Kazakh Gold Medalist Is Played Borat Anthem 155
Wo-wo-wee-wah! It looks like the Kuwaiti officials at an international shooting event never got the memo that the film Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan wasn't an actual documentary. Gold medalist Maria Dmitrienko stood stoically while the offensive national anthem from the film was played during the awards ceremony. From the article: "Coach Anvar Yunusmetov told Kazakh news agency Tengrinews that the tournament's organizers had also got the Serbian national anthem wrong." Nice!
But are they...? (Score:4, Funny)
The anthem supposedly praises their prostitutes. The obvious question is, then: are they really that good? ;)
Re:But are they...? (Score:5, Funny)
My sister says she's worth every penny.
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Do you agree?
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Unfortunately he has a very small krum so he's inadequate at sexy time.
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Re:But are they...? (Score:5, Funny)
Wait...you mean, Kazakhstan DOESN'T have the region's cleanest prostitutes? Uh oh...(makes doctor's appointment)
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Many prostitutes are actually slaves and their lives are broken beyond their will. Comments like the one I respond to represent how the people whose wives, sisters or daughters would never be taken in this illegal-but-true slavery (thanks God!), yet these people (yes, I know you're not among them) are 'ok' with supporting the business possibly built on slavery. When one buys something, it doesn't mean it wasn't stolen. Think twice and stop promoting this, even in a joke.
I read this comment a couple times, but I don't quite understand your English. Are you saying other countries' prostitutes are better? What about cleanliness? The latter is, after all, what the song is about.
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It does happen in first world countries as well.
You haven't seen many things yet, doesn't mean they don't exist. [t-online.de]
I met a former slave once.
Re:But are they...? (Score:4, Informative)
I think it's entirely possible that this happens a lot more in Europe (which has relatively easily-crossed land borders with "third world hellholes") than the USA. I see articles about in in the news fairly regularly.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6459369.stm [bbc.co.uk]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14857004 [bbc.co.uk]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-14732841 [bbc.co.uk]
Double irony award? (Score:5, Informative)
Although being as the story was posted by the fail master himself samzenpus, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if a large part of the story (or the entire damned thing) turned out to be crap.
Re:Double irony award? (Score:5, Funny)
This was at an International shooting event. Making mistakes like this seems to be one of those 'this is not a particularly smart thing to do' moments.
Re:Double irony award? (Score:5, Funny)
An armed tournament is a polite tournament.
Re:Double irony award? (Score:5, Insightful)
And playing the wrong anthem is an exceedingly impolite thing to do.
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I think it was banned in kazahkstan not kuwait.
In any case surely there are official channels to request flags and anthems and other national symbols from...like the teams themselves...
One doesn't think one would need to be hitting the pirate bay for this stuff...
Re:Double irony award? (Score:5, Interesting)
In any case surely there are official channels to request flags and anthems and other national symbols from...
YEARS ago, Chile hosted the World Chess Championship. Players from Romania were *very* upset because the flag representing them still had the socialist coat of arms on it (the 1989 revolution had happened less than a year before). They threatened to leave unless steps were taken immediately to correct this... I guess it was solved to their satisfaction, because they didn't leave, though.
Re:Double irony award? (Score:4, Funny)
Alternative even worse joke: So they wanted to seize the means of representation?
Alternative alternative even worse joke: Maybe they didn't leave because someone was standing directly in front of them and there was no one they could capture standing on the diagonal.
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In a tennis competition in Australia, the Spanish Republica Himno de Riego [wikipedia.org] was played instead of the Royal March when the players got in the podium.
Anyway, except for the few bureaucrats who thought their work was to show the world how enraged all of the spaniards were, most people understood it was just an error and not a political statement and a few make a few jokes. That was all about it.
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At the Rugby World Cup in Wales in 1991, Australia were playing Samoa in a small stadium in some hell-hole in the Valleys. The local brass band duly trotted out 'Advance Australia Fair', but they obviously had trouble with their comms to the South Pacific as the Samoans got "Theme from Hawaii-Five-O"...
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I would think that just about everything Western (TM) would be banned in Kuwait. Except cars.
Desert Storm (Score:2)
I would think that just about everything Western (TM) would be banned in Kuwait.
Didn't the West (TM) come in and bail Kuwait out when Saddam's Iraqi forces invaded?
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I think it was banned in kazahkstan not kuwait.
The BBC article states it was banned both in Kuwait and Kazakhstan.
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The BBC is fairly careful about that sort of thing.
