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Superheroes vs. the Westboro Baptist Church 631

sv_libertarian writes "They've faced down humans time and time again, but Fred Phelps and his minions from the Westboro Baptist Church were not ready for the cosplay action that awaited them at Comic-Con. After all, who can win against a counter-protest that includes robots, magical anime girls, Trekkies, Jedi, and... kittens?"
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Superheroes vs. the Westboro Baptist Church

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  • Worthless summary (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Culture20 ( 968837 ) on Saturday July 24, 2010 @10:03PM (#33018184)
    I had to actually RTFA. *angry face*
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Mashiki ( 184564 )

      I saw kdawson and just ignored the entire thing...up until I saw your comment. Then I just *had* to say something...but I forgot what.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Really? How so? OK, I actually saw this on Pharyngula earlier already, so I knew what it was about, but the summary did mention:

      1) Fred Phelps (we all know who he is, right? The "GOD HATES FAGS" guy who will picket the funerals of fallen soldiers and all that.)
      2) Counter-protests.
      3) Specifically, counter-protests that included cosplay, at Comic-Con.

      Yeah, you don't get all the details in TFA from TFS, but it's not actually a bad summary as far as the basics are concerned.

  • Heh (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Dyinobal ( 1427207 ) on Saturday July 24, 2010 @10:04PM (#33018190)
    I rather liked the guy dressed as bender with a sign that said kill all humans. Honestly people should get together and do stuff like this more often it makes for some rather amusing pictures. perhaps even the people who are serious protesters will realize how crazy out their they are.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 24, 2010 @10:06PM (#33018198)

    I think there may be hope for the middle east.

  • by Trepidity ( 597 ) <delirium-slashdot.hackish@org> on Saturday July 24, 2010 @10:14PM (#33018244)

    Satirical counterprotests of Fred Phelps are getting a bit boring, aren't they? That's basically what everyone [] does these [] days when they show up [].

    • by AlecC ( 512609 ) <> on Sunday July 25, 2010 @05:43AM (#33019770)

      So what? Freedom needs to be continually fought for; if you ignore Phelps and give him no opposition, his viewpoint will gradually become more and more accepted; people will think him "normal" even if they don't agree with him. And good humoured satire seems to me the very best way to deal with him. Amusing, photogenic to spread the word, and non-confrontational. Freedom of speed (correctly) allows him to express his loathsome opinions - it should be used to provide the counterbalance.

      I particularly liked "Odin is God - read The Mighty Thor #5". It beautifully encapsulates the curcularity of the bible bashers arguments.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Vellmont ( 569020 )

        So what? Freedom needs to be continually fought for; if you ignore Phelps and give him no opposition

        The source of the problem isn't really that there's people like Phelps, and nobody is opposing them. It's that guy and his utterly minuscule congregation get any media attention at all. There's a million people out their that are batshit insane and worry about the orbital mind control lasers that nobody pays attention to. But yet this guy and his handful of followers gets paid attention to. Why?

        If we coul

    • Laughter shall destroy the tyrant.
      - old jungle saying

      extra credit for guessing the source =)
    • Satirical counterprotests of Fred Phelps are getting a bit boring, aren't they?

      They're orders of magnitude more entertaining than continually being confronted by idiots holding signs saying "god hates fags". Yeah? Well, God is dead, and the fags are still here. Long live advertising!

    • Fred Phelps and the crazy guy from Poltergeist II. []

      Coincidence? I think not!

      But not all the counter protesters are satirical. God really does hate the new Facebook.
  • by Sr. Zezinho ( 16813 ) on Sunday July 25, 2010 @05:41AM (#33019762) Homepage Journal

    I don't understand Americans. Why don't you just beat them up?

    • Trolling is encouraged by the US legal system:

      A trolls B

      B hits A

      A sues B for one million dollars.

      • You mean:

        A trolls B
        B sues A for libel/slander/defamation


        A trolls B
        B sues A for trademark/copyright infringement
        • Well good but up the page []:

          The father of a Marine whose funeral was picketed by the Westboro Baptist Church says an order to pay the protesters’ legal costs in a civil claim is nothing less than a “slap in the face.”

