ of whatever fetish rocks your boat on the market, how much room is there for yet another standard flick with quite "standard" girls - for porn anyways?
I guess there'll always be the Jenna Jamesons but most of that market I think will disappear. At least here in Norway the two major production companies have folded, there's just not enough money in it. Porn is definitively a race to the bottom (pun intended).
Re:Thats more porn... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Thats more porn... (Score:5, Funny)
Regrettably, it’s true. Standards have fallen in adult entertainment. It’s video, Dude. Now that we’re competing with the amateurs, we can’t afford to invest that little extra in story, production value, feeling.
Of course, you do get the good with the bad. The new technology permits us to do exciting things with interactive erotic software. Wave of the future, Dude. 100% electronic.
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I just wish they wouldn't try to outdo each other by making porn more extreme and less erotic in the process. Please stop the gross spitting and choking that seems to have taken over. That is about as sexy as a day at Gitmo.
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The first company to come out with fully interactive, fully immersive tactile VR body suits will have a CEO with wealth that rivals Bill Gates and Warren Buffet. Get on it!
No, the first company that makes a fully VR body suit that can clean itself will have that money. Would you really want to clean that suit out yourself every time?
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I guess so and yes, I really should rein in my snark in this respect =]. After all, if someone's making a film, they have the right to (a priori at least) assume they have created art. It's just that I doubt very much whether that sort of art would have many patrons (for the art's sake). Which means that there won't be anyone to protect that art form if, no ... when it does start dying out due to the homebrew/amateur stuff, which satisfies the consumers' main need (the need that drives them to porn in the f
Re:Thats more porn... (Score:5, Interesting)
Art is certainly rare in porn, but it's pretty rare in commercial television as well - perhaps the real question is, is it getting rarer? Satire and Parody tend to count as artistic values. I don't know if there's anything like parodies coming out nowdays, but back during the 70's - 80s, there were. Many films had titles such as '8 to 4' (parodying '9 to 5'), or Flesh Gordon (which ended up being distributed as nonporn or at least softcore, because the funny parts were, well, funny enough to stand on their own.) You could just about bet there would be a porno version of some films, because you could see how some of the parts that could easily be parodied would be sexual humor.
As for "minor", for some people, everything short of Shakespeare or at least Beckett is minor. Tons of directors could aspire to make the great XXX commentary on the human condition, and it's quite possible not one of them would hit such a high mark. Devil in Miss Jones definitely aspired to say something about religious repression of natural human desires, but did it actually say anything at all important? I doubt anyone in the porn industry today is even aiming that high, but I doubt that people in the TV industry get as much freedom and/or resource commitment when they try to break out of cliche land as they once did. Maybe porn is facing the same problem as video media in general, more than something unique to porn.
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People "buy" porn? When did they start doing that again?
Porn is free for those who look, and has been for the better part of the last decade. It's so prevailant that it's difficult to avoid. The market is, for all intents and purposes, "saturated".
Porn is not like books, because books cost money to produce and can be sold for only so much. There are publisher controls on how many get printed each year, and so on, so as to not overwhelm customers and create a glut of supply.
Will the amount of porn go down? G
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That depends very much what you mean by "good", which is why (I'm guessing) you put it in quotes. "Amateur" is an entire fetish of its own anyhow -- one which people pay for, oddly enough.
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You can apply virtually the same arguments to books, films and music. The point here is that as the world and culture changes, the products in that culture must also change in order to stay accepted and contem
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It is really in your face.
How stupid. (Score:5, Interesting)
FTFA... Web sites that contain violence have grown by 10.8 per cent, terrorism content by 8.5 per cent, and illegal drugs purchase by 6.8 per cent, and are continuing to grow, according to to the study, although it failed to define what it means by these terms.
So a gaming site mentioning GTA4 could be counted as violence, drugs & porn.
Rotta reckons, "There is a growing trend for online role-playing games to encourage negative behaviour, by rewarding violent and brutal activities within the online games."