Re:Double irony award? (Score:5, Funny)
You might want to click on the link. Granted, the BBC is clearly a fly-by-night news operation with only a few reporters, no reputation to speak of and almost no history in journalism, but yeah...it's they who broke the story, not samzenpus.
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You might want to click on the link.
I did. And that is the only reason why I view the story as being the least bit credible, as samzenpus has a long proud history of bringing distortion and epic failure to the front page of slashdot.
However, even the BBC gets fooled on occasion. I trust them enough that I watch them for my morning news while I eat breakfast - however they are in the end still human and prone to human mistakes.
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However, even the BBC gets fooled on occasion. I trust them enough that I watch them for my morning news while I eat breakfast - however they are in the end still human and prone to human mistakes.
The BBC makes mistakes? Surely not! [youtu.be]
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Triple irony award: The BBC story has a picture of Borat (Cohen in character, that is) but not a picture of the athlete. Fucking beeb.
The national Anthem (Score:2)
Kazakhstan greatest country in the world.
All other countries are run by little girls.
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium.
Other countries have inferior potassium.
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The lyrics from this fine song:
Kazakhstan greatest country in the world.
All other countries are run by little girls.
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium.
Other countries have inferior potassium.
Kazakhstan home of Tinshein swimming pool.
Itâ(TM)s length thirty meter and width six meter.
Filtration system a marvel to behold.
It remove 80 percent of human solid waste.
Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Northern fence of Jewtown.
Kazakhstan friend of all except Uzbekistan.
They very nosey people with bone in their brain.
Kazakhstan industry best in world.
We invented toffee and trouser belt.
Kazakhstanâ(TM)s prostitutes cleanest in the region.
Except of course for Turkmenistanâ(TM)s.
Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Northern fence of Jewtown.
Come grasp the mighty penis of our leader.
From junction with the testes to tip of its face!
Oh this is precious!
The actual anthem (Score:5, Informative)
Starbucks! Disney World! Porno! Valium! (Score:5, Funny)
Imagine if America, Fuck Yeah! played for an American winning team at the Olympics? That'd be so awk... motherfucking awesome.
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I anticipate the Olympics one year to be anthem-trolled. No country will be introduced with their actual anthem. Many parody artists will need to begin work devising alternate anthems for countries that don't get Hollywood attention.
Re:Starbucks! Disney World! Porno! Valium! (Score:5, Funny)
It has already been mentioned that the tune is rather similar to the actual Kazakhstan anthem, but with "nonstandard" lyrics.
It might be especially fun if the anthem-trolling did the same, using the basic national-anthem medley, but with more "interesting" lyrings.
In the case of the US, I can hear a choir singing the well-known (among American school-kids) lyrics: "Oh, say, can you see / any bedbugs on me ...".
It'd be fun to make a collection of all the national anthems, with variant lyrics like this. It would, of course, be online, so various sporting events would likely find it and use it as their source. ;-)
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It'd be fun to make a collection of all the national anthems, with variant lyrics like this. It would, of course, be online, so various sporting events would likely find it and use it as their source. ;-)
Put in the public domain, post it as a Wikipedia article.
Sit back, grab popcorn.
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It has already been mentioned that the tune is rather similar to the actual Kazakhstan anthem, but with "nonstandard" lyrics.
It might be especially fun if the anthem-trolling did the same, using the basic national-anthem medley, but with more "interesting" lyrings.
In the case of the US, I can hear a choir singing the well-known (among American school-kids) lyrics: "Oh, say, can you see / any bedbugs on me ...".
While it lacks the juvenile fun of a crude mockery of the "Star Spangled Banner" lyrics, I think I would lean toward the anthem's built-in parody potential, the lyrics of "To Anacreon in Heaven", whose tune was used for the anthem. Though reaching that far back for trolling material means a lot of people won't necessarily even understand the joke...
Re:Starbucks! Disney World! Porno! Valium! (Score:4, Informative)
There's a rousing version of To Anacreon in Heaven at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqyQO3xhNx0 [youtube.com].
The melody is trivially different from the US national anthem, but quite recognizable. That page includes the lyrics, which might be a bit difficult for most people to follow otherwise.
It's actually not at all unusual for national anthems to be based on older songs, especially "folk" songs that everyone in the culture knows. One of my favorite examples is the Israeli anthem, which uses the melody of an old eastern-European Jewish song that is in turn based on one of the ur-melodies found all over Europe. With about half as many notes (and in major), we know it in English as Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star. ;-) But people in any European country can probably tell us their local name for it. In eastern areas, it tends to be in minor, as is the Israeli version. I know a nice Finnish shottish tune that's a minor-mode variant of the same melody.