      • Trolling is encouraged by the US legal system:

        A trolls B

        B hits A

        A sues B for one million dollars.

        I could say that that is the problem with the US... however, I won't. Not in this case at least. The problem with the US in this case is that your police and court are too scared to deal with the idiots int he first place, since it's a "religion"... over here, the Westboro "Baptist Church" would have been labeled as a hate group, and been refused permission to demonstrate...

      • by CdBee ( 742846 )
        So kill them, and do it without witnesses
    • by hldn ( 1085833 )

      in america, we have this awesome thing where people are allowed to express their opinions whether you think they're batshit insane or not.

      i'd rather not have someone else decide which opinions are worthy of expression, as someday it may be my opinion that isn't popular.

      • by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

        This is allowed pretty much everywhere in the West, provided you're not purposefully overly offensive, or openly practising hate speech against someone.

        And forgive me for assuming that "god hates gays" etc is hate speech. I'm sure it's just an innocent opinion and has no intention of abusing your system in an obvious way to attract attention to an even more obvious attention whore.

        Really, where does free speech end and abuse of another person begin? The freedom is only good as long as you don't abuse it to

    • by mangu ( 126918 )

      Why don't you just beat them up?

      Because a system that allows people to freely express their opinions is less likely to spawn people who impose their own opinions [] on others.

  • Phelps is a hero! (Score:2, Informative)

    by WittyName ( 615844 )

    He is a retired lawyer, two of his kids are lawyers too. He has this wonderful way of tying the government in knots. For instance his clan/cult have a big house. This is a church. The swimming pool is a baptismal font. All income is tax free due to being a religion. IRS was not pleased, but he beat them.

    His views are totally wacko but playing the govt off against itself is just awesome.

  • This "church" consists of about two dozen members, and about half of those are Fred Phelps' family. Yet they get tremendous amounts of coverage, usually with a "dangerous new trend developing" tone to it.

    I should do the same - dream up some ridiculous position to advocate and then see if I can get CNN to cover it. Maybe I'll start a group demanding that gorillas get the right to vote, or that we execute illegal immigrants, or insisting that everyone adopt a strict fruitarian diet like this guy [].

    I bet I c

  • /me sighs. (Score:4, Informative)

    by antdude ( 79039 ) on Sunday July 25, 2010 @07:26AM (#33020146) Homepage Journal

    I am a Christian and I love superheroes. I know a lot of people who do too.
    In fact, my church's pastor talked about Superman and Spider-Man in his last Sunday's sermon! [] for the audio sermon recording.

  • by ElrondHubbard ( 13672 ) on Sunday July 25, 2010 @10:45AM (#33021030)
    Link #1:

    "Phelps does not believe what he is doing. This is a scam." If you believe this guy (and he makes some telling observations), Phelps is in the business of pushing people's buttons so he can sue them for violating his rights. That's his and his family's living.

    Link #2:

    Addicted to Hate: The Fred Phelps Story is an expos&#233; written by Jon Bell for the Topeka Capital-Journal that was suppressed by the paper because they were too chickenshit to take on Phelps. Bell sued the paper to either publish it or, if they refused, let him have the rights to his work, but he got neither. Instead, the full text was entered in the court record so it is now a public document that anyone can read whether Phelps likes it or not. So it's kinda long, but if you want a portrait of what a twisted gruesome mofo Phelps really is, here's your chance. I pity his children -- they never really had a chance.
  • Hilarious (Score:3, Funny)

    by John Pfeiffer ( 454131 ) on Sunday July 25, 2010 @07:54PM (#33024402) Homepage

    I still love the idea someone on Kotaku had when they saw the Team Fortress 2 spy cosplayer with the 'GOD HATES SENTRIES' sign: He should have been standing in the midst of the WBC crazies, with one of THEIR signs, wearing 'a moron mask'.

    The whole thing is just absolutely hilarious though. Good on them for mounting the counter-protest! Those WBC people are assholes.

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