Germans Increase Office Efficiency With "Cloud Ceiling" 223
Griller_GT writes "According to the top researchers of the Fraunhofer-Institut für Arbeitswirtschaft und Organization (IAO) in Stuttgart, the human mind is set up to work at its best under the open sky, with changing illumination caused by clouds passing overhead. The unvarying glare of office lighting is sub-optimal, therefore, and in order to wring the last ounce of efficiency from German workers whose productivity has already been pushed to unprecedented heights they have decided to rectify this with a LED cloud ceiling."
I approve! (Score:5, Insightful)
A lot of what injures productivity is boredom. Having a non-constant light source could definitely keep things more interesting, even when you don't particularly notice it.
Keep workers happy == keep workers productive.
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I want one so bad.
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A snow girl or a LED cloud ceiling?
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The snowgirl, for me, please. "You better be nice to me, or I'll get you a hair dryer for your birthday!"
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Re:I approve! (Score:5, Funny)
FTW,
when they see workers dozing off they should be able to initiate thunder and lightning. A bucket rain shower in an extreme case.
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Well , thunder and lightning 'outside the office' also helps . There's nothing like looking out the window at rain,wind and lightning, to remind you that office job really isn't so bad.
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Seriously. I wish my company would keep me happy and productive.
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So what you're saying is that the real reason my office building's super won't fix the wild swings from hot to cold throughout the day is that it actually improves productivity (not counting the time I spend complaining about the temperature)?
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Unfortunately the battery-farm style worker efficiency overheads still cost â1,000 per square metre, but the Fraunhofer boffins expect this to come down (presumably because they have installed early sets in the plant fabricating the tiles)
(By the way, that a with a hat before the 1000 is a Euro symbol in the article...)
Re:I approve! (Score:4, Insightful)
Keep workers happy == keep workers productive.
you do know that could evaluate to false as well right?
If they were American companies, they'd improve worker productivity every year for 30 years, pocket the money, reduce salaries in $$$ (while the government devalues the $$$$ themselves), and accuse the workers of being ingrates engaging in class warfare.
Oh, and I would think techies would be upset and disturbed by the unfamiliar environment provided by this big blue room simulator. Does it go black at night?
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Does it go black at night?
Alternately, does it make people on the night shift feel better if they're tricked into thinking it's daytime?
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Keep workers happy == keep workers productive.
you do know that could evaluate to false as well right?
If workers are productive, and they feel that they are ( they feel their work really amounts to something ) , they will in fact be much happier then if their works seems pointless.
I dunno. (Score:4, Interesting)
I may be at my best, coding in a Zeppelin, cruising silently above it all.
I'd certainly like to try it.
Re:I dunno. (Score:5, Funny)
I may be at my best, coding in a Zeppelin, cruising silently above it all.
So a LED Zeppelin then?
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Made me LOL, thanks!
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I'd prefer LCD-zeppelin.
that music really has a message; so, let it be seen!
Tequila and blowjobs... (Score:2)
...have also been shown to have, if not an improving, than at least not a decrementing effect on productivity. [youtube.com]
unprecedented heights of productivity (Score:5, Interesting)
Can we PLEASE stop with this hyperbolic "productivity" nonsense? If people were SO productive, what are they producing? Why does it take 25 years to pay a house that can be built in 6 weeks? Why are we still working 40 hour weeks? The average work week went from 100 to 50 hours in the 19th century, with 19th century technology!
What are we producing, why, and for who?
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Further, even if the GP wasn't an American, it is likely that "one-percenters" refers to the top one percent in his or her own nation's economy. I don't think anyone making $38k per year in San Francisco considers themselves significantly more well off than a B
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THIS
This is where all the productivity improvements have gone, why we're not working 2-3 days a week or any of that other utopian stuff futurists thought was coming. There have been productivity improvements, HUGE ones, it's just that it's all collecting at the top where we don't see any of it.