Yes because Crocheting & Knitting RPGs would sell so well.
Internet shopping pages have increased by nine per cent this year, but Rotta managed not to find this worrying. What might kids be buying? Has she thought of that?
She finds shopping sites worrying? Dont most of them still require a credit card for payment?
according to a new study published by Optenet, a SaaS provider which delivers "on-premise" security.
So they will sell you software to protect you from teh interwebs?
Now I just need software to protect me from bullshit slashvertisments posing as articles.
Re:How stupid. (Score:5, Funny)
>Yes because Crocheting & Knitting RPGs would sell so well.
There is one!!! ZOMG!!1! Gimme the link! At last I can use my +3 Knitting Needles Of Purling!
What's the story like? I'll bet that RPG spins quite a yarn!
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Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH8bcIdlhQw [youtube.com]
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So a gaming site mentioning GTA4 could be counted as violence, drugs & porn.
Yes. It could.
That game is violent, glorifies drugs, and treats women as prostitutes fit only to be murdered and robbed.
You may not need "protecting" from that, but your apparent attitude that it is not what it is could be a result of your having been propagandized by it.
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It simulates violence, and those aren’t really women, they’re bits and bytes.
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So prototype desensitizes me to jumping off the tops of buildings and gliding to the next one?
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When I graduated from, oh, kindergarten or so, I acquired this amazing capability... to differentiate between what’s real and what’s make-believe. Maybe you haven’t?
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It treats the prostitutes as prostitutes, who -can- be murdered, robbed, or slept with, because freedom is the entire theme of the game.
It treats random woemn on the street as random women on the street. You can murder and rob them if you want to, but there's no unique incentive for it. They dress nicely. They talk to each other about their likes and dislikes. They have places to go. They dress differently in different areas. It's a rich, complex, and -satirical- simulation of a large city.
The
Re:How stupid. (Score:5, Funny)
Yes because Crocheting & Knitting RPGs would sell so well.
Bitches don't know about my cross-stitch porn.
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BMO
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Rotta reckons, "There is a growing trend for online role-playing games to encourage negative behaviour, by rewarding violent and brutal activities within the online games."
Yes because Crocheting & Knitting RPGs would sell so well.
Have you never heard of Farmville? I'd say that with the right positioning, a virtual knitting game might be - well - no less unlikely than a virtual farming one.
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Yes because Crocheting & Knitting RPGs would sell so well.
Grandma Theft Auto?
37%? (Score:5, Funny)
I clearly need to spend more time surfing the web.
Rule 34 (Score:2, Interesting)
Applying Rule 34 in reverse, one could say that all of the internet is pornographic. I mean, there's got to be someone who gets off reading papers on arXiv, right?
Correction: 37% is NUDITY (Score:5, Insightful)
A lot of sites are nothing more than naked bodies. I'd estimate only about ~20% are actual porn (sex).
I wish people would stop confusing the two, because they are not the same.
Re:Correction: 37% is NUDITY (Score:5, Funny)
I'd estimate only about ~20% are actual porn (sex).
You also have to remember the difference between porn and erotica, the differences being of course the lighting.
Re:Correction: 37% is NUDITY (Score:5, Funny)
I thought that porn is naked, whereas erotica is nude.
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>>>porn and erotica
I don't see any difference. If there's a real or fake dick being inserted in a hole, or a pussy being licked, then it's sex and qualifies as "porn" for me. i.e. Not something I'd show children under age 13.
On the other hand nudity is just that - a body without clothes. Lots of cultures think nudity is acceptable, and a photo of that nudity is not "porn" (or evil as some Puritan-americans claim). I don't care if my kid sees it.
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The lighting...and the focal length on the camera. If you use a macro lens it's porn. If you use a wide angle lens it's erotica. A zoom lens can be either.