Re: Star Spangled Banner is also another song (Score:2)
Hm, good point. Juvenile, crude mockery it is, then.
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The version I learned goes something like "Oh say can you see / any bedbugs on me? / If you do, take a few / 'cause I caught them from you." or slight variants on that. I did a quick google check for "Oh, say, can you see any bedbugs on me ...", and it said there are about 1590 matches right now.
But "Star-Spangled Banner parody" has over a million google hits, including a Snoop Dogg (apparently not actually by him). A quick glance shows parodies of all sorts. Some aren't true parodies, though, since
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Just yesterday, I heard the Blind Boys of Alabama's rendition of Amazing Grace, sung to the tune of House of the Rising Sun (though as I recall, that recombination was discovered by another singer, but I've forgotten who).
It works to the tune of the Eagles' Peaceful Easy Feeling too.
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Aux enfants de la tequilla, l'heure de boire est arrivée...
That's hilarious! Where are the rest of the lyrics? I tried googling it, and got no match.
(But I have heard a number of other good parodies of la Marseillaise. For some reason, at least half of them have to do with drinking. ;-)
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Most Americans wouldn't notice the difference.
"Oh, they must be starting on the second verse. I always forget how the other verses go..."
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Not Just A Kuwaiti Problem (Score:5, Informative)
Other countries have made similar error. For example, during the 1992 World Series.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/military-honor-guard-displays-the-canadian-flag-upside-down-news-photo/51549719 [gettyimages.com]
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Haha. Error. Right.
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It is hared to believe that the US Marine Corp could get something that simple wrong. On the other hand, it is hard to believe that the US Marine Corp would do that deliberately.
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Considering that the Canadian flag is the only one "in the wind".
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It was real, I'm from Toronto, and every Jays fan remembers that series.
I even remember Norm Macdonalds joke on SNL about it (he was doing weekend update) "It's a good thing this didn't happen to a country like Japan, who wouldn't tolerate such an insult".
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Its hard to believe you think that is real. Considering that the Canadian flag is the only one "in the wind".
Yeah, we tend to expect that photos are 'shopped these days. But there's also something a bit funny about the upper edge of the Canadian flag in that photo. It's like there's something along that edge that is keeping the flag in place. I've seen flags displayed like that, so they'll be spread out even when there's no wind.
Of course, that "funny" edge to the flag could also be faked by an expert in photo editing. It's hard to know what to believe, these days.
Re:Not Just A Kuwaiti Problem (Score:5, Informative)
I happened to be watching the world series on TV when that happened. No matter what you think, they put it on upside down. Interesting fact is that the flags they were using were the two-grommet variety where you pre-thread the rope with the toggle on one end through and attach THAT to the rope on the pole. What this means is that the people attaching and raising the flag aren't to blame -- someone threaded the rope upside down ahead of time (intentionally or not).
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It is hard to believe that the US Marine Corps could get something that simple wrong. On the other hand, it is hard to believe that the US Marine Corps would do that deliberately.
Maybe they were still holding a grudge over the Battle of Bladensburg and the burning of the White House?
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Look here. A 51st stater who thinks his country is actually sovereign. Hard to believe.
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Look here. A 51st stater who thinks his country is actually sovereign. Hard to believe.
Hey! Don't insult the Canadians. I really like their state quarter.
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In anticipation of Puerto Rico's upcoming vote, I think we've already slid Canada down to 52nd..
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Well, it's not like they can display the Japanese flag upside down
or the old Lybian flag
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Spain got upset [theage.com.au] during the Davis cup once. The national anthem from the 30s before Franco was played. Though I suspect if you'd made such a cock up in Barcelona, Catalunya there'd be bemusement and muffled applause. When I was there a few months ago, the republican flag replete with purple was visible among 'occupy' protesters.
No, we where not upset. Most of us understood that shit happens, that whoever was looking for the hymn just chose an outdated source, and that it was not a political statement from anybody. And that anyway none of us knew the Hymn of Australia, so it was a tie. Most that happened was some jokes and a little nostalgia from some people.
Of course, a couple of politics decided that they had to show off their "dedication to our country" by acting as if Australia was in the brink of declaring war against Spain, a
Re:Not Just A Kuwaiti Problem (Score:5, Interesting)
President Bush (the Elder) apologized for it, and when some Americans expressed displeasure for him having apologized he said:
All I'm saying is that if that had happened in Canada and we had seen the United States flag flown upside-down, every American would have been very, very upset.