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True. After 1970, most of the productivity-gains in USA have *not* been passed on to the workers in the form of higher salaries and/or shorter work-years. Germany also hasn't done very well on that count for the last 10-15 years worker-compensation has been pretty much constant, while productivity has climbed substantially.
You're a democracy though. It's *know* what systems tend to concentrate wealth at the top, and what systems are better (not perfect) at making society as a whole benefit.
Have a look at Wi
Re:unprecedented heights of productivity (Score:5, Informative)
It's not fair to say that the house is built in six weeks. Yes, a house can be assembled from finished materials in six weeks, but you're not counting the effort to cut down the trees, transport them to a lumber mill, turn them into boards, mine the gypsum, turn it into drywall, mine the iron, convert the iron into steel wire, turn the steel wire into nails, refine oil into the raw plastic for pipes, mold the plastic into pipes and pipe fittings, transport all of these products all of the way from the factory to the building site, and on and on and on.
You can only build a house in six weeks because an army of people is busily creating all of these finished materials for you, and if you add up all of the labor, it probably does come to somewhere in the neighborhood of twenty man-years of work to create a house.
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Twenty man-years? No. If that was the case, the average person would have to spend 100% of their wages for 20 years in order to pay for the average house, before considering profit.
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When you're talking about a 25 years payment, don't forget the interest rates. I would say one third to half of the total money goes to interest rates.
The math isn't like this, you pay interest as you go, but considering the bulk values, I believe a house costs about 3 man-years to build, but you will pay that with 25% of what you earn for 12 years, and then another 12 years to pay interests.
If you think that's excessive, try paying rent until you can buy your house upfront.
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Can any of us guarantee that for 25 years we will have constant employment, at the same rate as we started, increases in pay growing with inflation? You can say "put half your pay in savings". So that still requires 12.5 years putting half your income into a savings or investment account. People get absolutely fucked that way too. My girlfriends 401k went from over $100k down to $12k. It's back up to $15k. 401k. Safe investment. It's your retirement nest egg. Well, until the stock
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Although I have no idea what company your girlfriend [insert /. meme about imaginary girlfriend here] works for, every 401(k) I've ever had offered very safe investments. It's hard to imagine a "safe" portfolio that dropped from $100K to $12K. Every one of them, for example, let me invest in some sort of money market f
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Until very recently (1980, perhaps?) people regularly only took out a 15 year mortgage on homes - you only bought what you could realistically afford. The concept of being in debt for a full third of your adult life (or more!) to pay off your home is a fairly recent phenomenon, and with 30 year mortgages, that number jumps to 50% in most cases. You're in even worse shape if you buy your home after you turn 20.
For most of humanity's existence, homes were built by the community using locally sourced m
Germans can build a house in about 1 week (Score:2)
Google & youtube Fertighaus
Most of it is machined.
Why is it that factory manufacturing computer chip makes them cheaper but when the same mass manufacturing techniques are applied housing which contains much lower embodied energy, it doesn't?
It's because pricing is based on market supply and demand, not on the the human labour or energy input of the materials. That's the marxist concept of economics.
Re:unprecedented heights of productivity (Score:4, Insightful)
> You can only build a house in six weeks because an army of people
> is busily creating all of these finished materials for you, and if you
> add up all of the labor, it probably does come to somewhere in the
> neighborhood of twenty man-years of work to create a house.
You're not really doing the math right. Yeah, it takes a lot of effort in one sense, but every step creates materials for thousands of houses. It's not like someone opened a gypsum mine to make enough drywall for one house. Aluminum gets mined, refined, formed into gutters, and painted... and then I buy it for a couple bucks per foot because they make (literally) tons of it.
If a house costs $100,000, and everyone who has a hand in it makes $10/hr, and there are no other costs (materials, transportation, etc.), even that would be just 10,000 person-hours, or 5 people working a standard work year. (2,000 hours -- fifty weeks x 40 hours/week.)