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Actually, from what little I've seen it seems that some pornographers have taken to using "fisheye" lenses for their porn, and making sure to keep things that are supposed to seem big in the right spot (to take advantage of the distortion caused by fisheye lenses).
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thanks for defining pornography for the world~
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Re:Correction: 37% is NUDITY (Score:5, Insightful)
What difference does it make anyway?
Personally as long as i find the content i need, i don't care what else is there.
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Jon Stewart's "America" notes that Justice Potter Stewart said "I shall not today attempt further to define... [hard-core pornography];. But I know it when I see it..." Later, he settled on the more descriptive "That which gives me wood."*
So I guess we'd have to dig up Potter Stewart to decide if your definition is right or wrong.
* pretty sure JS made that last part up though.
Re:Correction: 37% is NUDITY (Score:4, Informative)
Pornography is not exclusively depictions of sex. From a big-boy dictionary:
"1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement"
Pornography is any iamge that is intended to arouse sexual desire in someone. Depiction of a sexual act is not required. In fact the image doesn't even need nudity. For example, a website showing pictures of little girls in their undies, published for the intention of arousing the audience, would be pornography.
Unfortunately 90% of them are TGP driver sites (Score:3, Interesting)
Always frustrating to see them littering all over the place.
Glad for the RPG mention though. Good to know I'm part of what's corrupting America.
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That's All? (Score:2)
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Was I the only one surprised at how low 37% seems?
Lower still when you consider your mom accounts for half of that (or two-thirds by mass...)
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Nope. At least 66% of my thoughts are pornographic. I'm a little disturbed that I'm raunchier than the internet.
I'm glad we have this new technology.. (Score:5, Funny)
FOR PORN!
Ooops, sorry..
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Wait... (Score:4, Interesting)
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Not so much anymore: http://xkcd.com/751/ [xkcd.com]
An brand new algorithm to classify terrorism? (Score:2)
Web sites that contain violence have grown by 10.8 per cent, terrorism content by 8.5 per cent,
Let me guess, they just classified every web-page containing Arabic characters to be "terrorism content", didn't they?
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yep, those pesky Arab Numerals.
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Amusingly enough, Arabic numerals (0123456789) aren’t used in Arabic-language writing. These [wikipedia.org] are.
Slightly offtopic, I realise, but what on Idle isn’t?
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Agreed. "terrorism content" is such a broad term. I wonder if, for instance, an exiled North Korean citizen blogging about the overthrow of the North Korean Government would fall into "terrorism content"?
But it does make good "frighten the masses" material. I suspect some politician will be citing "a recent study". Complete with unorthodox rounding....
"40% of the internet is porn and 10% is linked to terrorism!!!!!! We need to control this!!!!!"
And later in the campaign...
"Half! I'll repeat. Half of the int
Dr Cox quote (Scrubs) (Score:5, Funny)
no content (Score:4, Insightful)
And what if the random trivia is true? What if half the internet is for adults? Aren't half the people in the world adults? Why should they not have a representative portion of the internet? So we have to sanitize the world for the developmentally challenged that have never seen a real vagina or penis.
And then, what is pornographic? If I write a story with a plot and gratuitous sex scene is that pornographic? We want definitions.
This is just a useless piece of fluff intended to make people who aren't getting laid mess in their pants. Oh, think of the kids. Oh, Oh, the kids. We have to protect, the Oh, kids.
We already know that 99.99999% of the interent has no useful content. Yahoo is evidently becoming the ultimate porn site by advertising it is the place of entertainment news. Pretty soon the only safe place to be will be /. Even XKCD can't be trusted. Fuck.
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fap fap fap ... yes, go on...
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That little? (Score:2)
I'm both surprised and feeling more hope for humanity.
"child protection projects at Optenet" (Score:4, Insightful)
"Ana Luisa Rotta, director of child protection projects at Optenet"
So they have a commercial interest in this topic and to make things even worse, they claim to be "child protection"... those are the worst. I don't trust this study or them at all.