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In general, Americans, from Big Bush down to the Marine Corp, and on down to the average Joe handled the Canadian flag incident very well at the time. It is amusing, though, that now some people are trying to pretend that it never happened.
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tour de france played the Danish nation anthem when Contador won in 2009
Well, they did play the Spanish anthem when Andy Schleck won in 2010...
Darn Internet Searchers (Score:1)
They probably said, "Crap! She won! Does Kazakhstan even have an anthem? Google it!"
Someone searched for "Kazakhstan anthem" and came up with this. I wonder if they found it on Britannica.
so we have copyright infringement? (Score:2)
It seems like someone willfully took the movie, recorded it, and used it.
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Or, they were in a rush, searched it on YouTube and downloaded the first result.
I'm embarrassed for the USA... (Score:2)
and it's not even our fault this time.
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Everything is the fault of the USA, if you just try hard enough.
For example, in this particular case, it's the fault of you guys that Kuwait even exists! ~
Then you need to do some introspection (Score:2)
If you get embarrassed for the US all the time by things not even related like this then the problem is not the US, it is you, and yo need examine why you have this problem.
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Were you born without a sense of humor or was it extracted later on?
Kazakh wine (Score:3, Insightful)
At least they didn't give them fermented horse piss as drinks.
Re:Kazakh wine (Score:5, Funny)
At least they didn't give them fermented horse piss as drinks.
What? Don't they have American beer there?
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Off topic? Their post is a Borat reference about Kazakhi wine.
Unbelievable. (Score:2)
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Honestly if I'm her I'd walked off the podium. Still... absolutely hilarious.
I would like to think my response would have been to stand to attention and salute, with my tounge visibly distorting my cheek. As it is, I think she starts looking a bit bewildered as it progresses, she's possibly sensing something is going on from the audience but is not sure what it is. There's also a good chance she doesn't speak english and since the two tunes are apparently quite similar may have thought it was just a very lame western-ised version of the real thing. Regardless of what was going on i
Unanswered question (Score:3)
The story is admittedly funny and awkward, but - why on earth is this story even on Slashdot?
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Because this is idle and samzenpus posts pretty much anything here?
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Haha (Score:2)
They should have known better to not let Borat's brother Bilo pick out the music.
I am underwhelmed by the original video (Score:1, Insightful)
The movie was so mediocre that it has been forgotten by most people, that explains no reaction from the part of the woman.
Besides, she is ethnically Russian and probably has no particular feeling for both fake or real anthem, or any other ridiculous cargo cult attributes of Kazakhstan.
By the way, Kazakhs are Muslims and music is prohibited in Islam.
I can't wait the moment when Mujahedeen will kick Nazarbaev's ass to London - the cloaka of Soviet and post-Soviet has beens.
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music is prohibited in Islam.
Citation needed.
Re:I am underwhelmed by the original video (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_351_400/is_music_prohibited_in_islam.htm [irfi.org] (Islamic Research Foundation International, Inc.)
"Conclusion: Music is not prohibited in Islam. Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran allowed music and inspired it upon David peace be upon him. Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him didn't prohibit music unless it was used for sinful activities. Otherwise, music is allowed."
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irfi is not authority or influential resource at all. Check out this:
http://islamqa.info/en/ref/5000/music [islamqa.info]
That covers vast amount of music played and almost all national anthems.
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unless it was used for sinful activities
Problem is, there are multiple and conflicting lists of "sinful activities" enforced by various sects.
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Besides, she is ethnically Russian and probably has no particular feeling for both fake or real anthem, or any other ridiculous cargo cult attributes of Kazakhstan.
She still managed not to crack up, which shows pretty good sportsmanship.
Just be glad the Germans didn't win a medal (Score:4, Funny)
I'm sure they had "Deutschland über alles" and the swastika flag prepared, too.
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Old joke:
Swiss guy: You know why the Austrian Flag is red-white-red?
Austrian: No?
Swiss guy: So you idiots can't hang it upside down.
Austrian: Ahhh... that explains the Swiss flag.
Good idea, eh? (Score:3)
Kazakh-stan, very funny (Score:2)
Kazakh's StAn, very funny,
and their prostitutes, very sweet,
but the penis of their poor leader,
is impossible to b-eat.
I thought Kuwait was rich? (Score:2)
You'd think the Kuwaitis could afford to license the appropriate music rather than snarfing it off the Internet.
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We are all rocket scientists [wikipedia.org]? Neat!
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