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Many people who can easily pay off their house in far less than 25 or 30 years choose not to. Sometimes this is due to tax policy (such as in the US, most mortgage interest is tax deductible). Sometimes this is due to investment considerations (if a credit worthy borrower gets a fixed 30 mortgage at current interest
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If people were SO productive, what are they producing?
Everything.
Why does it take 25 years to pay a house that can be built in 6 weeks?
Why are we still working 40 hour weeks? The average work week went from 100 to 50 hours in the 19th century, with 19th century technology!
Actually, we're working 45-hour weeks--the 40-hour work week went out when they stopped paying us for lunch and changed the start time from 9:00 to 8:00. It will get better when resources aren't scarce anymore.
What are we producing, why, and for who?
Are you on acid?
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Why does it take 25 years to pay a house that can be built in 6 weeks? zoning => limited offer
Why are we still working 40 hour weeks? Because we consume a lot more than people that worked 100 hour weeks 200 years ago.
What are we producing, why, and for who? We're producing mainly to allow other products to be produced: 200 years ago the production chain had 3-4 links at most, now it's a lot longer and most work goes in producing inputs for the production of other inputs for the production of other inputs
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These are office workers. Their main product is memos and TPS reports, and judging by how the production of these increases hyperbolically every year, I must protest your use of the word "nonsense".
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You need to catch up on Holmes on Homes so you can see why those 6 week houses take 25 years to pay off.
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"Why does it take 25 years to pay a house that can be built in 6 weeks?"
Because we've created a financial and political system dependent on infinite economic growth. Something has to keep going up in price... and people have to keep borrowing for it to function. Housing is pretty easy as you can just have zoning laws, boost immigration...
Funny enough, I was reading an article that in Toronto about an old man who was selling his home he bought in the early 1900s. It cost about 1x the annual income.
The 'ho
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It still does if you design the floor plan yourself and build a small house and limit yourself to the basics (carpet, not hardwood, let your builder build your cabinets instead of hiring out to a cabinet maker, use imitation counters instead of granite, no texture on the walls, etc. You can build a very nice, large house for three or four years sa
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Most houses take a bit more than 6 weeks to build, and you have to factor in that its not just a single person working for that long - its quite a few. If you're comparing to your single income then to get a comparable exchange you need to add them all up.
Now take into account that its a matter of finance and how much you actually want to put into the house at a time. If I count my total salary, I could afford to buy a house cash with 2 years salary.
Thing is, I can't afford to dedicate 100% of my income t
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A German house is typically not built in 6 weeks - make that 2 years or something. There is excavation, concrete and stones. No stick-frame buildings.
But if you want to build some modest wealth for yourself, consider building your own house. It's an option if you have some skills and are willing to learn and work hard until you are done with it. Particularly in Germany though: the ground you build on is a scarce resource, hence it's expensive. I don't think there is a way around that.
I agree on your gen
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Productivity comes out of capital, which is what one needs to increase productivity. Capital is what allows purchasing/building more/better tools, which makes a process cheaper/faster/increases quality.
So 100 men with shovels cannot be as productive as a man with an excavator, that's what productivity really means - 1 person doing work of 100 people because of all of the capital that went into the newer/better tools.
Capital comes out of savings (as opposed to the wrong idea that it comes out of the printin
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We are working 40 hours a week is because we can. Too much more we
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Can we PLEASE stop with this hyperbolic "productivity" nonsense? If people were SO productive, what are they producing? Why does it take 25 years to pay a house that can be built in 6 weeks? Why are we still working 40 hour weeks? The average work week went from 100 to 50 hours in the 19th century, with 19th century technology!
Look at the house example. Someone was saying that the average house has three man-years of effort (all done within 6 weeks, and representing far more than three man years of effort a century ago, productivity at work). So here, we have the ability to buy three man-years of effort and immediately use it. Sure, we can pay for this with a 25 year loan, but that's just another measure of productivity.
Second, there are a lot of people who don't want to work less. 60 hours seems to work better for the workaho
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if buildings were built like programs... (Score:2)
[*] assuming the typical slashdot population profile here, no personal slight intended.