Let me fix that summary for you (Score:3, Insightful)
When someone tries to sell you software to protect you from the evil porn that you might accidentally see on the internet, I'm not sure I'm gonna believe their claims of how much porn there is.
Te distinction should be made: (Score:2, Insightful)
That may be true, but... (Score:2)
That seems a little low (Score:2)
*Only* 37%?
More than that according to Joyce (Score:5, Interesting)
James Joyce defined pornographic art as art created with the intention of inspiring desire to possess the object. By this definition, advertising art is pornographic [starvingartistguide.com], and there's no shortage of that on the web! Perhaps a third of the content on the web isn't pornographic.
Who cares about #'s we need solutions (Score:2, Informative)
Awesome. (Score:4, Informative)
Awesome, that means we only have 2/3rds left to go!
What about traffic? (Score:5, Interesting)
The interesting question, if you ask me, is how much traffic is devoted to porn. This is the result of a survey of four million URLs, but I could set up thousands of sites about pomegranates if I wanted, and it wouldn't have much to do with interest in pomegranates. (Don't ask why pomegranates. I just thought a pomegranate sounded good right now. Too much darn work though.) I suppose in large volume the quantity correlates with the size of the industry, but that still doesn't take into account the number of sites required to meet the needs of the people. Other people, that is, am I right?
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exactly... looks like manipulating the parameters of the test to get the desired dramatic outcome. pages and even sites are really cheap to put up, getting used is much harder.
Bandwidth used or percentage of total ecommerce would be a more meaningful statistic.
At first I thought, "no way" (Score:2, Insightful)
At first I thought, "no way", but then I considered that they were saying web pages, not web domains. No doubt, any single porn website might have thousands of individual pages, whereas most websites only have a few dozen. So yeah, I could see 37%.
Netcraft (Score:2)
But.. (Score:2)
MUCH of this porn is being made by pretty good looking women with utterly no self respect and clearly no standards insofar as that goes.
My question is then: why don't I *ever* sit next to them on the plane/bus/park bench?
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You probably do and haven't realized it. Having worked IT in law enforcement, I can attest that you CANNOT judge a person's sex life by their appearance. That sweet girl on the plane or straight laced guy could be into some freaky stuff and you would never know.
Not being snide, but what instances in your law enforcement IT experience point to that conclusion? Just looking for the scandal, humor, etc...Could you enlighten us with the correlation for the purpose of comedy and more jokes against the state (TM)?
Need better FILTERS (Score:2)
This statistic really underlines the need for better filtering software. If 1/3 of the internet is porn, that is fully 2/3 of most people's time that is wasted on news, technology, sports statistics and the like. We really need a reliable filtering algorithm that will allow us to filter out that useless 2/3rds.
At least it's something (Score:2, Funny)
Jaws quote... (Score:2)
How would you like your official newsflash? (Score:2, Funny)
World of Warcraft style?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo [youtube.com]
or
Sesame Street style?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNARJPNz2CA&feature=related [youtube.com]
representative sample of URLs (Score:2, Interesting)
What is a representative sample of URLs? Due to dynamic content, the internet has an infinite number of URLs so surely the percentages you come up with are all about the methods you use to obtain the URLs. If you include enough precision in decimal degree of latitude and longitude, there's probably more of the internet just in google maps than in porn.
Martin Rimm? (Score:2)
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Want to bet?
Re:New controversy: Google leading porn industry. (Score:5, Informative)
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It will probably be increases of 10.8%, 8.5% and 6.8% compared to the previous proportion, not the current entire Internet.
So if violence grew by 10.8%, but the previous proportion was 4.4%, you jump to about 4.9%.
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URLs are horrible indication. Dynamically generating endless amounts of slightly different (or hell, the same) porn spam pages has been very easy ever since CGI was intorduced.
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37%? What does that tell you about the average marriage?
That it's a lot hotter than the average marriage used to be. If the slice of that 37% that I've seen is any indication, that is.