Consistent? (Score:5, Insightful)
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You just change the content. A huge LED display on the ceiling can be used to view anything.
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Knowing the Germans, they would likely choose to work instead of watching porn.
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CEO is a genius! (Score:5, Funny)
His "researchers" also discovered that humans respond better when working at ambient temperatures and when exposed to the elements. They also like to be beaten with whips when they're insubordinate.
Improved efficiency has not been proven yet (Score:4, Informative)
... or even attempted to be proven, for that matter. From the article:
The Fraunhofer Institute's press statement doesn't give any actual concrete figures on improved worker productivity
According to the "study", if you can call it that with only ten volunteers, they merely chose that type of lighting with the other choices being "that, but less so", and "normal office lighting". No conclusive evidence of improved productivity (yet) as far as I can see, but it is pretty nifty - I'd like one of these installed in my office. Now if I could just convince my superiors of docking up that €1,000 per square meter...
They shouldn't stop at clouds (Score:2)
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Don't worry, that's coming... when the "new" factor of the clouds wears off and productivity goes back to normal. Eventually, they'll just start showing random epilepsy inducing colors.
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Remember that screen saver that had Opus the penguin shooting flying toasters with a shotgun?
That'd definitely perk up my work environment.
I live in the Seattle Area and I'm wondering... (Score:5, Funny)
What are the blue LEDs for?
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German CEO covering his ass (Score:3, Funny)
Where to buy?? (Score:2)
I checked the Fraunhofer website [fraunhofer.de] but I don't see any links to vendors. I think this must still be in the research stage. Does anyone know of a similar product on the market? (Or how to build your own?)
Hawthorne Effect (Score:4, Interesting)
Maybe I'd like these lights just fine, myself, but doesn't it seem like a repeat of the Hawthorne Effect [wikipedia.org]?
just give me a damn office (Score:4, Insightful)
Basement Upgrades (Score:2)
Wow, I would really like this in the basement where they keep me. I have no windows and am so far underground, there is no cell signal from any provider yet, my car (parked in the parking lot) has a beautiful view of the Pacific Ocean.
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I've got an ocean view out this window to my right here, the beach is just across the street actually.
Think you'd like to trade jobs? >:)
I wonder (Score:2)
Does look neat though, I'd like it. I'm building a room (studio) in my basement, I was actually considering - among other designs- of painting the ceiling like a blue sky with clouds. That'd be static though of course.
alternative (Score:5, Insightful)
Or, you know, they could just install windows. (lowercase w)
Not really about the clouds (Score:5, Interesting)
They are ignoring one fundamental principle of cubical life, anything new introduced into an office environment will increase productivity, as demonstrated on Better Off Ted.
They could have achieved the same results by replacing one black chair with a red one for a much more cost efficient solution. When the office productivity dips again, swap which person get the red chair. They will think its a performance incentive and everyone will be working hard vying for the coveted red chair.
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Skylight macht frei!
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First described by Asimov (Score:2)
Isaac Asimov's city-planet of Trantor had billions of people living their whole lives inside, with artificial meteorological variations in the levels of illumination.
Field Museum (Score:2)
Alternatives (Score:2)
So why not build workspaces that allow more natural light? What about places that naturally have mostly consistant sunlight? Not every locale has moving cloudcover all the time. And isn't it possible that if you were given control of some fancy new lighting system that you would choose rapidly-changing light levels more because it's new and novel? I'm betting we won't see data about the actual percentage improvement in productivity over a period of months with this thing.
To the Cloud! (Score:2)
Re:Awesome (Score:5, Interesting)
It's not about replicating sunlight. It's about making someone a metric fucktonne of money making LED simulated skies in ceiling panels.
According to the article, each tile is 288 LEDs. Excuse me while I do some math, so this will make sense in US dollars, and the size of a ceiling tile.
A standard office ceiling tile is 2'x4' (0.6mx1.2m).
The article shows a price of 1000 euros per square meter. (1 sq/m = 10.764 sq/ft).
92.90 euros per sq/ft, or $118.88 USD per sq/ft.
8 sq/ft per panel. or $951.04 per panel.
The density of the LEDs is pretty sparse. 36 LEDs per square foot, or 0.25 per square inch. So one LED per 4 square inches. That would explain why the room looks so dark, compared to the overcast day outside the window.
A modest size office space at 500 sq/ft room would cost roughly $60,000 to put this ceiling into. That's a lot of money to waste on ceiling tiles. It would have probably done very well during the dotcom bubble. Now, that's a lot of other equipment, or salaries for a few employees for a year.
They don't go into the cost of installation, nor MTBF of the equipment. If panels need to be changed yearly for whatever reason, that would get pretty damned expensive. The LEDs should live a long time, but who knows how long their control circuitry will survive.
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You could just buy TVs cheaper than that. Hook them up to a computer to control the displays, and you have the exact same thing, without any specialized hardware. Power usage would probably be quite a bit higher, but as price of TVs come down, the price of replacing the panels would get quite a bit cheaper. Mind you, at only $60,000, that's less than the cost of hiring one worker. If you get a measurable productvity increase out this, it might actually be cheaper to do this than to hire 1 new person.
Monitors sound like a good idea for a cheaper solution than these expensive panels, but If you want clouds to flow from monitor to monitor, you'll need a large "Video Wall" controller so you can paint a coherent sky picture with clouds that flow from monitor to monitor. And large controllers are not cheap (and probably don't scale well to cover an entire office ceiling).
You're probably going to be better off with a small computer driving each monitor that talks to its neighbor to carry the clouds over and d
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I wonder if it would be possible to do this with a series of projectors instead of LEDs or TVs. With enough vertical clearance you might need considerably less projectors to cover the same area, you might be able to utilize some kind of special lens to increase the projection area as well.
To solve the controller issue you could just set them all up as displays for a single computer and enable monitor spanning in the graphics settings.
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A "Video Wall" controller of this resolution is pretty much a Parallax Propeller attached to some serial network that slowly feeds the data to all of them. You could probably make it for $20 in small quantity, and the board with its male DB15 connector would plug directly into the PC input of the monitor.
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Excuse me while I do some math, so this will make sense in US dollars, and the size of a ceiling tile.
A standard office ceiling tile is 2'x4' (0.6mx1.2m).
The article shows a price of 1000 euros per square meter. (1 sq/m = 10.764 sq/ft).
92.90 euros per sq/ft, or $118.88 USD per sq/ft.
8 sq/ft per panel. or $951.04 per panel.
Why bother with the feet?
Cost 1000€/m^2
Tiles are 0.6m x 1.2m = 0.72m^2
0.72m^2 * 1000€/m^2 = €720 per tile, or $920 according to Google.
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Euros per square meter. But, that sounds like a formula for a black hole.
Europe = 9,938,000 sq/km
7,155,360,000 square kilometers compressed into 0.72 square meters. I assume that compression worked vertically on the same scale.. And they were worried about the LHC.
Damn real fake sky tile things. They'll be the end of us. The end of us all!
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In response to thought 1 - most office buildings are more than a single story. What about all of the stories below the top?
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Thought 1: Why not just make the roof out of (polarized/tinted) glass?
Ever enter a building with more than one floor?
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Would also be distracting as it fell in on your workers. An unprotected ( ie, glass ) roof isn't real practical.
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Perhaps if the lightbulb had been sky-colored, he would have made a more insightful comment.
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It's not good, Kriss Kross. I think it might even qualify as wiggity wiggity wiggity wack.
it's the Euros, stupid! (Score:2)
Even more productive Germans? My God...
Somebody has to carry the Greeks.
And Italians.
And Spanish.
And French.
And..
awwww, fuck it.
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I don't think you've been in very many office high-rises.